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Varsity [249]
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We are actually forfeiting this election to Hillary
Mar 9, 2016, 12:08 PM
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Or a socialist. Wow. I need a new party. The inmates are now running the asylum.
But I'm sure all the Trump voters blissfully nod their head every time Trump tells people he is beating Hillary in polls. Must be nice to be so detached from reality.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: We are actually forfeiting this election to Hillary
Mar 9, 2016, 12:10 PM
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I think you took a wrong turn at Albequerque.
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All-In [28802]
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Calm down
Mar 9, 2016, 12:15 PM
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35% of Republicans are voting for Trump. The majority of Republicans don't support Trump, and a very large number of them never would. As long as Trump doesn't get the majority of delegates, he'll lose in a brokered convention. Now, if Cruz ends up being the nominee, it's going to be more difficult to win in the general election. But he's a sharp guy who knows how to campaign.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Calm down
Mar 9, 2016, 12:19 PM
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Good lord you are insufferable. Brokered convention. Ha ha! That would be the end of the party.
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All-In [28802]
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So would a Trump nomination***
Mar 9, 2016, 12:23 PM
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Legend [15764]
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Why do you think so?
Mar 9, 2016, 12:24 PM
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The "end of the part" stuff, not the "You are insufferable" stuff.
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All-In [28802]
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Because he wants Trump to win
Mar 9, 2016, 1:21 PM
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So he doesn't want to acknowledge that brokered conventions are legitimate ways of nominating a candidate.
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Re: Calm down
Mar 9, 2016, 12:25 PM
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like it was in great shape before donald stepped on stage.
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Re: Calm down
Mar 9, 2016, 1:00 PM
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It was. Dominated state governments and the House was on lock until 2022. Even better, the Dems were forcing the most unpopular nominee in decades into the general election. Total gift for the GOP. Any competant candidate would have cleaned Hillary's plate and been able to load up the Supreme Court with conservatives for a generation.
But now, the morons have decided to nominate a guy with unfavorable numbers in the high 60's. And Hillary will get to elect 3 or 4 SC justices. The Senate too will be lost as the Trump will be horrible for down ballot races.
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It actually had a great opportunity
Mar 9, 2016, 1:23 PM
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It has the majority of governorships, the majority in both houses of Congress, and almost all of its candidates but one who led the Democratic front-runner in the general election. It should've been a great opportunity to have a unified government, but people who decided they'd rather lodge a protest may prevent that from happening.
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Re: Calm down
Mar 9, 2016, 12:57 PM
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Trump nominee is the end of the party. A brokered convention wouldn't hurt a thing. Trump voters won't be voting for Hillary anyway.
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A brokered convention would PO a lot of people
Mar 9, 2016, 1:26 PM
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I can see a lot of the blue-collar white people voting for Hillary, though. Trump does bring in a new segment of people to the Republican Party, but I don't think it's hugely significant.
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One would think the "hugely significant" group of people
Mar 9, 2016, 10:42 PM
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could get behind one candidate and get rid of Trump.
You know, because they are the majority.
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Re: Calm down
Mar 9, 2016, 12:56 PM
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It's too late dude. Tuesday is judgement day. If Trump wins Ohio and Florida he won't be stopped. Kasich and Rubio will drop out and Cruz is basically the only one who wouldn't beat Trump in 1 v 1. If you look at the states left to vote they are almost all states where Cruz is viewed worse than Trump. NY, NJ, PA, MD, Delaware, Washington, Oregon, California are states where somebody like Kasich or Rubio would do well but Cruz will do awful. This whole situation is really a terrible result of the order of the primaries. If the southern states weren't so front-loaded Cruz would have been out by now and Rubio or Kasich would have been able to dominate Trump head to head. Unfortunately, most voters are too dumb to understand the game theory and have now decided Cruz is the best threat to Trump. Which is just plain wrong.
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I have to disagree with you there
Mar 9, 2016, 1:20 PM
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I think Cruz has a very good chance of beating Trump one on one, but I also don't think it's a foregone conclusion that Kasich and Rubio drop out. Kasich already has no chance at the nomination through the popular vote, so his play is almost certain to stay in until the convention and then to try to play kingmaker. I do think Kasich wins Ohio. Rubio will probably do the same thing, even if he doesn't win Florida. Winning Florida is going to be tougher for Rubio, since Cruz, et al. are trying to knock him out, but stranger things have happened (see Romney closing the gap with Gingrich in a week in FL, or last night's Sanders win in MI when Hillary was leading by 20 in the polls).
You seem to be missing what I'm saying about a brokered convention, though. If Trump all the candidates stay in, they can eat up those delegates in the states you mentioned (plus maybe winning Ohio and/or Florida) and keep Trump from getting a majority. They can then "broker" the delegates at the convention, adding them up to give either Cruz, Rubio, or Kasich more delegates than Trump. So there's not really any "too late" about it, unless you're talking about one of the candidates winning the popular election. In that case, it might be too late, even though a majority of Republicans would be opposing Trump.
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Forfeit?
Mar 9, 2016, 12:34 PM
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Sec. Clinton will win the election, no matter what the Reps. put up. You are correct about the Trump supporters, though.
Go winning Tigers, win with what you got, not by forfeiture.
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Varsity [249]
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Re: Forfeit?
Mar 9, 2016, 1:01 PM
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Wrong. Hillary is terrible unpopular and will barely beat a socialist in her own primary. Any legitimate candidate would have beat her. Kasich, Rubio, Ryan, Romney, Bush, etc.
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Legend [18310]
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Evidently you are doing the thinking for 3 people,
Mar 9, 2016, 3:26 PM
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Larry, Moe, and Curly.
Go sensible Tigers, think rationally.
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Rock Defender [54]
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If a brokered convention is pulled off, the common voter
Mar 9, 2016, 3:28 PM
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will get shafted and the establishment, which is small, will have to deal with a ton of backlash. Trump will be the nominee and if he isnt after winning Florida, then the entire system is broken. And that would be the same it if was Cruz or anyone else.
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Orange Blooded [2592]
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You can still forfeit when there's a foregone conclusion
Mar 9, 2016, 1:26 PM
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If my high school team played the warriors, the warriors would certainly win. That doesn't mean the high school team wouldn't give up...
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110%er [7109]
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Same way we got two terms of President Obama
Mar 9, 2016, 12:35 PM
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Just the other side of grossly uninformed low information voters.
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