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Oculus Spirit [98351]
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OutdoorLightElectricSocketInMasonry.Net question
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Apr 28, 2024, 6:18 PM
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Sorry Pic is crooked. Son of threw open the dumpster lid and broke the light. These round plastic fixture boxes suck and they get brittle. Must have been a bad batch from China back in 2011, who knows. I've replaced like 8 of these inside where the electrical box has to be replaced in sheetrock.
This is masonry however and the plastic piece of crap has to be replaced. Do they make a deeper socket to go behind masonry like the ones I've used with plaster b4?
Trying to avoid an electrician. Tia
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Lot o points [182463]
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I have an old led porch light on back porh that won't
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Apr 28, 2024, 6:20 PM
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light up anymore, and it's not a bulb to replace. I just don't use it anymore. Not worth the time or energy.
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Ive got a spare motion sensor one that Ill give you
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Apr 28, 2024, 8:24 PM
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Take 15 minute to put up
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Lot o points [182463]
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I really don't eff with electricity.***
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Apr 28, 2024, 8:28 PM
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Oculus Spirit [98351]
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I'm ok with most of it. I do have issues pulling wire and with fuse boxes
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Apr 28, 2024, 8:39 PM
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But basically all outlets, GFCI, switches, light fixtures, ceiling fans, etc I'm ok with. The double pole switches can get confusing, but not too bad once you figure them out.
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Lot o points [182463]
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Yeah, i put all that behind me.***
Apr 28, 2024, 8:52 PM
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Heisman Winner [138319]
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I just flip the switch off
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Apr 28, 2024, 10:20 PM
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Take down old light
Put up new light
Put milk in freezer
Turn switch on
Let there be light
Works the same for ceiling fans
Or you can hang a solar motion sensor light - no wires
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That worke fine as long as everything is wired properly. If not, you
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Apr 28, 2024, 10:23 PM
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gone get electrocuted trying that.
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Wutkindapieceofcraphouseyoulivein?***
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Apr 28, 2024, 6:25 PM
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Next door to phitiger.***
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Apr 28, 2024, 6:30 PM
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Oculus Spirit [98351]
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Essex Home. They're out of business now. Go figure.
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Apr 28, 2024, 6:36 PM
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I have become quite proficient at replacing interior fixture boxes with replacements from Lowes, etc. But this is the SAME box, but in masonry.
In sheetrock inside, these boxes are usually nailed into stud as they were installed when built. You can buy replacement boxes though that have flanges that you can screw in that lock behind the sheetrock and hold the new box firmly in place. You can't hang a ceiling fan from one, BUT you can hang most standard 3-5lb light fixtures fine. Just pull out the old brittle box (usually easy with some needle nose pliers), then get a hammer and bend the existing anchor nails out of the way, put in the new box and it works fine.
I pulled the old fixture off and kept the other 2 lights on the circuit working by keeping the existing connection, and just covered the hole with some Gorilla tape for now.
In the pic you can see where the fixture fell because the screw hole in the electric box BROKE, because it's brittle and a piece of crap. So the entire blue circular box has to be replaced.
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Sell the house!***
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Apr 28, 2024, 6:33 PM
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Burn it down!***
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Apr 28, 2024, 6:34 PM
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Why they use plastic for exterior?
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Apr 28, 2024, 6:48 PM
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Replace it with metal.
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Oculus Spirit [98351]
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Well, yeah. But how does one replace this?
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Apr 28, 2024, 6:52 PM
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That's my question. Trying to avoid a $200+ electrician visit. I've fixed this many times on interior boxes that broke from light fixtures. It's the masonry part that's a PITA. I replaced a dryer vent through masonry once, and it sucked. I've heard you can use spray foam to mount/lock it in, then grout the masonry back and it will hold. But not sure. I'm not even sure how this one is anchored. Is it just locked in the masonry? Is it mailed somehow to a stud? Guess I can figure that out, but the next step is my question.
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My guess how they built the house.
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Apr 28, 2024, 7:51 PM
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Put studs up, sheathed the house, put house wrap up, the put the brick facia on with tie anchors.
My guess is, if you broke the plastic box out, you would see the house wrapped aheathing behind the box. At that point, you could just mount the metal box to the sheathing with 3/4 to 1" long, fully threaded screws.
If not, you may could try to drill into the brick at an angle with a hammer drill through the box. Then use a tapcon screw to secure the box to the brick... or, just use masonry glue to glue it to the brick. (Some sort of PL glue you can easily find at Lowes).
Note... i am not a GC... i have added a basemebt to my house, flipped a house, remodeled 2 rentals... and currently remodelling the master bath in one of the rentals.
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there are all kinds of boxes
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Apr 28, 2024, 7:16 PM
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rip the one that you have out and take it to an electrical supply house or home depot and find a metal one that is the same size.
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Lot o points [182463]
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Thanks Neal***
Apr 28, 2024, 7:21 PM
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Oculus Spirit [98351]
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Thanks. Will yank the old one out and see what it looks like
Apr 28, 2024, 8:32 PM
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Epoxy may be easier than messing with grout or worse.
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JB Weld is the teats
Apr 28, 2024, 9:10 PM
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The duct tape of epoxy
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there's only one man here worthy of providing a solid answer
Apr 29, 2024, 9:10 AM
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and his name is FBCoachSC®
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Get a longer screw***
Apr 29, 2024, 9:26 AM
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Step 1: Remove broken fixture.
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Apr 29, 2024, 9:45 AM
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Step 2: Beat that kid'sass.
Step 3: Replace broken fixture
Step 4: Beat the kid'sass again
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You have bigger problems here
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Apr 29, 2024, 10:05 AM
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Your house fell over onto it's side
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