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Schieffelin better than PJ?
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Feb 28, 2024, 8:50 AM
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I’m starting to think so. PJ is awesome but I’m starting to believe Schieffelin will be better than PJ. He’s a better scorer and rebounder. He has a better FG% and 3pt% than Hall as well. What do you guys think?
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Different players asked to do different things.***
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Feb 28, 2024, 8:52 AM
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Re: Different players asked to do different things.***
Feb 28, 2024, 9:47 AM
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Yeah I get that too. I could be wrong. Schef has just been killing it and his rebounding is off the charts.
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Re: Different players asked to do different things.***
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Feb 28, 2024, 1:59 PM
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Not nearly as talented, not even close. But he's a blue collar type of guy. You need those, along with talented skilled players. We wouldn't be anywhere without him and his type. Think back the last 40 years, we have had these guys during the good years.
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Better... not sure... more consistent and more effort? Yes.
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Feb 28, 2024, 9:02 AM
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Granted PJ is probably getting more double teams and the better defenders... but either way it is working for the team at the moment.
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Re: Better... not sure... more consistent and more effort? Yes.
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Feb 28, 2024, 9:03 AM
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30k!!!!
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Re: Better... not sure... more consistent and more effort? Yes.
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Feb 28, 2024, 9:04 AM
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30,001!
Congrats, Sterling, on hitting a millstone!
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Well shucks... thanks. I never really pay attention to it, but
Feb 28, 2024, 12:18 PM
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300K... okie dokie
Go Tigers
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What is your argument for Schief being a better scorer
Feb 28, 2024, 9:03 AM
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than Hall?
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Re: What is your argument for Schief being a better scorer
Feb 28, 2024, 9:48 AM
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Mainly just his fg% and his 3pt% being higher.
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Lower shot volume and less attention from
Feb 28, 2024, 3:38 PM
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opposing defenses. I don't think his efficiency numbers would be that good if he were asked to be the primary scorer and take twice as many shots.
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I prefer to say they both are nice complements to each other when both are on
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Feb 28, 2024, 9:06 AM
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the floor. Also, if PJ really has been injured and not practicing lately, it is not really a fair comparison at this point in time.
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Re: I prefer to say they both are nice complements to each other when both are on
Feb 28, 2024, 9:09 AM
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the floor. Also, if PJ really has been injured and not practicing lately, it is not really a fair comparison at this point in time.
Hood posted that PJ has been injured and is not practicing so are you doubting it?
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Not doubting at all, just reiterating that I did not know that information
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Feb 28, 2024, 10:37 AM
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before today. Some of us actually live quite a distance away from campus, and are not plugged into the daily news of the program. And, we do not live in a scok army in Brad Brownell's sneaker closet, either.
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Hard to say
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Feb 28, 2024, 9:14 AM
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Hall is better offensively. He always draws the best defenders and double teams. Hall can create he own shot too.
Schieffelin is definitely a better rebounder and passer
Both handle the ball well for big guys
Both are good a defense.
I think Schieffelin has become a smarter player though and controls his emotions a little better than PJ. You don’t see Schieffelin make those dumb fouls anymore, but that’s something PJ still needs to work on.
For this team - I think Schieffelin is more valuable. I think if you took Schieffelin away, it would hurt more than losing Hall. (Losing either would hurt a lot!)
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First of all, both extremely important. PJ has the skill and talent to put
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Feb 28, 2024, 9:41 AM
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pressure on the defensive focus he faces from other teams. He's their focus, Scheff gets more space and less focus to work against.
Without either we'd not be the same team. Without PJ, the offense would really struggle.
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Re: Schieffelin better than PJ?
Feb 28, 2024, 9:21 AM
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Silly question...
Ian has a higher % because he has attempted and made 3s than Hall...Hall is asked to play the 2 and the post....Ian is strictly in the post and "sometimes" gets left alone out beyond the arc....In perspective, if the game is on the line and we need an outside jumper to hit, Hall will be shooting and not Ian...This is of course with all do respect to Ian..Hes been great
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he does better at getting a good shot
Feb 28, 2024, 9:28 AM
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PJ settles for a difficult shot too much imo
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They also face very very different defensive pressures.***
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Feb 28, 2024, 9:39 AM
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PJ is also bigger than Scheif
Feb 28, 2024, 8:04 PM
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and may face more double teams. There were a couple of instances last night where he was one-on-one and settled for highly contested 8-10 ft turnaround jumper.
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Re: Schieffelin better than PJ?
Feb 28, 2024, 9:35 AM
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Not a big basketball guy in general, but Hall looks to me like a guy that is used to being really good and kinda rides his past a little. Shieffelin looks like a guy that's had to claw his way for every inch of recognition he gets, and goes 100%. I prefer Shef, but like Hall a lot too. Shef def moves better to me than Hall. Rebounds MUCH better. Hall should be cleaning everything up with his size.
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Both do great at what they're asked to do, and the defenses they face. But if
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Feb 28, 2024, 9:38 AM
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the question is production to product, talent and output vs the other, PJ is the 'better' basketball player. But both highly highly important.
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Re: Schieffelin better than PJ?
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Feb 28, 2024, 9:43 AM
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I’m starting to think so. PJ is awesome but I’m starting to believe Schieffelin will be better than PJ. He’s a better scorer and rebounder. He has a better FG% and 3pt% than Hall as well. What do you guys think?
remember that one time back at band camp. smfh
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Re: Schieffelin better than PJ?
Feb 28, 2024, 9:51 AM
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Huh?
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They both are TERRIFIC***
Feb 28, 2024, 9:54 AM
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PJ is a gifted player but does work his tail off, Ian
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Feb 28, 2024, 10:04 AM
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is a good player that works his tail off to do the things others are not willing to do. His hustle alone would be enough to start every game for my team. He contributes in so many ways that the box score does not show.
PJ is an enigma. Great player, does not always play great, often times gets exhausted after a 4 minute spurt during games. Big guy so understandable but he does seem to get winded in most games even with all his foul trouble issues.
I honestly think Ian can have nice career in basketball. You cannot teach what he has, which is nose for the ball and has a knack for making the little plays that can help his team win.
Love them both, totally different players, but both Clemson Tigers!!
Go Tigers!!
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Re: PJ is a gifted player but does work his tail off, Ian
Feb 28, 2024, 2:12 PM
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Ian Schieffelin : Basketball :: Ben Boulware : Football.
Except Schieffelin may make an NBA team.
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No, this is an Elden/Dale comparison...Ian does what he does because of the
Feb 28, 2024, 2:09 PM
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focus on PJ
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Re: No, this is an Elden/Dale comparison...Ian does what he does because of the
Feb 28, 2024, 8:04 PM
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PJ is in foul trouble a lot, Schief still does a lot of his work when he's out.
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Re: Schieffelin better than PJ?
Feb 28, 2024, 3:27 PM
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Slow your roll!!!!
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Re: Schieffelin better than PJ?
Feb 28, 2024, 4:01 PM
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I think he has come up bigger in our most important games. But as many have commented PJ probably gets way more attention from the opposing teams defensive plan. Hoping PJ will play his best this post season.
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Re: Schieffelin better than PJ?
Feb 28, 2024, 4:05 PM
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The NBA seems to think Hall is the guy. He will possibly be a first round pick.
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