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You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want
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You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want


Sep 26, 2009, 6:48 PM

Napier, you don't want Bowden, and most of you likely don't want Dabo.

You don't want nuthin' but something to b!tch about.

It was a tough game. We made mistakes. They made mistakes. They won. We lost. I am sick of you friggin' losers who want to scrap the whole program every loss. Dayum, you people are a buncha' cry babies.

Why do you even watch college football with all its ups and downs?!? It doesn't seem that you have the mental stamina necessary for it. Seriously.

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I actually like Dabo and the coaches he has hired... but I


Sep 26, 2009, 6:49 PM

think he messed up keeping Napier and Scott. Those are our two problem areas.

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Re: I actually like Dabo and the coaches he has hired... but I


Sep 26, 2009, 10:24 PM

Good point.

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Re: I actually like Dabo and the coaches he has hired... but I


Sep 27, 2009, 12:07 AM [ in reply to I actually like Dabo and the coaches he has hired... but I ]

Napier if fine, but not designing the offense, the gameplan and calling the plays...

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I don't


Sep 27, 2009, 1:48 AM [ in reply to I actually like Dabo and the coaches he has hired... but I ]

I didn't like the Dabo hire from the start. Hiring someone with as little coaching experience as him made me think that the AD was a crazy.

The Steele hire was a good one, but Dabo...not so much.

We'll be 7-5 this year and people like the original poster will still find ways to make that ok. We're going to lose to Miami and FSU coming up the way we've played so far. It is sad. Our defense is keeping us in games, but we just can't score.

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We wanna win...period


Sep 26, 2009, 6:49 PM

espically at home

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With that comes the risk of losing. It happens. Grow up.***


Sep 26, 2009, 6:50 PM



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I don't think some here understand that games work that


Sep 26, 2009, 6:51 PM

way! ;)

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So true. The mental toughness of these winers is pathetic...***


Sep 26, 2009, 6:53 PM



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only loosers like to lose***


Sep 26, 2009, 6:53 PM [ in reply to With that comes the risk of losing. It happens. Grow up.*** ]



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Who said they like to lose?!?***


Sep 26, 2009, 6:57 PM



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sounds like you don't have a problem with it.***


Sep 26, 2009, 7:05 PM



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Or so you comfort your self immolation by thinking. Hater.***


Sep 26, 2009, 7:13 PM



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Re: Or so you comfort your self immolation by thinking. Hate


Sep 26, 2009, 10:39 PM

Immolating-
1. to sacrifice.
2. to kill as a sacrificial victim, as by fire; offer in sacrifice.
3. to destroy by fire.

Thought I could save others a trip to dictionary.com

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lol***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:43 PM



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Re: Or so you comfort your self immolation by thinking. Hate


Sep 26, 2009, 10:55 PM [ in reply to Re: Or so you comfort your self immolation by thinking. Hate ]

a web search takes 10 secs for the rest of the idiot coots

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Only losers spell losers loosers***


Sep 27, 2009, 12:16 AM [ in reply to only loosers like to lose*** ]



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Good teams win good deal more than they lose, hence they


Sep 26, 2009, 7:50 PM [ in reply to With that comes the risk of losing. It happens. Grow up.*** ]

have less risk of losing. Not really sure what the hell that post meant Socrates

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Wins will come as soon as the receivers quit


Sep 26, 2009, 6:56 PM [ in reply to We wanna win...period ]

playing scared. We need receivers that are not scared to get hit. On the pass in the endzone to Jones he did not make an effort to catch the ball. Someone in the receiving corps needs to stand up and be a man and make the #### big catch

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I think the fans just want wins CLEM***


Sep 26, 2009, 6:50 PM



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They want perfection. And no one but Christ Himself has it.


Sep 26, 2009, 6:52 PM

So unless He returns and decides to coach our team prior to smiting Satan at Armageddon...they are bound for disappointment.

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Re: They want perfection. And no one but Christ Himself has it.


Sep 26, 2009, 6:55 PM

perfection...no

beating a MWC team at home...yes

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Where were they ranked again? And where were we?***


Sep 26, 2009, 6:59 PM



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And technically, the losers even fired Christ.***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:30 PM [ in reply to Re: They want perfection. And no one but Christ Himself has it. ]



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Danny Ford was pretty close***


Sep 26, 2009, 6:56 PM [ in reply to They want perfection. And no one but Christ Himself has it. ]



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I remember sitting in the stands listening to the same


Sep 26, 2009, 6:58 PM

complaints about Danny Ford.

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Must have been the coot fans when they were getting their


Sep 26, 2009, 7:01 PM

arses beat

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Re: Must have been the coot fans when they were getting their


Sep 26, 2009, 7:18 PM

No it is some of the same ones who want to ##### every time we lose. Remember Danny only had one undefeated season.

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^^^Perfect example of the need of a thumbs down botton^^^***


Sep 26, 2009, 9:16 PM [ in reply to Danny Ford was pretty close*** ]



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Re: Danny Ford was pretty close***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:28 PM [ in reply to Danny Ford was pretty close*** ]

Danny Ford lost a lot of games too. Time makes the memory foggy on those things for some.

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Also I would watch how you call people fools,read


Sep 26, 2009, 9:09 PM [ in reply to They want perfection. And no one but Christ Himself has it. ]

Matthew 5:22,and yes we want to win,it has been over 18 years since we last one an acc title.Wake has one.

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We want perfection? 3-1 would have been nice.***


Sep 26, 2009, 11:52 PM [ in reply to They want perfection. And no one but Christ Himself has it. ]



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the problem is you have a 29 year old using Rob Spence


Sep 26, 2009, 6:51 PM

play book. He has been an OC for 1 year at SC State. Come on it's not like you are talking about the difference between parcels and Ditka here. Why do we use last years offense, that we hated?

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Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want


Sep 26, 2009, 6:51 PM

I don't think it is that bud...I just would like to see a little consistency on offense...our defenses have been solid and gave us the chance to win may games that we didnt' ......

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Nicely said!***


Sep 26, 2009, 6:52 PM



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Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want


Sep 26, 2009, 6:52 PM

Nobody wants to scrap the whole program. They just want to beat w crappy team fom fort worth. We should have beat this team. I am sad that people are on here excited about losing a game. Go TIGERS, only lost by 4, YEAH!

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TCU is not that bad, and they played tough. We are a better


Sep 26, 2009, 10:42 PM

team, with an up and coming stud as QB, but today...TCU was just a little bit better.

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Re: TCU is not that bad, and they played tough. We are a better


Sep 26, 2009, 10:53 PM

"TCU is not that bad, and they played tough. We are a better
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team, with an up and coming stud as QB, but today...TCU was just a little bit better. "

You know how rediculous that sounds? It's old now dude!

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very good point***


Sep 26, 2009, 11:30 PM [ in reply to Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want ]



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Shouldn't have fired Bowden unless you had a plan B


Sep 26, 2009, 6:54 PM

which we didn't

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Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want


Sep 26, 2009, 6:55 PM

its not what we "don't want"

its what we "do want"

and that happens to be a better football team

and this whole "job search" by TDP was a joke

we needed to flush the commode and we passed on the opportunity to do so

we needed to find a coach that would give us a higher probability of success (and yes i know there are no guarantees with any coach)

...you see the results

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Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't


Sep 26, 2009, 7:01 PM

i'm not calling for anybody's head, but our offense sucks.

if you can't see that, you're blind.

our defense and our special teams are darn good. you can't really ask for better. but our offense is pathetic.

if this was some anomoly that you could chalk up to one game, then sure. but our offense has sucked this season and has sucked for a good long while now.

maybe th playcalling isn't the problem, then it falls on the staff. but make no mistake, something with our offense is bad wrong.

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Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't


Sep 26, 2009, 7:08 PM

How did Danny do in his first season?

I'm not saying Dabo = a coach with that success, but we need to give him a season or two. He'a already made a few changes from the previous administration. You cant judge based on a few games with a new coach.

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I know TCU has a great defense, but Dabo should have


Sep 26, 2009, 7:08 PM

hired aveteran off. coordinator from somewhere. People said this when he didn't hire one. Move up and down but no red zone production. Should have hired an offensive coordinator, just sayin.

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Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want


Sep 26, 2009, 7:09 PM

Probably a lot of frustration after years of watching the good teams win and wishing we were like them. All we can do is enjoy the wins we do get and live with the rest. We shouldn't worry about championships because I don't see us winning one of any kind for a long-long time.

We are what we are.

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I want Bud Foster & I want a national title.


Sep 26, 2009, 7:10 PM

You don't care about winning

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You don't know what it takes to win.***


Sep 26, 2009, 7:19 PM



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and you think


Sep 26, 2009, 7:45 PM

hiring a WR coach, who has only been that for 5 years, is the way to win, right? lmao. what a fool

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Bobby Bowden says hi.***


Sep 26, 2009, 9:03 PM



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exactly***


Sep 26, 2009, 11:31 PM [ in reply to and you think ]



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not really sure any Clemson fan born after the mid 80s knows


Sep 26, 2009, 7:49 PM [ in reply to You don't know what it takes to win.*** ]

what its like to win

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Re: You don't know what it takes to win.***


Sep 26, 2009, 9:20 PM [ in reply to You don't know what it takes to win.*** ]

An offense that can actual put up points and some recievers who can catch.Dobo has a very talented team,so he has no excuses.0-5 against ranked teams.

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LOL...since when do you Lungsters care about what this


Sep 26, 2009, 7:38 PM

board thinks? All you do is ridicule it, and then you come over and think you can change the mindset with one little rah-rah post?

Oh, BTW, I agree. This board is completely effed up with ignorance, thin skinned Tigers, and coot posers.

Oh well..it is what it is

Go Tigers!!!

PS- I wouldn't mind a new OL coach though. But that's just me

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No ,we wanted Mike Leach.Atleats then we


Sep 26, 2009, 9:05 PM

would have an offense.Fool by definition = someone who says in their own heart there is no God.

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You're right, we don't want those people...what we want is


Sep 26, 2009, 9:07 PM

to win...you know, like Saban does in his first season at Bama. We just need the commitment to excellence and not the chicken little mentality that lesser men like you espouse...

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Exactly.***


Sep 26, 2009, 9:11 PM



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Re: You're right, we don't want those people...what we want is


Sep 26, 2009, 11:14 PM [ in reply to You're right, we don't want those people...what we want is ]

Well, why not come off the money and hire Saban. He is a hired gun. He runs where the dollar signs are. You get what you pay for. Spend the money Alabama spends and you can expect Alabama results.

Unlike Dabo, Saban inherited personnel that were ideal to the offense he wanted to run. Dabo does not have the offensive personnel to do what he wants to do.

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Re: You're right, we don't want those people...what we want is


Sep 26, 2009, 11:16 PM

Well, if Dabo doesnt have the offensive personel to do what he wants, he will never get it. You don't get many spillers and fords every year. To say he doesn't have the offense is insane.

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Re: You're right, we don't want those people...what we want is


Sep 26, 2009, 11:27 PM

Dabo does not have the offensive line to run the ball. I do not care what backs or receivers you have, if your line can not make enough gaps to put the backs in space, you can hang it up. The O. line can not get enough penetration to make the line backers stay home and respect the dive. Until you can freeze at least the middle line backer for dive responsibility, you can forget having a good offense.

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Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want


Sep 26, 2009, 9:08 PM

Love this post! Thanks OP, I couldn't have said it better myself.

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What do you mean "You People" ???***


Sep 26, 2009, 9:14 PM



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As in you fools...and you know who you people are.***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:22 PM



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SERIOUSLY!!!! The Crybabies on this board make me sick!


Sep 26, 2009, 9:14 PM

The better team won tonight people...... And hell yes it hurts!

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Re: SERIOUSLY!!!! The Crybabies on this board make me sick!


Sep 26, 2009, 9:23 PM

We lost to horny toads.Dabon is 0-5 against ranked teams,with alot of talent.

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I had no idea Clempson93 could make this sort of intelligent


Sep 26, 2009, 9:25 PM

analysis. I'm used to manure he spreads around over at The Lounge. Well said, Clempson93.

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Thanks, scok.***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:21 PM



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Ooooooooh!***


Sep 27, 2009, 7:30 AM



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Where's your source for this?


Sep 26, 2009, 10:23 PM

I assume a c/p from national review

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Ha. ot made a funny.***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:23 PM



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you should see what I made on your mother, trebek***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:44 PM



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Really. Should I.***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:46 PM



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You probably wouldn't think it that funny.***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:51 PM



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Really.***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:52 PM



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cereally.***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:52 PM



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Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want


Sep 26, 2009, 10:23 PM

We get what we pay for. We have a young coach, that is learning on the job. There is no time for that. We fired a good coach that did okay and had no real plan. We hired a guy that we liked rather then was qualified. We get what we asked for.

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I am on record as wanting Bill Cowher, But I'm all in with


Sep 26, 2009, 10:25 PM

Dabo now, as we all are. So let's give him a friggin' chance.

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Re: I am on record as wanting Bill Cowher, But I'm all in with


Sep 26, 2009, 10:27 PM

Dabo has had his chance and so far he is 6-5. We have an offense that has scored 1 offensive touchdown in 10 quarters. That's ridiculous with the talent and speed on our team. Something isnt right. You tell me then...

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Our fickle fan base is what is not right.***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:29 PM



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Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want


Sep 26, 2009, 10:29 PM

I kind of like to go one season with no coaches at all.

I wouldn't be surprised if the kids did just as well without middle age men making the calls. :)

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Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want


Sep 26, 2009, 10:32 PM

Dabo is gonna run our program in the dirt

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And what are Wed's Powerball numbers, oh Great Carnac?***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:35 PM



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You Sir, are one twisted fa-reeeek!!! I love it!***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:55 PM [ in reply to Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want ]



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Here's the thing, Bowden was fired for poor performance


Sep 26, 2009, 10:47 PM

Well they promoted Dabo, fired Spence. But kept the rest of the offense coaches, and even kept Spence's offense and his playbook!!! So, now its the exact same thing, no difference.

We have CJ Spiller, one of the most dynamic RB's in college football. And he cant even get 100 yds rushing. Its a pathetic offensive scheme o-line coaching.

Something needs to change. The only constant that remains is Napier, Brad scott, and his son jeff scott. Dabo should have completely cleaned house on the offensive side of the ball, and TDP should have forced that on him.

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And Clemson fans should do their part and let Dabo do his


Sep 26, 2009, 10:48 PM

friggin' job.

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Re: And Clemson fans should do their part and let Dabo do his


Sep 26, 2009, 10:50 PM

He is doing his freaking job. And he is 6-5 at it.

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Re: And Clemson fans should do their part and let Dabo do his


Sep 26, 2009, 10:53 PM

Clemson fans have no job until they start paying us.

I don't charge money for my scathing criticisms of Clemson athletics.

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You people are un-freakin'-believable.***


Sep 26, 2009, 11:05 PM [ in reply to Re: And Clemson fans should do their part and let Dabo do his ]



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Re: Here's the thing, Bowden was fired for poor performance


Sep 26, 2009, 10:50 PM [ in reply to Here's the thing, Bowden was fired for poor performance ]

Clemson should fire Dabo, hire the ex-Boston College coach canned by Tampa Bay Bucs prior to the regular season because he had no playbook despite being the OC.

Yes it can get worst than Dabo, and that is just one scenario. :)

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Re: Here's the thing, Bowden was fired for poor performance


Sep 26, 2009, 10:51 PM

But probably not alot worste.

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He had over 100 yds vs a defense that usually does


Sep 27, 2009, 7:33 AM [ in reply to Here's the thing, Bowden was fired for poor performance ]

not allow that.

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Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want


Sep 26, 2009, 10:53 PM

hey, u don't spell clemson, clempson, if u think coots are so good than go talk to a team called florida

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C93 has a learning disability, you classless ####.


Sep 26, 2009, 10:54 PM

Everybody knows that. I bet you made fun of the special kids in school, didn't you?

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lol...says the guy who's name he cant fully spell.***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:57 PM



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Re: C93 has a learning disability, you classless ####.


Sep 26, 2009, 10:57 PM [ in reply to C93 has a learning disability, you classless ####. ]

no, maybe, oh i give up!
IF U ARE A COOT AND WANNA SEE A REAL FOOTBALL TEAM PLAY OUR TOUR END IN COOTLUMBIA!
GO TIGERS!

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Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want


Sep 26, 2009, 10:55 PM [ in reply to Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want ]

Clemson would get pounded by Florida too so I don't think we want to go with that putdown.

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You are right. But you say it with a p, as in clemp-son.***


Sep 26, 2009, 10:56 PM [ in reply to Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want ]



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Re: You are right. But you say it with a p, as in clemp-son.***


Sep 26, 2009, 11:06 PM

To be honest, I never noticed anybody pronounce it like Clemp-son. It only became an issue when that lawyer did an ad about it.

Clemson is an unusual name. A friend in college told me it sounded like a STD.

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I grew up in the Upstate and that is how we pronounce it.


Sep 26, 2009, 11:10 PM

The Clem-zen that some say, I hate hearing. It's not right. That's not how you say it...there is a p there.

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Re: I grew up in the Upstate and that is how we pronounce it.


Sep 26, 2009, 11:11 PM

You seem obsessed with it. Not a big deal.

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Um, no. But it is my name, first off. Second, the guy


Sep 26, 2009, 11:22 PM

asked about it, as did you. I answered the questioning.

Relax, doc.

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I WANT AN OFFENSIVE LINE !!!!!!!!!!!!!***


Sep 26, 2009, 11:34 PM



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Re: I WANT AN OFFENSIVE LINE !!!!!!!!!!!!!***


Sep 26, 2009, 11:46 PM

A big one, that can establish the dive.

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Nah...but Dabo doesn't want that. lol...ggeezzz...***


Sep 27, 2009, 6:52 AM [ in reply to I WANT AN OFFENSIVE LINE !!!!!!!!!!!!!*** ]



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Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want


Sep 27, 2009, 12:05 AM

We didn't become fans last year Clemson93.....we don't want results overnight. How long did we put up with Tammy. If anything can be said Clemson fans, it's that we are the most patient m##### ######s in the country. Settling is why we are where we are. Don't want read B#######, don't get on Tnet

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Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want


Sep 27, 2009, 8:55 AM

Geeezzz...

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You hit it right on the money, people just want to bi@#$.***


Sep 27, 2009, 1:42 AM



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Very typical of a certain portion of our fan base.***


Sep 27, 2009, 6:51 AM



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Re: You people are fools. You don't want Spence, you don't want


Sep 27, 2009, 3:13 AM

Yes, as fans we want to see Clemson get back to the storied program it once was. If we had won a couple of ACC titles, a couple of BCS Bowls. Then this loss wouldn't be nearly as hard to swallow. Clemson, has the 3rd best talent in the ACC, and you cant tell it. We have to be more consistent, were always 1 player away. Last year, it was our OL. This year, we don't have an experienced QB. KP will be good, if he stays. But I honeslty think he will jump for the millions in baseball.

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Having fans calling for him to be benched will surely make


Sep 27, 2009, 7:03 AM

him want to forego those millions for a year or two, dontcha' think.

The kid has got skillz, and these critical fans need to shut the freak up so we can see him develop them.

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