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I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 9:33 PM
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And first let me say I’m happy with the win. I’m happy with the division title.
That being said, despite not having as much talent as a few years ago, we are still the most talented team in football not named Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, and possibly Texas A&M.
Culture and talent alone do not win championships! History has proven this over and over and over!
Alabama under Saban has been the most dominant program in college football history and their culture sucks! That 15 year dominant streak by FSU and Miami in the 80s and 90s were historically dominant. Neither of them had a culture anyone would find appealing or admirable. What they had was talent and great coaching! Just like Alabama
Sorry Dabo, a great culture can take a mediocre team and maybe make them a really good team. A really good team can be elevated to great by culture. But culture and talent don’t win championships without solid coaching.
Last year and this team are the most poorly coached, fundamentally unsound, and least disciplined football teams I have seen in Clemson since the 1970s!
Call me a hater all you want. I’m a Clemson grad, grew up playing on the hill in the 70s, went to football camp in the late 70s, and graduated in ‘88 with a BS in finance.
I love Clemson!
But I’m also objective and rational and understand football. This team has awful fundamentals, is poorly coach, and lacks motivation and discipline.
The only reason we won 10 games last year and 9 this year is because we simply have more talent. The ACC sucks!
We have more talent than Notre Dame. A team with a first year coach and a second string quarterback that is not an effective passer.
Louisville hung in there with an injured first string quarterback and a mediocre second string quarterback.
This game should’ve been an epic beat down.
The score should’ve been 35+ to 0 at the half and ended 55+ to 0.
Go look at the percentage of plays during the regular season by Deshaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence. They rarely played beyond the third quarter if not out midway through the third quarter. We often played three and sometimes four quarterbacks over the past 10 years. With Watson and Lawrence, Dabo would often play the second string quarterback in the first quarter even in a big game or a conference game. But the past two years DJ has had over 90% if not 95+ percent of the snaps. This game should’ve been over at half time so Cade could’ve played the second half. That’s how you build a dominant program. We’re not even close to that right now! And it’s 100% because of Dabo being arrogant and stubborn and putting culture and loyalty over coaching!
Clemson has never had wide receivers this talented yet fundamentally poor since, ever! Clemson receivers used to brag about their blocking. They talked about it all the time. They were proud of it. The past two years they can’t block a refrigerator bus being blown down the field by a gust of wind! It’s pathetic. Especially considering Dabo was a highly successful wide receiver coach at Clemson and Alabama. He knows that blocking is about coaching and effort. Fundamentals! I love the X Clemson players at Clemson. I love having them on staff for the culture. But they should not be position coaches. None of them!
I saw someone post earlier this week that this staff, with few exceptions, is either a past Clemson player Or close personal friend to Dabo. And this is one of, if not the, most highly paid coaching staffs in college football! But they suck! Without a generational talent at quarterback we are only slightly above average as a team. We are winning, barely, on talent alone in a conference that is terrible. But this conference has a lot of good quarterbacks and a lot of very good coaching. There are a handful of ACC coaching staffs that could be getting more out of our talent!
So go ahead! Attack me all you want. I’m right. I know I’m right because the experts say a lot of the same things. I know I’m right because my high school coaches were also family friends and I see them sometimes and they are far less kind than I am when evaluating Clemson. Several of them graduated from Clemson! They are the hardest critics of Dabo and this coaching staff!, as it should be!
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Tell 'em u7c coot, no one knows losing better than you
Nov 12, 2022, 9:37 PM
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Do you get paid by the word ? LOL
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Oculus Spirit [90820]
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Yep, seems we're coasting & getting by due to talent
Nov 12, 2022, 9:43 PM
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but our talent is not as good overall as in past but with better coaching, scheme & play calling we could be closer to a CFP team than we are.
Still, 9 & 1 in this wild world of college football is splendid, win number wise.
Go TiGERS!
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 9:40 PM
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I think you need to take a break. Seriously.
This is supposed to be fun…it doesn’t sound like you are having fun.
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Freshman [-99]
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Clearly you didn’t read what I said I’m happy with the win the division title.
Nov 12, 2022, 10:05 PM
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I’m 56 years old. I didn’t even watch the game until after 7 o’clock. I went out and enjoyed my day in the Lowcountry. Came home and watched it on YouTube TV after recording it. I wasn’t even mad or upset after the Notre Dame game. Frustrated. Yes. Mad or upset? Nope.
In my younger days I lived and died by Clemson athletics. As a mature adult I don’t get worked up. I was actually making jokes about the Notre Dame game Sunday afternoon.
What I wrote was a completely rational and predominately un-emotional observation from someone that would have played football and ran track at Clemson in the 80s if not for a car accident in high school. I understand the game and athletics. And again, this is pretty much what the experts see, as well as my old high school coaches who are very good!
I love people to say it’s just a game. It was just a game. But now it’s a multi billion dollar business and we have a head coach making more than $9 million a year and a coaching staff making over $12 million a year. Probably closer to 15 million before our two head coordinators left. High school kids are now making money. Quarterbacks are making more than $1 million a year thanks for NIL. So you can call it just a game if you want, but you’re being ignorant and asinine and you and I both know it!
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110%er [5121]
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Re: Clearly you didn’t read what I said I’m happy with the win the division title.
Nov 12, 2022, 10:07 PM
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Are you having fun?
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Freshman [-99]
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Your people remind me of Democrats.
Nov 12, 2022, 10:10 PM
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Totally oblivious and members of a cult
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110%er [5121]
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Re: Your people remind me of Democrats.
Nov 12, 2022, 10:14 PM
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If you’re not having fun, why torture yourself? I would give it all up tomorrow if it stopped being fun…
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Freshman [-99]
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Lol you’re so cute! .***
Nov 12, 2022, 10:20 PM
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Re: Lol you’re so cute! .***
Nov 12, 2022, 10:27 PM
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You’re not my type, sorry.
All I did was offer some good advice to you and that caused a rant…I go back to my advice, maybe you should take a break.
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Freshman [-99]
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Rant?
Nov 12, 2022, 10:28 PM
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You wish! There was nothing emotional about my OP. It was 100% objective analysis. Again, ad hominem attack trying to discredit the poster because you can’t counter the facts.
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110%er [5121]
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Re: Rant?
Nov 12, 2022, 10:44 PM
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Again, all I did was post “I think you need to take a break. Seriously.
This is supposed to be fun…it doesn’t sound like you are having fun.”
Take it all how you will. Goodnight.
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Freshman [-99]
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You’re clearly suggesting I need to take a break for mental reasons or emotional reasons.
Nov 13, 2022, 1:48 AM
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Stopped acting obtuse and dense I know you’re smarter than that despite being a completely brainwashed liberal!
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Re: You’re clearly suggesting I need to take a break for mental reasons or emotional reasons.
Nov 13, 2022, 8:39 AM
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He doesn’t realize that the fact he commented on your very based commentary, means he was bothered by it in at least a small way. If what you said didn’t annoy him, he would not have even posted. But you need to take a break because what your opinion does is bother him because he knows it’s true. I enjoyed the post BTW. I agree on all that you said.
A basic rule of thumb here is that anyone that calls you a Coot, is of low IQ, and knows what you said is probably close to the truth.
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Re: Your people remind me of Democrats.
Nov 13, 2022, 4:02 PM
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if the rumors spread by his boyfriend are true then noodless is a bit more 'apropos'; remains a sick depraved individual in either case.
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Re: You? Rational? Crawl back in your right wing extremist hole***
Nov 13, 2022, 11:10 AM
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Hilarious that his pulse is 62% and yours is half of his! Guessing not too many people agree with you on this board!
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Noodle, he's the same poster that called Jeff Davis a liar.
Nov 12, 2022, 10:43 PM
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It's all about Blue_Caddie[his og] and not Clemson, even though he'll swear that's not the case.
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Freshman [-99]
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First, it wasn’t Jeff Davis it was Billy Davis.
Nov 13, 2022, 1:47 AM
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And in that interview he did in fact say that a lot of things at Clemson have changed and he doesn’t agree with all of them and he did feel skeptical about Dabo in the beginning. Newsflash. Everyone did! The only people that were not suspect about Dabo are liars, revisionist historians, and the people that are Clemson no matter what regardless of what our coaches players or administrators do. Just like gamecock fans, just like other people that are in a cult of personality.
A lot of things have disappeared on the Internet over the years. I tried to find that interview again to link it for people to listen to but I never could find it. Just like other things I’ve tried looking for back in the 90s. And there were other people that backed me up and said they heard that interview and and agreed with my assessment of Billy‘s comments.
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Shameful, but perhaps B_Caddie was emotionally empaired?
Nov 13, 2022, 8:59 AM
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It does narrow the vision and blur the judgment.
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110%er [6140]
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No attack here, we have yet to play a complete game
Nov 12, 2022, 9:40 PM
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This game should have been over by halftime. It wasn’t over until late 4th quarter. We might well win the ACC without playing a complete game. What would over record be if we played Bama’s schedule? I don’t think it would be very good.
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Re: No attack here, we have yet to play a complete game
Nov 12, 2022, 9:42 PM
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It really was over at halftime. That is what keeps making second halves so boring. Just trying to run the ball and run out the clock.
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Freshman [-99]
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It was only over at the house because
Nov 12, 2022, 10:09 PM
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It was obvious they couldn’t do anything. But good programs put games away in the first half and let younger players play in the second half. That’s what we did when we were dominant. Now we’re winning on town alone because we have poor coaching poor fundamentals and little to no discipline. And when you’re playing like that last weekend as what happens! And we very easily could’ve lost to Wake Forest even though that game should’ve been over at the half.
Last year and this we probably make the playoffs with the Wake Forest coaching staff. Possibly even Pittsburgh, Boston College and NC states coaching staffs.
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Re: No attack here, we have yet to play a complete game
Nov 12, 2022, 11:22 PM
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That's wrong. No game this year less Furman has been over by half. If that were the case, cade or hunter would be in after half.
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Freshman [-99]
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There’s a certain faction on this forum
Nov 13, 2022, 1:50 AM
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Whether it’s politics or Covid or anything Clemson related they’re in denial. It’s like brainwashed cult of personality type behavior.
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 9:41 PM
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I stopped reading at texas a&m
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Ignorance is bliss!***
Nov 12, 2022, 10:12 PM
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 9:43 PM
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Lighten up Francis. It’s a game. Clemson is 9-1. A hundred other teams would love to be in their position. 2 new coordinators. Give them some time.
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 9:45 PM
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You are suffering from terminal written diarrhea. Give your fingers a break.
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 9:52 PM
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Please stop with the “give them time” stuff. We’ve been the second best team in the playoff era. No reason should be hiring coordinators that need seasoning.
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All-American [572]
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This is a reasonable, sound perspective...
Nov 13, 2022, 4:17 PM
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and a point that seems obvious after having read it but I've never come across any remotely framed as such. Any informed Tiger fan of sound mind would find it difficult to dispute "RC Tiger" statement. Feels obvious yet profound simultaneously-the undeniable truth of it-distressing
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 9:53 PM
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The issue is we make very low IQ play calls. We don’t account for numbers. He try to do things with players that don’t have the skill set to do them. Coaching staff just isn’t calling smart calls.
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 9:47 PM
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I’m sure your counselor is proud of you!
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Freshman [-99]
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Actually ask anyone that knows me well.
Nov 12, 2022, 10:13 PM
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I am one of the most rational objective and emotionally motivated people you’ll ever meet.
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All-In [34486]
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A very stable genius, even!***
Nov 13, 2022, 4:23 PM
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Pearls before swine*****
Nov 12, 2022, 9:47 PM
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Objective? Rational? Understand football?
Check all that crap at the door. And please, whatever you do, don't turn on the lights. Hurts our eyes.
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Tell 'em u7c coot, no one knows losing better than you
Nov 12, 2022, 10:02 PM
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Orange Blooded [3145]
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Good Lowered, I quit reading after the second paragraph
Nov 12, 2022, 9:52 PM
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Ohio State wins and everybody knows that they have no culture. Ha!
It takes talent. We clearly are limited in several areas across the team.
Be happy for the win. It makes life more enjoyable. Go Tigers!
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Freshman [-99]
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Coaching is more important than talent. History has proven that.
Nov 12, 2022, 10:24 PM
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Florida State has talent. Look at all the time on the Texas A&M.
Look at how Urban Meyer and Nick Saban win national championships not long atter stepping on campus with the same talent that was getting their ### kicked for years.
Tell it is fairly well distributed across the NFL. Coaching is the difference.
No one in the ACC has anywhere remotely the same talent we do. But we struggle to win those games the past two years. Notre Dame has far less talent than us.
We are being outcoached and outplayed the past two years! We have plenty of talent. We don’t have as much as we did a few years ago, but we are still one of the most talented teams in the country and by far the most talented team in the ACC. Culture is mostly crap. Don’t get me wrong, I love our culture. But that doesn’t win championships.
You need talent to be dominant and persistent from year to year. But any given year it’s much more about the coaching. We had almost no talent when Dabo got here. The winning started first then the recruiting got better and the talent improved and we became a dominant Program. But our coaching staff is nowhere near as good today as it was a few years ago.
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Orange Blooded [3145]
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Good Lowered, I quit reading after the second paragraph
Nov 12, 2022, 9:52 PM
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Ohio State wins and everybody knows that they have no culture. Ha!
It takes talent. We clearly are limited in several areas across the team.
Be happy for the win. It makes life more enjoyable. Go Tigers!
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as accurate and insightful as any post on the internet
Nov 12, 2022, 9:54 PM
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in other words, what the #### do you know about coaching football?
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Freshman [-99]
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You know I’m right.
Nov 12, 2022, 10:27 PM
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It’s just like the liberals on here attacking conservatives libertarians and Republicans. They know we are right. If we were wrong they would prove us wrong. But when data science history and the facts are in your favor all you can do is be emotional and attack people and try and discredit them. You’re trying to discredit me. I actually know a lot about football. And if you knew more than me, if the facts were on your side other than your little girl emotions you would post something factually correct that I got wrong. But you can’t do that. So good luck with that!
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“Aren’t in your favor”***
Nov 12, 2022, 10:30 PM
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Re: You know I’m right.
Nov 12, 2022, 11:12 PM
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You don't know sh it about football. ####
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Freshman [-99]
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OK Mr. football expert.
Nov 13, 2022, 1:54 AM
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What did I get wrong? Factually what did I get wrong? I’m all ears.
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Re: You know I’m right.
Nov 13, 2022, 4:55 PM
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Low Country you’re comments are correct. I see the talent is there but coaching is killing the possible championship result. Play calling is high school level if that. Anyone here seen very many 3 rd and 13 as much as we have seen last 2 seasons and called play either pass behind line or 3-5 yards out. Defense can’t stop run now, what the heck. Drake May will kill us. This last game someone explain putting Cade in for a series and right back to DJ. I know Dabo is a loyal person but Cade is the future and he needs to at least rotate qb quarters next 2 games.
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 9:55 PM
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Things never stay the same in life. We’ve won 2 nattys in the last 6 years. These things ebb and flow. Hopefully we’ll make another run but if not, it’s been an awesome ride!
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 9:57 PM
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wake up and smell the coffee........
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That’s true to the degree but here’s where you’re wrong
Nov 12, 2022, 10:32 PM
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We still have more talent than anyone in the ACC and Notre Dame. You can count on one hand the number of teams with more talent. We’re losing because Dabo is stubborn and arrogant and thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room and doesn’t make the changes we need on the coaching staff. These are self-inflicted wounds!
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 9:56 PM
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I think we can become a dominant program with a good culture. It's just going to take some insight to recognize the issues and actually try to fix them in the offseason instead of hoping everyone just turns on the light switch and hoping loyalty takes control. We are who we are right now and I don't see that changing this season. Maybe the bowl game will be better and show improvement? But who knows, we aren't in bowl season yet. It's frustrating to watch but we just have to live with it and hope Dabo makes the necessary changes in the offseason to get us there. But watching the offense now these last few weeks is just sad when we have to rely on just the running backs to carry us to wins and hope the defense holds every team under 3 TD's (just like last year). Grateful the ACC is a dumpster fire and almost every program is in full suckage, otherwise we'd be in a lot of trouble being this one dimensional now.
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This isn’t Dabo from 10 years ago.
Nov 12, 2022, 10:19 PM
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Today he thinks he’s smarter than all of the experts. Today he thinks he went on culture alone. Today he thinks you don’t need the portal. Today he thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. Today he is stubborn and will not make changes until the program has declined even worse and it can no longer be excused away the way people are trying to do this year.
We are a poorly poorly coached team. We lack even basic fundamentals at some positions. And we have little motivation and poor discipline! This is 100% coaching. If you think Dabo is going to make Wholesale changes on the coaching staff until we lose a lot more games to inferior teams you’re kidding yourself.
I hope I’m wrong. I would love to be wrong. I would love to come on here and say I was wrong! But Dabo is not going to give the media the satisfaction. He would rather lose with this coaching staff than do what the media and experts say he should do!
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 9:57 PM
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Oh, my Lord how many times do we have to hear about Deshaun and Trevor? We had 3 really, really good teams and the 81 and 18 were probably great because they did not lose. All our greats from 81 are about 60 years old now and can't play. All our greats from 16 are gone, many to the NFL, and can no longer help us.
I got tired and stopped reading after you got to the ridiculous 55-0 junk. We are a good team but have limitations. Just because we won it all 3 times does not mean we will ever win another Championship. Our record this year, so far, and for the 10 or so years show we most certainly do not have bad coaches. If our coaches were bad, we would not win all the games we win with the talent we have.
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Ignorance is bliss!
Nov 12, 2022, 10:34 PM
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Our limitation‘s are 100% because of Dabo. He won’t use the transfer portal. He thinks culture is more important than objective outsiders bringing fresh ideas to the coaching staff. Last year and this year we were good enough to be in the playoffs. We have the talent to be in the playoffs right now. But we’re not because of coaching. Our biggest weakness right now, is Dabo.
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Re: Ignorance is bliss!
Nov 12, 2022, 11:14 PM
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You are a dumb f uck. Please go to bed.
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Again, personal attack with no foundation.
Nov 13, 2022, 1:56 AM
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If I’m dumb as #### it should be easy for you to prove me wrong since you think you’re such a genius. You’re the one being emotional. You’re the one making the personal attack. So prove me wrong. I’m listening.
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 9:58 PM
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I agree with you, look at the coaching experience on the staff at schools other than Clemson. We are getting by bc we play less talented teams. He go rid of Napier way back when, he needs to do the same with Streeter
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 10:23 PM
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Team is okay…… because of poor schedule….. teams we play are subpar…. When we made deep CFP runs, we were putting 50+ points up…. Now we win against bad teams by less than 7…. Look at OSU, Michigan, Georgia, TN, they play a team like Syracuse, GA Tech, Louisville, they score 50+…. Tigers are good team,best in ACC, that’s good, but not even close to CFP caliber this year….
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 10:22 PM
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You are a ###### and nobody is reading that #### book you wrote.
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Bless your heart!
Nov 12, 2022, 10:35 PM
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You mad bro?!
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Out of respect, "I’ll get crucified for this, but"
Nov 12, 2022, 10:22 PM
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Is as far as I got. The wall of endless text that followed kicked my a-d-d into hyperdrive. I'm sure it is a great blog befitting a (-30)63% pulser.
Chin up ol bird.
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Couldn’t give a #### about points and pulse.
Nov 12, 2022, 10:37 PM
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That’s for emotional children. That’s for little boys. Anyone over 14 should not care about those things just like they shouldn’t be wearing a jersey with someone else’s name on it unless it’s their child and they shouldn’t be asking college kids for their autograph. We live in a bankrupt culture!
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Couldn’t give a #### about points and pulse.
Nov 12, 2022, 10:49 PM
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Your rant says otherwise, little birdie. Got'em! LOLOLOL!
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Good Lord you’re not very bright.
Nov 12, 2022, 10:59 PM
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If I gave a #### about points & pulse I would post as if I were a member of the cult of Dabo or wore orange colored glasses. I think it’s incredibly immature and childish for grown men to care about these things. Just as it’s childish and ridiculous for a grown man to wear a high school or college kids jersey unless it happens to be his son. Same for NFL jerseys. Same for asking for autographs. I have never worn anyone else’s jersey but my own. And I stopped asking for autographs when I was 12 or 13 years old.
Nothing I have written is a rant. It’s 100% objective analysis with very little emotion.
There’s a term for people that attack me. Confession by projection!
Also, just as with Covid, politics, and other things on this board, if I was wrong you would post something factual to prove me wrong. But you can’t so you attacked me. You are the one being emotional. You are attacking someone because you don’t like what they wrote despite the fact that it’s 100% factual! Good luck with that!
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You have a lot of rants just in this thread alone.***
Nov 12, 2022, 11:11 PM
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You clearly don’t know the definition of a rant.
Nov 13, 2022, 2:01 AM
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My OP was near 100% emotionless objective detailed analysis of the football program. Little to no emotion at all. I didn’t even get upset about the beat down we took from Notre Dame. I don’t get upset about Clemson football anymore.
And none of my responses have been overly emotional nor attacks. Rationally pointing out to people the error of their attacks on me as unfounded and that they’re not providing any facts or evidence that I’m wrong.
But I do think it’s funny that so many people on here overreact I can’t handle someone voicing an opinion that pretty much all the experts agree with and tons of people on this board agree with. There’s a word for it. Wait a minute? Oh yes. Denial!
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Re: I don't know, but
Nov 12, 2022, 10:23 PM
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better than .81 winning percent, six conference championships, hopefully; soon to be seven, two National Titles, six playoff appearances, ten plus wins in twelve consecutive years, wins over coaches like Saban, Meyer, Stoops, Spurrier, and I don't know how many more renowned coaching names, 159 wins, and next year will have the most wins in Clemson Tiger football history. I'll take this kind of culture and coaching every day. Maybe changes need to be made, I'm not the man to make those decisions, Dabo is, and I feel sure if changes need to come, he will make them. He has made hard decisions in the past. All of the great coaches of the past; Bear, Hayes, name any, and they all went through tough times, although many people, experts included, wouldn't say a ten win season is a rough patch. All that being said; by now I would think he has done enough to earn our trust. We are very fortunate to have Dabo leading The Tigers, and until this program returns to the days of mediocrity, I will keep my faith in Dabo, and the way he runs the program.
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I don’t live in the past.
Nov 12, 2022, 10:43 PM
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I love Dabo. I’m thankful for what he has done for the program. He’s also the reason we’re struggling and not a playoff caliber team.
You remind me of people that never see anything bad in your children or the Democrats or Republicans if you vote that way. I’m actually not a negative person. I’m a very positive person. If you knew the slightest thing about my life you would know how positive and successful I am despite overwhelming odds. I’m also not emotional. I don’t live in the past. I live in the now and look to the future.
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Re: I don’t live in the past.
Nov 12, 2022, 11:22 PM
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And I don't live in the past either, but I'm not all for scrapping a successful operation because of a hiccup. I've found that doing that usually causes more harm than good. Read back, on what I wrote. I wrote nothing that attacked you, but because I stated my belief, and it didn't agree with yours, you become rude and somewhat insulting. Well, you know absolutely nothing about me, either. You certainly don't know how I've brought my children up, or how I live my life. You're right, I know nothing about you, or what a great success story you are, but this I do believe, after reading as much of your posts as I could handle; you are a negative person, and quite full of yourself. No, I don't know you, nor do I care to know someone like you. I would think I'd find you rather hard to stomach.
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A hiccup?
Nov 13, 2022, 2:08 AM
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Have you seen Clemson play the last two years?
And I’m sorry, where did I say we should scrap everything?
This is why people like you are so dense and obtuse. You have no reading comprehension and you don’t know a ####### thing about football.
I said I love Dabo. I love what he’s done for the program. But we clearly need some more experienced coaches from the outside that have a fresh perspective.
There’s a word for what’s happening at Clemson, it’s called groupthink! It’s called living in a bubble. Dabo is surrounded by Clemson alarms and personal friends who he is making rich so of course they’re going to say yes sir no sir and be incredibly loyal! It’s like nepotism.
Do you think for the last however many years his sons have been the best holders and that’s the best we could do?
We don’t use the transfer portal. We have more alumni on our coaching staff than probably any other team in college football. I would bet on that. We have no voices from the outside which is dangerous in any profession! And we promote Walkens more than any other program. Again, Dabo thinks he can take coaches and turn them into great coordinators and head coaches. Dabo thinks he can take walk-ons and turn them into NFL players. I’m sorry, but not everyone is Hunter Renfrow.
You and people like you on this board, on this forum, are in complete denial. You are blind to what’s happening on the football field because of your blind And cultish loyalty to Dabo.
If you really love Clemson, he would behave like a true friend, which means you don’t tell your best friend what they want to hear, but what they need to hear! You would be objective and honest. Not encourage and enable their bad or otherwise reckless behavior. That’s what friends do. That’s why people that love someone or something deep. They don’t bury their head in the sand and say everything‘s gonna be OK! Well the game has changed. It’s not the same game it was a few years ago. If you can’t understand that I’m sorry I can’t help you. Because you are brainwashed or in denial or completely ignorant of football or a combination of all of the above!
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Re:yeah, I’ve seen them play.
Nov 13, 2022, 3:07 AM
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Once again, and hopefully; you’ll get it this time, I never attacked you, and I never really disagreed with everything you had to write. All I meant was with Dabos record, he has earned the right to make the decisions as he sees fit. And because you didn’t like what I wrote you attacked me. Ive never considered myself a football expert, such as you obviously are, but I never considered myself dense or obtuse, either. However; the dumbest thing I have done tonight, is read what some self absorbed jack ### has to write. I’ll let you have the last word, you’re very tiresome.
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 10:31 PM
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If you are a Clemson fan then I’m a Chinese spy. Never heard of a real fan, and I do mean a true fan speak like this. Why don’t you go and find a team with a coaching staff (what did you say suck) that does not suck.
I’m not real happy with the team right now but I feel part of it is because I have been spoiled since Dabo has been here. Someone gave Dabo a chance most people thought was crazy. I believe he also gives other’s opportunities as well. If it’s broke it will get fixed but the coaching staff does not suck. 2 are first year coordinators. Right now the talent we have is good but not what we have had in the last few years.
Talent makes coaches look really good and I would say our last 2 coordinators had some of the best ever to come through Clemson.
Again if it’s broke it will be fixed. Dabo does not like to lose and surely would not put anyone on his staff that sucked.
Some said Napier was not very good but he was young and now with more experience seems to be doing ok.
Dang I hate to hear anyone especially one from a so called fan say our coaches suck, but pretty sure the main issue here is that your team is currently a dumpster fire so this post gives you some kind of satisfaction.
Well I call BS you are no Clemson man.
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Talent is more important than coaching. Fat!
Nov 12, 2022, 10:45 PM
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I graduated from Clemson in 1988. Grew up playing on the hill in the 70s and went to football camp in 78 and 79. I would’ve played football and ran track at Clemson if not for a car accident in high school. I have very close ties to Clemson.
I think it’s hilarious that people think anyone that dares to be objective or constructively critical can’t possibly be a Clemson supporter much less a graduate. That’s cultish behavior. That’s psychosis. That’s being brainwashed!
Good luck with that!
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Errr.. Fat! Fact. smh***
Nov 12, 2022, 11:00 PM
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Unfortunately it’s not just with Dabo.
Nov 13, 2022, 2:11 AM
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Our players our students our administrators our coaches etc. are all perfect and can do no wrong according to these people. They think gamecock fans are delusional! some of these people seriously need to look in the mirror. It really is cultish behavior!
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 10:47 PM
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He does this all the time. Knows more than anyone on here and the coaches. Has to be right because he said he was right. Several times. If you disagree he says you’re stupid or a liberal. SSDD.
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You know I like you. You’re a good guy.
Nov 12, 2022, 11:05 PM
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And I’ve never attacked you or said anything bad to argue and I’ve often agreed with what you post. Really surprised by this comment. Because I am right. If I was wrong you would prove me wrong. If I was wrong all the people on here attacking me in this thread with state something factual besides emotions. You’re posting an opinion. You’re basically attacking me. If I’m wrong prove it. It should be easy. If all you people think I’m so dumb and so delusional it should be easy to post something that makes me look wrong that proves me wrong. But no one ever does that because they can’t!
I’ve been calling out the Democrats and the left for years on here. All they do is attack me because they know I’m right. All they do is get emotional.
I was posting from day one the BS that was Covid and the way the government and the left was behaving. Now we know 100% of white the government and the media and other people wanted us to think was a lie and they knew it was a lie and it was all BS and anyone with two brain cells I can think critically new that way back then. Also all you have to do is know elementary statistics to look at the data and also know that it was all BS.
I’m not always right. But I am most of the time. I’m right about the politics. I was right about Covid. I’m right about this football team! If I was wrong people with an attack me. They would simply post something factual and shut me up. But you and they cannot!
By the way, not only have I seen a bunch of turkeys and deer on Edisto and Johns Island as we discussed in the past, I saw at least a dozen turkeys on James Island just off of Folly Road last week.
Too bad you couldn’t remain civil because I’ve never done anything to you. Clearly you’re emotional and not the objective adult I thought you were. Oh well! People disappoint me every day. Seems to be a contagion in today’s lost backwards society!
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Re: You know I like you. You’re a good guy.
Nov 12, 2022, 11:27 PM
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You are right that we have agreed many times. You have also called me a liberal when I disagreed with you and that is about as far from correct as you can be. What I generally disagree with is your approach. You almost certainly won’t find me telling anyone they suck. That is an purely emotional, childish insult completely devoid of facts. I enjoy discussions and respect different opinions. I simply said you resort to name calling and calling people liberals when they disagree with you and politics hasn’t even been part of the discussion. If you can prove me wrong on that, have at it, but you have to look no further than this thread to see it happen. It appears to me that you don’t treat others the way you expect to be treated.
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 10:36 PM
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I’m only going to point out that we don’t have significantly more talent than Notre Dame. The 247 total team index has us 5th and Notre Dame 10th. But we were much closer to Notre Dame than to number one. Also, this new staff is nowhere near the highest paid anymore. We’re paying roughly 40% of what we were paying Elliot and Venables.
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Per usual you don’t have very good reading comprehension.
Nov 12, 2022, 10:55 PM
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I bet you think the Democrats won on Tuesday. The Republicans took the house and picked up more governor seats, turn Florida deep red, put to rest the political careers of a handful of people that are terrible candidates, but loved by Democrats and the media. Yes there were some bad candidates among the Republicans. There were even worse candidates by the Democrats.
But the Republicans did in fact win on Tuesday. They’re going to take the house with a comfortable margin I still might win the Senate, and gained governorships. In fact it proves something else. Republicans far more than Democrats vote split ticket. Democrats are vote blue no matter who regardless of how poor the candidates. Only media hype leading into the election makes people think the Republicans didn’t win. Six months ago the media and the Democrats what a card home with their tails between their legs with the results we have right now! This is just the left trying to spend the results. And contrary to what the media is reporting, trumps favorite candidate won overwhelmingly. A few of them lost high profile races. But those were in very blue states with low information voters voting blue no matter who! Pennsylvania even elected a Democrat that’s dead! Democrats are idiots!
Herschel Walker would’ve won if not for a libertarian that took 2% of the vote. He’s a terrible candidate. But Warnock is just as bad if not worse!
So all you have is emotions. You never have facts in your favor!
And I think some of the other recruiting services show us having considerably more talent than Notre Dame. But even you show that they are not loaded with as much talent as us. Close. But still a significant difference. And they have a first year coach and a second string quarterback they can’t throw the ball. Despite all of that we got curb stomped! Because we are poorly coached with awful fundamentals and we don’t play with discipline.
So thanks for proving me right!
And if you go back and reread my post I mentioned that our staff is not as highly paid as it was just a few years ago. But it is still one of the most highly paid staffs in all of football because of Dabo and assistant coached making well over $500k. And I specifically mentioned that our payroll is down a little because we have new coordinators. But make no mistake we are still one of the most highly paid coaching staff! Not as high as we were, I said that in the OP, and explain why, but we’re still right up there near the top. I guarantee you we are still in the top 10 quite possibly top five.
Again. Work on that reading comprehension!
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Re: Per usual you don’t have very good reading comprehension.
Nov 12, 2022, 11:06 PM
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Take a pill bro. That’s quite a mishmash of completely inaccurate nonsense. Just trying to give you a tiny bit of perspective on two smaller points in your op. If you want to live in fantasy land where your imaginings equal reality that is up to you.
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Blah blah blah yada yada yada
Nov 12, 2022, 11:08 PM
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More words. More personal attacks. Nothing of fact or substance.
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Mind your blood pressure, man. Breathe.Set the WebTv down.
Nov 12, 2022, 11:06 PM
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Just cause you keyboard 'worried' yourself into a corner, does not mean we want you to stroke out, puddin.
PS
Honestly I'm not reading these long posts of yours.
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I’m emotionally fine.
Nov 12, 2022, 11:10 PM
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Clearly you are not. You are emotional enough to make a somewhat personal attack despite admitting you don’t really read what I write and you’re the one that’s emotional. Gotcha! Good luck with that!
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See? You went from 20 paragraphs to only 3 sentences.
Nov 12, 2022, 11:22 PM
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That's it buddy. Easy does it. I'm glad I could help calm your ### down. I gotta go now. Don't be sad, puddin.
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Wow! Talk about someone deluded and narcissistic.
Nov 13, 2022, 2:13 AM
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Again, if I’m so wrong if I’m so crazy, prove it. Why am I getting wrong? Oh wait. That’s right. You don’t know because I’m not wrong. You just don’t like facing facts.
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Bless your heart!***
Nov 13, 2022, 2:14 AM
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TLDR***
Nov 12, 2022, 10:38 PM
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But yet you commented anyway.
Nov 12, 2022, 11:07 PM
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Ignorance is bliss!
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Letterman [257]
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Indeed. The crazies like you are the type of entertainment
Nov 12, 2022, 11:19 PM
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I enjoy here. I don’t ever get exposed to loonies like you in the real world, it’s entertaining to see it here.
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Freshman [-99]
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Once again a personal attack
Nov 13, 2022, 1:52 AM
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With no foundation. If I’m so wrong if I’m so off my rocker it should be very easy for you to prove it. But people like you never do because you can’t!
And if you never meet crazy people in this country you’re living in a box or a bubble. Just look at what’s been going on the past five or six years in politics in the last three years because of Covid. You clearly live under a rock!
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Orange Blooded [4468]
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 10:39 PM
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You need something to do
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Freshman [-99]
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I’m actually quite busy and don’t post very often.
Nov 12, 2022, 11:12 PM
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Clearly it bothered you. You went out of your way to post on something being emotional not me. I made an objective analysis of the football program. Most of the experts and lots of high school football coaches I know and most people I know that aren’t on this website agree with me. People that have a couple of functioning brain cells and a little bit of critical thinking skills and objectivity know I’m right. So does everyone else because they can’t prove me wrong. That’s why all you do is attack me personally!
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Orange Blooded [2013]
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Sounds like you had a lot on your chest.
Nov 12, 2022, 11:05 PM
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Do you feel better now?
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Freshman [-99]
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I was fine before I posted. .
Nov 12, 2022, 11:13 PM
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I made a simple rational objective critique of the program but people don’t like the truth. Clearly you’re among them. Good luck with that!
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Freshman [-89]
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Re: I was fine before I posted. .
Nov 12, 2022, 11:16 PM
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You ignant brah. You're embarrassing yourself. I bet you won't post your real name.
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Freshman [-89]
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Re: I was fine before I posted. .
Nov 12, 2022, 11:17 PM
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You ignant brah. You're embarrassing yourself. I bet you won't post your real name.
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Freshman [-99]
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Nice English there bro
Nov 13, 2022, 2:19 AM
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I hope you didn’t graduate from Clemson we don’t need graduates like you making us look bad.
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Freshman [-99]
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Actually I have posted my name in the past.
Nov 13, 2022, 2:24 AM
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I’ve posted all sorts of personal information on here in the past. Plenty of people here know who I am because I lived in Johnstone F Annex from fall of 84 till spring of 88. My roommate was a wrestler. The wrestling team was on the fifth floor the soccer team was on the first floor and I was friends with all of them. My two best friends from high school play football at Clemson and I would’ve played football and ran track if not for a car accident. I have a cousin that was a professor and I am a family friends with Colonel Jordan and Dr. Harder. His wife and my dad grew up together. She grew up right down the street from me. So did Colonel Jordan. I’ve known both of them my entire life. I have other ties to Clemson as well. Grew up running on the hill playing on the hill in the 70s. With the football camp in the late 70s. Clemson is the only school I applied to.
And I would post my name now but it would only #### off the powers that be because when I’ve done it in the past they deleted the thread and put me in time out for a couple of weeks. Which is weird because if I wanna give out personal information I don’t know why anyone would care. Clearly they do for whatever reason! If I’m not scared why should they be?
By the way, what’s your name? If you’re going to ask me mine, you should give yours. Kind of a cowards move to be honest.
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110%er [5133]
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 11:24 PM
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Some great points. Dabo knows what the problems are and I'm confident he will fix them. He's not perfect, he makes mistakes.
When he hired his coaches he believed it was the right hire. He will evaluate and make corrections where needed.
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Freshman [-99]
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This is a different Dabo than years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 2:28 AM
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If he makes changes I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong. But do you seriously think he’s going to get a new offensive or defensive coordinator in the off-season? Seriously? I know you can’t believe that because we all know it’s not gonna happen. Dabo thinks he’s smarter than the media and the experts. He knows DJ can’t take us to a championship and he should be playing Cade during these games to get some experience. But he’s too loyal to DJ and wants to prove the media wrong! Dabo is arrogant and stubborn! If it happens I’ll be the first to say I was wrong. But I don’t believe it’s gonna happen until we take some more ### whoopins’ and even the cult of Dabo Will no Longer be able to deny the program is in decline!
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 12, 2022, 11:24 PM
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I quit reading your post when you we were not as talented as TA&M. Shameful.
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 13, 2022, 12:04 AM
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The OP is arrogant AF. It’s quite unattractive BUT I actually agree with your original post. I spoke with a friend recently who I haven’t talked to in a long time. He went to Clemson and grew up in that area. He knows people in the athletic dept and several have told him they don’t like Dabo because he is arrogant and stubborn. He also commented that he also doesn’t like that Dabo hired “yes men” as his assistant coaches.
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Freshman [-99]
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So you agree that I am correct
Nov 13, 2022, 2:38 AM
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That my OP was spot on.
But I’m arrogant?
I’m not arrogant at all. I know I’m right. They also which is why I am dismissive of people that make personal attacks because it’s just like with politics it’s just like with Covid people know they are wrong people know they are brainwashed with propaganda they can’t see the facts in front of them they are simply in denial. or just don’t want to admit the truth. So yes I dismissed them. Because I know I’m right and they are wrong.
I’m not the one attacking them. They’re attacking me. They’re saying I’m unhinged I’m stupid I don’t know what I’m talking about, but they never ever post a single fact that I get wrong. Because they can’t.
You have no idea what I’ve been through in my life yet I am successful and I don’t put up with BS from anyone especially not brainwashed people in a cult, which is exactly why these people are!
I guess you would rather me just make the OP and then let people attack me and not have a little bit of fun with them or point out that they’re doing nothing but making personal attacks which makes them look bad because if they’re so smart and I’m so dumb why can’t they post anything that proves me wrong?
And I couldn’t care less what these people think of me. I can count on one hand the opinions that matter to me. And none of them are on this board!
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Orange Blooded [2603]
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Re: So you agree that I am correct
Nov 13, 2022, 9:10 AM
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Yes I agree with you on your original post. I’ve been coming to Clemson games since the early 70’s and graduated in 1987. We had season tickets and I still do. We went to many away games and bowl games in the 70’s and the national championship in 1982 I’m Miami. I get it. I’m a long time fan. I am also a woman so I may see you differently than most on here. I’ve always loved football and love my tigers.
You started your post with the comment that you knew your post would be unpopular. As you see, IT IS. AGAIN, I agree with you on Clemson these days. I really like Dabo and think he’s a fine man. He’s also apparently stubborn and very loyal which is a fantastic quality to have but in this case it’s catching up with us.
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Freshman [-99]
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Actually right now we are not.
Nov 13, 2022, 2:31 AM
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Over the last 6 to 8 years we have only been behind Alabama, Ohio State, and Georgia with talent. But you should go look at the recruiting classes Texas A&M has had the last three years. They have more talent than we do. This is not an opinion this is a fact that you can look up with all of the recruiting services online. They had the number one recruiting class last year. Almost every recruiting class Jimbo has had at Texas A&M has ranked higher than Clemson. Again, this is not an opinion. It is a cold hard fact per 24/7, rivals, ESPN, etc.
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Freshman [-99]
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Actually right now we are not.
Nov 13, 2022, 2:32 AM
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Over the last 6 to 8 years we have only been behind Alabama, Ohio State, and Georgia with talent. But you should go look at the recruiting classes Texas A&M has had the last three years. They have more talent than we do. This is not an opinion this is a fact that you can look up with all of the recruiting services online. They had the number one recruiting class last year. Almost every recruiting class Jimbo has had at Texas A&M has ranked higher than Clemson. Again, this is not an opinion. It is a cold hard fact per 24/7, rivals, ESPN, etc.
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 13, 2022, 12:09 AM
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If there is one thing you couldn't be more wrong about is that you are objective and rational. Happy when you are angry about something? Dead on.
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Freshman [-99]
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What did I get wrong?
Nov 13, 2022, 2:41 AM
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Show me where I am irrational. Show me where I’m not accurate. Show me where I’m getting it wrong. Otherwise you’re doing nothing but insulting me and making a personal attack. If I’m so wrong prove it.
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Standout [304]
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For someone so mature and unaffected by
Nov 13, 2022, 1:56 AM
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The current state of affairs, then you shouldn't have spent more time being defensive of yourself and your opinions. Very ironic, but I can't tell if you are the pot or kettle
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Freshman [-99]
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Well first I’m not posting opinions.
Nov 13, 2022, 2:44 AM
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I posted an objective analysis of the football program. If you think I’m wrong then what did I get wrong? Stop insulting in attacking me and state exactly precisely what I got wrong in the OP.
And I’m enjoying myself. Isn’t this what you’re supposed to do on a forum? Argue debate enjoy yourself? Am I missing something?
I’m not forcing anyone to comment. I’m not forcing anyone to be emotional. But I do challenge people that attack me. I challenge them to prove me wrong.
I mean if they take it so personal or if it bothers them so much what I post why do they go out of their way to attack me? Why don’t they just shut me up by proving me wrong? Because everyone knows that’s the fastest way to shut someone up. Prove them wrong.
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Re: Well first I’m not posting opinions.
Nov 13, 2022, 8:08 AM
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Lowcountry please just walk away before someone invokes Godwins Law. I played on the hill in the 60s. I’ve seen BAAAAD football at Clemson. My time in school in early 70s could quite possibly have been the worst in history. 3 wins and a cloud of dust. Most guys under 30 know nothing of that kind of football at Clemson. Dabo is the best thing to happen at CU athletics in my lifetime. I’m just gonna trust in him to make the right calls going forward. It’s not blind loyalty and I don’t live and die with it like I used to either. That comes with age.
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Letterman [281]
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 13, 2022, 4:10 AM
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FWIW, I think your OP and most of your follow on posts were spot on!
Objectivity isn’t a bad thing! Thanks for the brutally honest insight Low Country Tiger!
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Agree!
Nov 13, 2022, 8:20 AM
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In one word, Clemson Football has gone stale.
If changes aren't made to update the offense, educate the players on how to deal with NIL so it isn't a distraction, and start using the transfer portal we will return to mediocrity.
Dabo used to be cutting edge and innovative. It got lost somewhere around TL's sophomore year. We have to get that innovative spirit and motivation back if we expect to stay elite.
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Orange Blooded [2351]
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I think Lowcountry TiLDeR has started the post
Nov 13, 2022, 8:27 AM
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Here that will take all time top honors for total word count from op thru the 100+ replies, mostly his. No comment on where any one is right or wrong here, just woke up to see this monster that grew over night. Guess the site will be adding some server space lol!
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All-In [25017]
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one of the most unhinged people I have ever seen
Nov 13, 2022, 8:30 AM
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on any forum and that is certainly saying something with everything that is out there.
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 13, 2022, 8:45 AM
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I’m not reading all of this
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 13, 2022, 8:45 AM
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That was absolutely correct and well said. But count on it they are going to label you a traitor and that is sad because you are correct! I keep saying as an avid Clemson fan ,adjustments have got to be made in the coaching staff and in key positions including the quarterback position on our team.
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 13, 2022, 9:41 AM
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You must understand 1st and most of all, we have a lot of die hard Tigers here on Tiger Net that just don't want to hear the truth, especially right after we just won a game, and they would rather just ignore the hard truth, at least for this week.
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110%er [8619]
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Question for the mods
Nov 13, 2022, 10:52 AM
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When this crazy person gets banned again, and we all know it's inevitable, what happens to this post of the day? Does it get vacated like the 2009 ACC championship or will it fall to the first runner up like in a beauty pageant?
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110%er [6982]
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Re: I’ll get crucified for this, but
Nov 13, 2022, 11:14 AM
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I love the part where people on Tiger net throw in “I could’ve played college football, etc. etc.”. As this is somehow gives the poster credibility. I mean, I could’ve played soccer at Clemson too if I were a better player lol.
I’m all about results, and It’s hard to argue with 9-1. Am I crazy about Dabo’s hires? Absolutely not. But I’m not paid $10 million a year to make these decisions.
I’m not gonna pretend like I know a lot about football, I’m a casual fan. I played a little bit but not at a high level. I do however have an acquaintance who is an ex player, his opinion of the situation is Clemson has all their eggs in the DJ basket, and he’s not the player they thought he was. If they lose him, then all they have is an inexperienced Cade and other guys who really can’t play. It doesn’t matter what play you call if the quarterback can’t execute. Has the blocking dropped off? yes it has. And that squarely on Dabo. I expect him to fix it. That said, if this teams ends up being 13-1 with the quarterback play that we’ve been getting, I think it’s a masterful coaching job.
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All-In [34486]
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Whether OP is right or not, judging by this thread
Nov 13, 2022, 4:26 PM
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is there any doubt that the guy is criminally paranoid and insane?
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