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With time to kill: A look ahead...
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With time to kill: A look ahead...


May 7, 2013, 2:01 PM

We're coming up on a bate of games that the Tigers should win ... and if we wish to host a regional, we'd BETTER win. But will they be enough?

As usual, the answer lies elsewhere. A handful of teams are positioned nicely to host regions, and alas, many are also in the South.

Here, in a nutshell, is how things could work out ... assuming Clemson wins the games it should and goes into Tally at 38-15:

Our competition: Figure that eight of these teams will host supers, so they really aren't competition at all:

Likely Supers

UNC, Vanderbilt, Virginia, LSU, Oregon/Ore. State, Fullerton, FSU/NC State, Louisville/UCLA

Note: FSU and NC State could easily fall to region hosts, allowing both UCLA and Louisville to super. That would make the region-centric folks very happy ... and avoid the 2 supers within 30 miles of each other that UNC and the Wuffies would bring.

Assuming all those would at least host regions, that leaves 5 more spots. The major competition for those: Clemson, UCS, Miss State, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Arizona State, Indiana, Rice and Pitt.

20 hopefuls for 16 spots looks pretty good. Miami and GTech seem to have played themselves out for now, and only a strong ACC showing (like reaching the finals) could bail them out. Ditto Florida in the SEC.

The large question is, will the ACC be given 5 of the 16 regions? UNC, UVa and FSU look pretty solid, and the Wuffies are a mortal lock for at least a region. That leaves Clemson as the best remaining ACC bet.

Would the SEC get 5 bids? If so Vandy and LSU are mortal locks for the Supers, leaving Miss State, UCS and Arkansas.

Alas, that leaves 6 spots for the rest of the country, and the NCAA isn't likely to go there. So .... I'm betting either the ACC or SEC gets dumped on. If Clemson wishes to remove any worry of being the dumpee, we must take the series in Tally. this would work especially well if the Noles can take the series this weekend at the Wuffies.

Assume the Noles take 2-3 in Raleigh this weekend the Atlantic Division would stand FSU 18-9, Clemson 17-10 and NC State 16-10. With series loses to both FSU and Clemson, the Wuffies would be a non-factor, and if Clemson took 2-3, we'd hold the tiebreaker on both Atlantic foes.

A 40-win, Atlantic division, Top 12 RPI, Top 6 SOS Clemson could not be ignored.

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Great write up, thanks!


May 7, 2013, 2:07 PM

40 wins would be a great season.

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May 7, 2013, 2:09 PM

I hope we can do it!

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A few other key points


May 7, 2013, 2:14 PM

Many people do not think of the conference tournaments counting toward who gets to host Regionals and Supers.

Depending on who gets the 8th spot in the ACC tournament, 7 of the 8 teams should be top 25 in rpi. This means any wins in the ACC tournament on a neutral site will look great to the selection committee.

Assuming we win the 6 that we should, I say any combination of 3 wins between at FSU and ACC tournament(as long as we get swept in neither) gets us to host a Regional. That puts us at 41 wins and a top 12 rpi. That is hard for the committee to rule against.

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Correct, the Top 8 ACC RPIs ...


May 7, 2013, 2:34 PM

...and the top 8 is pretty set ... are all Top 30. Maryland, which likely will get left behind, is another Top 25 team.

With the screwball format, every team is guaranteed of 3 more Top 25 games. Go 2-1 and even if we don't make the finals, it would be 20 wins against Top 50 competition.

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Re: Correct, the Top 8 ACC RPIs ...


May 7, 2013, 2:45 PM

This is one time the weird format might help us out.

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Neurtal site unless you are UNC or NC State***


May 7, 2013, 3:26 PM [ in reply to A few other key points ]



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Re: With time to kill: A look ahead...


May 7, 2013, 2:25 PM

Rev you are forgetting about the NCST vs UNC rain out. That eliminated the tiebreaker. If NCST drops the series at FSU 1-2 but goes to Duke and sweeps they are 19-10. Clemson would then have to sweep FSU to get to 20-10, winning the series 2-1 only gets to 19-11 and a half game behind NCST.

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You are correct


May 7, 2013, 2:27 PM

but in his scenario I can't imagine being second in the division is going to matter a whole lot. With the rpi and 40 wins we would be set up very nicely.

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Gaaaah! You're right!


May 7, 2013, 2:28 PM [ in reply to Re: With time to kill: A look ahead... ]

@#$@#$@#@@!!

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Re: Gaaaah! You're right!


May 7, 2013, 2:31 PM

No worries even the Rev makes a few mistakes from time to time.

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Yeah he accidentally had a curse word in a post earlier


May 7, 2013, 3:36 PM

today. Just shows he's human like the rest of us.

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Re: Yeah he accidentally had a curse word in a post earlier


May 7, 2013, 5:01 PM

so - The Rev can use curse words in t-net and they don't look like #$%^????? Go Rev.

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Well he has powers that I don't have. Namely the power to


May 7, 2013, 8:20 PM

edit his posts.

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How the league does not force them to make-up....


May 7, 2013, 3:29 PM [ in reply to Gaaaah! You're right! ]

a conference game that clearly has post-season implications and ramifications is beyond me.

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Because the ACC rule is...


May 7, 2013, 4:51 PM

once you start a series, you have three days to play it.

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Which is just one more foolish rule imposed by the ACC.***


May 7, 2013, 5:45 PM



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Don't they figure in attendance numbers too?


May 7, 2013, 5:21 PM

I know UNC, GT and UVA hardly draw flies but Clemson's numbers seem way down too. All the tv games the outfield seating has been bare.

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Re: With time to kill: A look ahead...


May 7, 2013, 7:40 PM

I think we need to sweep the remaining regular season to host

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