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Moment of clarity: The reason Clemson is better than USC
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Moment of clarity: The reason Clemson is better than USC


Apr 6, 2006, 4:10 PM

We've heard em all: tater, farmer, goat and cow references... all to help feed their inferiority complex. Even the most delusional USC fan in his heart of hearts knows Clemson holds the edge in every head to head category that matters.

While walking around our beautiful campus today it occured to me that behind this stupid stereotype is actually the reason why Clemson is so much better than Carolina. There is a reason why everyone at Clemson is having or has had the time of their life... its the small town atmosphere that we all enjoy.

Its about (1) seeing familiar faces, (2) knowing the City of Clemson IS Clemson University, (3) authentic tradition built on winning with names like Heisman, Howard, and Ford, (4) cheering on players like McFadden, the Perrys, the Bostics, Bulter, Cone, Allen, Fuller, Simmons, Adams, and too many more to name (5)THE MOST EXCITING 25 SECONDS IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL... its pride and tradition you cant find in Columbia.

There is a sense of pride at Clemson everyone who has ever been apart of it feels. You instantly fall in love with the campus and the small town atmosphere... it truly does become a part of you. Its why tailgating is truly an experience to look foward to in anticipation of a tiger victory and not a glorified block party. Also... isnt it ironic that a well fed, clothed person is making fun of agriculture? Simply put... its why we're better.

Next time someone called you farmer... be proud and know why.

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Well written. I nominate for best post of the day!!!***


Apr 6, 2006, 4:13 PM



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Lotta people feel taking your hat off to sing the


Apr 6, 2006, 4:19 PM

"Star Spangled Banner" is corny, but it is tradition.

Many feel that manners are not important anymore, but they are tradition.

Clemson is more old school ("2001" as opening music for your entrance? Please.) than USC, and the '##### are a little guilty about it.

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Apr 6, 2006, 4:33 PM

NM

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Point for the Green Acres reference.***


Apr 6, 2006, 6:35 PM



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One wonders why everyone doesn't clamour to


Apr 6, 2006, 4:39 PM

get into Clemson.

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- The man of a million handles.


Most USC students knew they wouldn't be accepted***


Apr 6, 2006, 4:42 PM



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Honestly, where did this academic arrogance come


Apr 6, 2006, 4:50 PM

from? You guys have a whopping 38 point higher average SAT, probably a third to a half of the number of students, and are about $1500 more expensive. Where in the world did you get the idea that 38 points puts you among the intelligentsia in the country?

Lord, gimme a break.

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ruh roh...here it comes


Apr 6, 2006, 4:52 PM

;)

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Don't get an attitude just because....


Apr 6, 2006, 4:53 PM [ in reply to Honestly, where did this academic arrogance come ]

you weren't Time's Public College of the Year.

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If they are from SC they more than likely know plenty of


Apr 6, 2006, 4:54 PM [ in reply to Honestly, where did this academic arrogance come ]

like myself who got accepted to both schools, and chose to go to one or the other. They are simply sqezzing the life out of 38 points. LOL.

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Apr 6, 2006, 4:58 PM



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Where's the thumbs down when you need it. Who said their


Apr 6, 2006, 4:55 PM [ in reply to Honestly, where did this academic arrogance come ]

was any arrogance? We're just a dumb cow college! Why would anyone want to go to CleMPsun? Where we drive our tractors to school? What arrogance are you speaking of?

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I've said it before and I'll say it again:


Apr 6, 2006, 4:56 PM [ in reply to Honestly, where did this academic arrogance come ]

NEVER in my life have I heard of ANYONE going to Clemson because they got turned down by South Carolina.

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I agree. It is kind of like you never saw a person flunking


Apr 6, 2006, 6:09 PM

out in a liberal arts major (no offense to anyone) changing majors to engineering/science. I knew A LOT of folks that did the reverse.

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Becasue the lions share of the best and the brightest...


Apr 6, 2006, 4:57 PM [ in reply to Honestly, where did this academic arrogance come ]

HS students in South Carolina are choosing Clemson over South Carolina. No one is suggest that $CU doesn't offer a student the opportunity to obtain a good education, but Clemson is better...PERIOD. The Princeton Reviewm, US News, and every other national publication who tracks such things always ranks Clemson significantly higher than South Carolina. Harley had a great post on this very issue a few weeks ago including ALL of the statistics to support this position. You should ask him to repost it.




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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


The original point was not that Clemson has been ranked


Apr 6, 2006, 5:00 PM

higher, it was that "most USC students wouldn't be accepted"...and that is incredibly arrogant given the pretty comparable statistics between the two schools. So I reiterate...Gimme a break...and add...get over yourselves already.

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Mike, I can give you at least 35 examples of those


Apr 6, 2006, 5:53 PM

who flunked out of Clemson and got out of Chicken Scratch U. w/a 3.0. That's just during my 3 years of exposure.

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I've been wrong two times, but this isn't one of them.


Re: Wrong:


Apr 6, 2006, 5:13 PM [ in reply to Honestly, where did this academic arrogance come ]

2005 #s
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Clemson Undergrad. Population: 13,396
USC Undergrad Population: 16,461

Carolina is a grand total of 15% bigger among students for whom an SAT average is calculated. It is CERTAINLY not 2-3x as big.



http://www.clemson.edu/admission/community/demographics.htm
http://www.ipr.sc.edu/enrollment/prel2006/spring/offs2006.htm

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I stand corrected. Clemson has grown over the years


Apr 6, 2006, 5:17 PM

then. But I think my original point holds true regardless.

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Re: Yes, it does. I just tire of posts that get the


Apr 6, 2006, 5:18 PM

population #s wrong.

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Re: (No offense)***


Apr 6, 2006, 5:18 PM



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None take, thx.***


Apr 6, 2006, 5:19 PM



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Lets take out Athletes and see what the Avg is and how big


Apr 6, 2006, 5:22 PM [ in reply to Honestly, where did this academic arrogance come ]

the gap is then.

My mom works at the HS I went to and she said 50-100 kids out of a 400 kid graduating class apply to clemson each year and only 5-10 get in. 10 is very high an usually doenst happen. many of the kids that do not get in end up at usc or college of charleston.

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Clemson fans are smart enough...


Apr 6, 2006, 6:25 PM [ in reply to Honestly, where did this academic arrogance come ]

Not to go onto a rival's website and thump their chests.
Hmmm, maybe there are no gamecock messageboards.

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Re: Honestly, where did this academic arrogance come


Apr 6, 2006, 7:25 PM [ in reply to Honestly, where did this academic arrogance come ]

What do Carolina and Clemson students have in common? They were ALL accepted to USC!

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One also wonders why you spend so much time HERE...***


Apr 6, 2006, 4:51 PM [ in reply to One wonders why everyone doesn't clamour to ]



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I want to make sure I get my money's worth.***


Apr 6, 2006, 4:53 PM



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"Our wide receiver coach has accomplished just as much as your legend."

- The man of a million handles.


True


Apr 6, 2006, 4:55 PM

i would just never spend money to be a part of my rivals board.

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Well... it started as a lost bet. It has continued out of


Apr 6, 2006, 5:05 PM

respect for the quality work that Crump and Company do. But hey... I like to show appreciation for a job well done... that's just me. I'm sure you have great reasons for not donating.

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"Our wide receiver coach has accomplished just as much as your legend."

- The man of a million handles.


Poimt for "touche" response....


Apr 6, 2006, 6:41 PM

I don't know about comparable GPA's and all that stuff, I barely made it out of 291 U ...but I do remember 1st and 35...

had to make you pay for that point ;)

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Exactly! Go Away!***


Apr 6, 2006, 4:56 PM [ in reply to One also wonders why you spend so much time HERE...*** ]



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Very, Very Excited. Very, Very Proud.


More get rejected than down at Bull Street U.***


Apr 6, 2006, 5:51 PM [ in reply to One wonders why everyone doesn't clamour to ]



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I've been wrong two times, but this isn't one of them.


One wonders why a gamecock spends everyday on....


Apr 6, 2006, 6:22 PM [ in reply to One wonders why everyone doesn't clamour to ]

a Clemson website, obsessed with Clemson.
Oh thats right, because SC websites, athletics, etc, are BETTER.
Nice butt kissing job last night, by the way!

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Because as great as it is....


Apr 6, 2006, 6:47 PM [ in reply to One wonders why everyone doesn't clamour to ]

Clemson isn't for everyone. Some people may not like the small town atmosphere or may want to major in something Clemson doens't offer. Maybe someone is misguided enough to actually WANT to go to SC and doesn't see the error of his or her ways. I used to work with someone who was a cheerleader for SC during the 63-17 debacle and before it was over, she was pulling for Clemson. She subsequently got smart and transferred.

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I just have to ask you....


Apr 6, 2006, 7:34 PM [ in reply to One wonders why everyone doesn't clamour to ]

you claim you don't flame on this board. You claim to mostly give complimentst to Clemson. So why the hell did you have to bash a perfectly good post with your attitude? This is a Clemson board and we are proud of the University. So go back to being "the nice coot" as you so often try to make yourself.....pffft

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Apr 6, 2006, 4:51 PM



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Very, Very Excited. Very, Very Proud.


Re: Moment of clarity: The reason Clemson is better than USC


Apr 6, 2006, 6:48 PM

that just about covers it. well defined article

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