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Orange Blooded [2025]
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For all complaining about the Tournament Format.....
May 28, 2011, 6:08 PM
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All we had to do was win........... stop whining and complaining. We always control our own destiny......... if we dont win when it counts, we have no one to look at but ourselves. Stop being Cootish.... let's just win and let that do our talking!
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All-In [29037]
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Who has said otherwise?
May 28, 2011, 6:10 PM
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Of course your sentence does ignore the fact that in pool play we ended up with the same record as the team who won the pool. That means they weren't perfect either.
Its a screwy setup and it seemingly is trying to fix something that isn't broken.
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Die-Hard [8977]
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And what you ignore...
May 28, 2011, 6:54 PM
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is the fact that the team that tied with Clemson actually BEAT Clemson on the field, so they were better.
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Orange Blooded [4988]
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So what if UNC beats UVA tonight and then in
May 28, 2011, 7:00 PM
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a 3 way tie, UVA advances. Except UNC beat them and has the same record. Your logic says UNC is better, yet they don't get in.
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Die-Hard [8977]
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No, because in the case of a three-way tie...
May 28, 2011, 7:16 PM
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I believe regular season record becomes the tie-breaker and Virginia won the division. Nice try though.
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Orange Blooded [4988]
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Nice try? What does that mean?
May 28, 2011, 7:22 PM
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The regular season, outside of seeding, shouldn't have anything to do with tournament play. You just said that FSU "actually BEAT Clemson on the field, so they were better" but when it comes to a 3 way tie, UNC beating UVA doesn't matter (even though it was the 4th straight time) b/c UVA won the division? I know what the rules are of the tournament, but that doesn't mean that it's fair or good for baseball. Quite frankly, we've tried it and it is not that good!
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Orange Blooded [2073]
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Huh? We know how it works according to the ACC rules...
May 29, 2011, 12:42 AM
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He was using your own logic against you and he is right. Some of us just do not agree with the format and tie-breaker policy as we feel it is flawed.
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Orange Blooded [2073]
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Re: And what you ignore...
May 29, 2011, 12:34 AM
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And what YOU ignore is the fact that the team that tied with Clemson lost to NCSU on the field, so by your logic, NCSU was better. So why isn't NCSU playing UVA in the title game?
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Orange Blooded [4988]
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This tournament is not a permanent thing.
May 28, 2011, 6:14 PM
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People who don't like this format need to help push to get it changed!
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Re: For all complaining about the Tournament Format.....
May 28, 2011, 6:14 PM
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"All we had to do is win"
Thats funny....because i could have sworn FSU had to do the same and they lost to a team we beat.
This argument of "all we had to do is win" is such weak sauce. Not one team in our pool won out. NOT ONE.
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Devotee [216]
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Re: For all complaining about the Tournament Format.....
May 28, 2011, 6:31 PM
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The team that is advancing beat the team they were tied with. They did settle it on the field.
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All-TigerNet [12237]
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Re: For all complaining about the Tournament Format.....
May 28, 2011, 6:35 PM
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We beat NC State
FSU beat us
NC State crushed FSU
That was absolutely not settled on the field
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Devotee [216]
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Re: For all complaining about the Tournament Format.....
May 28, 2011, 6:40 PM
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Florida State 2-1
Clemson 2-1
We played all the teams in our side. Its not like we didn't all have common opponents. We lost to the winner of the bracket, I don't see the issue.
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All-TigerNet [12237]
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Re: For all complaining about the Tournament Format.....
May 28, 2011, 6:41 PM
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The winner of the bracket also lost to the team we just beat.
This "tournament" determined absolutely nothing.
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Devotee [216]
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Re: For all complaining about the Tournament Format.....
May 28, 2011, 6:49 PM
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That scenario could easily happen in double elimination as well
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All-TigerNet [12237]
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Re: For all complaining about the Tournament Format.....
May 28, 2011, 6:55 PM
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In double elimination we will still be playing and face FSU in the next game.
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Orange Blooded [2073]
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That fact cannot be denied!***
May 29, 2011, 12:50 AM
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110%er [6321]
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It most certainly was settled on the field....
May 28, 2011, 6:54 PM
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FSU won when they needed to win. We didn't. Nor did NC St. I don't like the format, but it is what it is. We owned our own destiny and blew it. As did NC St. FSU owned their's and won it.
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All-TigerNet [12237]
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Re: It most certainly was settled on the field....
May 28, 2011, 6:56 PM
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FSU did not win when they needed to. They got a break from us beating NC State.
You make it sound like they knew when to win and when to lose.
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110%er [6321]
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That is not what I said....
May 28, 2011, 7:13 PM
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We had our chance. And if you want to say fsu got a break, you could say we got a break when NC St beat fsu and put our own destiny on our own hands.
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Orange Blooded [4988]
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but once again look at the other pool
May 28, 2011, 7:17 PM
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If Miami beats Wake and UNC beats UVA and it will be a 3 way tie with 2-1 teams and UVA advances. How is that fair?
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Die-Hard [8977]
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Because UVa had the best record...
May 28, 2011, 7:22 PM
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during the regular season. How is that so hard to understand and how is it not fair? Should regular season record not mean something?
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Orange Blooded [4988]
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Yeah it should, for seeding purposes.
May 28, 2011, 7:24 PM
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Conference tourneys are supposed to be a fresh start and give everyone an equal chance to win. The ACC does not do that. How hard is it for you to understand?
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CU Medallion [55491]
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Re: For all complaining about the Tournament Format.....
May 28, 2011, 6:55 PM
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Don't we all wish it was just that simple!!!
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Orange Blooded [3559]
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It's still a dumb format
May 28, 2011, 7:13 PM
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I have never seen anything like it in my life...making our guys play for nothing. You lose, you go home....if you win, you still go home
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