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All-In [37023]
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What does it tell you about the "Fans" on this board?
Nov 15, 2010, 10:21 AM
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When a post wanting us to lose badly to Wake Forest and the Coots(Seriously,Our Freaking Rival) gets 30 positive Votes?
Are these really Clemson Fans? I hope not!!! I think/thought Clemson Fans were better than that.
If that is how you really feel leave!!!! Go pull for the Coots to win the SEC and hang out with those "winners"!!!
Just don't come back when things turn around!!!
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All-In [30593]
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2 things...
Nov 15, 2010, 10:27 AM
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1. I'm a Tiger fan
2. I will probably pull for UCS over AU...
sue me
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All-In [45047]
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Me too, get a few more and they could class action sue us***
Nov 15, 2010, 10:52 AM
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All-In [45047]
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I am kidding, I could NEVER pull for SCU!***
Nov 15, 2010, 10:53 AM
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Orange Blooded [2020]
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Who would want to sue you?
Nov 15, 2010, 7:39 PM
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You obviously have no zeal for the team and no brains to pull for our instate rival to win a conference championship. nothing to sue man. keep it to yourself
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Rooter [222]
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Re: What does it tell you about the "Fans" on this board?
Nov 15, 2010, 10:29 AM
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As a Gamecocks fan, I gotta tell you I never saw this kind of vitriol on the forums when we were 1-10 and 0-11. It's a pretty bad state to WANT your team to lose to your RIVAL. Even in the worst years, if I could pick one game to win, it would be Clemson, hands down. So I wish I could say I feel your pain, but I've never dealt with fans wanting to destroy the program, or wishing it destroyed.
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Orange Blooded [3637]
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it was there...
Nov 15, 2010, 10:33 AM
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just like it is over here, a very small minority will take a short term beating if it means long term changing the coach and being successful.
But it happens all over and it's always a very small %.
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Re: it was there...
Nov 15, 2010, 10:38 AM
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> just like it is over here, a very small minority will
> take a short term beating if it means long term
> changing the coach and being successful.
> But it happens all over and it's always a very small
> %.
If only 5% of Clemson's fanbase can see the writing on the wall that Swinney sucks, then Clemson has one of the more pathetic and passive fanbases in all of sports.
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Orange Blooded [3637]
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hey hey...
Nov 15, 2010, 10:39 AM
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I want the entire offensive staff gone yesterday.... but I also want us to detonate Wake and SC.
Those two aren't mutually exclusive.
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Rock Defender [54]
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But you knew your admin was committed to winning no matter
Nov 15, 2010, 2:59 PM
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what, and hiring Holtz then Spurrier and letting then get any kid in school and run programs with no discipline shows how desperate USC is to win.
We hired a position coach that wasn't even in coaching 5 years earlier!
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Re: What does it tell you about the "Fans" on this board?
Nov 15, 2010, 10:31 AM
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The program is almost destroyed already. And the fans weren't the ones who destroyed it.
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Orange Blooded [3473]
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I for one
Nov 15, 2010, 10:41 AM
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Have been against the Dabo hire from day one. But I will not pull against Clemson in any game and that goes double for the USC game. Never accuss me of pulling against Clemson, I would love to ruin Carolina'a year like they did us last year. but i don't know how we can beat them. I think USC will kill Clemson! that does not mean I hope it happens, it is just obeying logic instead of passion. They match up with us and beat us in every catagory. they have a better defense, a better offense, and a better kicking game. They have a seasoned QB with great recievers. Only weakness they have is their defense is shaky vs the pass, but we don't have a passing game so there. i am hoping maybe some of that old time Clemson magic will show up and we pull off a miracle win.
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Virtuoso [612]
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If SCU can lost to Kentucky on the road
Nov 15, 2010, 3:45 PM
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They can lose to us on the road.
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CU Guru [1857]
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Come on, you know that TNET has been infiltrated by coots...
Nov 15, 2010, 10:34 AM
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posting that crap and then thumbing it up, all to try and influence recruiting. It has to be that, right? I mean real Clemson fans wouldn't do that, right? Right????
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I wish that was the case. Its not though.***
Nov 15, 2010, 10:37 AM
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All-In [49110]
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It tells you that a lot of people are fed up with
Nov 15, 2010, 10:37 AM
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seeing the same ###### play out year after year. I'm not in that crowd personally. I hope we destroy Wake and hang 70 points on South Carolina.
But having watched Clemson for 35 or so years now, particularly the last 10 or so, I've seen this story unfold over and over again.
If a person loves Clemson football and genuinely believes that Clemson football will never thrive under the current staff, it's really not that irrational for them to root for whatever has to happen to get the current staff out.
It's also not irrational to want them to win out, win a bowl game and head into next year with some optimism and see if finally we can get over the hump. It's possible even for these two extremes to have a sensible conversation about the state of the program without all the name calling and questioning people's loyalty.
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All-TigerNet [11934]
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The thought may be RATIONAL, but that doesn't make it RIGHT.
Nov 15, 2010, 10:42 AM
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You NEVER pull for your team to lose.
Never ...
Anybody claiming to be a Clemson fan who can entertain the thought of hoping the team loses ... ever ... is not worthy of being part of a sensible discussion.
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110%er [7913]
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Agree....now I will admit that I watch expecting us to lose
Nov 15, 2010, 10:44 AM
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while pulling for them at the same time...not quite the same though.
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Re: Agree....now I will admit that I watch expecting us to lose
Nov 15, 2010, 10:45 AM
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That is an understandable feeling.
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Re: The thought may be RATIONAL, but that doesn't make it RIGHT.
Nov 15, 2010, 2:40 PM
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Some people might be under the opinion that the team wins if the staff loses. To me there is a clear division between the team and the staff, I want the team to succeed and in the long run that means losing this staff that cannot develop and utilize the amazing talent we have. If that means we have to sacrifice the end of this season then so be it.
Clemson wins if the current staff loses.
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All-TigerNet [11934]
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Once again ... "rational" ... but absolutely wrong ...
Nov 15, 2010, 3:43 PM
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Nobody who is a Clemson fan EVER pulls for Clemson to lose.
If you pull for Clemson to lose in order to get rid of a coach, you might qualify as a FANATIC, but you are not a fan.
Spin it however you want.
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Rock Defender [54]
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(psssst: "fan" is short for "fanatic").***
Nov 15, 2010, 3:48 PM
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All-TigerNet [11934]
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Thanks ... brilliant as always
Nov 15, 2010, 4:48 PM
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Dang those Islamic religious fans ... what'r ya gonna do with'em?
So by your logic, suicide bombers are merely "fans" to whom killing innocent people is okay in order to achieve their goals?
I suppose by that definition, Clemson fans who are willing to support losing games in order to achieve the goal of getting rid of the coaching staff are indeed, fanatics.
Just like I said ...
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Are you seriously trying to argue that fan isn't short for
Nov 15, 2010, 11:33 PM
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fanatic?
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All-TigerNet [11934]
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I'm saying it doesn't matter.
Nov 16, 2010, 8:01 AM
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I'm seriously saying that fanatics who pull for their team to lose ... are not fans.
Are you seriously arguing that they are?
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How'd that work out for Clemson football?***
Nov 15, 2010, 6:58 PM
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20 years of frustration will do strange things to you
Nov 15, 2010, 10:38 AM
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I'm with you...never pull for a loss to get a result. This hire was not good and I'm afraid this is going to get even more ugly than this...if this staff goes into next year and we lose the Auburn game in the Dome it's going to spiral out of control like 1998.
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Re: 20 years of frustration will do strange things to you
Nov 15, 2010, 10:46 AM
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The Auburn game next year is in Clemson. In the Dome the year after.
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Some people should read this again***
Nov 15, 2010, 1:24 PM
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they may be fans, but they are idiots. we know
Nov 15, 2010, 1:40 PM
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many on this board only care about football, not the university or the student. they typically boo the player as well.
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Orange Blooded [4367]
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Re: What does it tell you about the "Fans" on this board?
Nov 15, 2010, 2:23 PM
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It tells me they are chicken fans. True fans would never pull for Clemson to loose. Wish there was some way to find out who voted and get them booted. By the way glad to see ConnallyTiger77 got the boot!!
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How do you know Connally was booted? And why?
Nov 15, 2010, 3:53 PM
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Re: How do you know Connally was booted? And why?
Nov 15, 2010, 11:10 PM
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Because of something I wrote in answer to one of his smarty remarks and when I went back this morning to see if anyone else had answered him ...the original quote by him was no longer on the board. Then I noticed he was not showing up on anyother articles from yesterday.
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Re: How do you know Connally was booted? And why?
Nov 15, 2010, 11:14 PM
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dont worry, connolly has several handles. he likes to come in, start junk then get one of his other handles to answer himself
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Re: How do you know Connally was booted? And why?
Nov 15, 2010, 11:16 PM
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Well then he must be a coot for sure!! That is really sad.
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Re: Yeah, kinda hard to do any serious smack talking....
Nov 15, 2010, 2:51 PM
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when your own fans are saying worse things than I ever would. Sheesh.
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Orange Blooded [2619]
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Anyone who pulls against Clemson no matter what the reason
Nov 15, 2010, 2:54 PM
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is not a Clemson fan so please go become a fan of some other team, we don't need you.
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Any parent will tell you sometimes tough love is needed!***
Nov 15, 2010, 2:56 PM
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that's your problem Blue Fatty...u're not really our dad....***
Nov 15, 2010, 5:56 PM
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Re: What does it tell you about the "Fans" on this board?
Nov 15, 2010, 2:58 PM
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There is a place for complaints and criticism... but hoping for losses is wrong. You never hope for a loss, EVER... especially to South Carolina.
That is like hoping you die so you can spend your life insurance money.
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Re: What does it tell you about the "Fans" on this board?
Nov 15, 2010, 3:01 PM
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"That is like hoping you die so you can spend your life insurance money."
Nice analogy...I agree.
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Rock Defender [54]
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I think we are sick and tired of being sick and tired
Nov 15, 2010, 7:03 PM
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especially with those who want to wallow in mediocrity!!
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Orange Blooded [3222]
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Re: What does it tell you about the "Fans" on this board?
Nov 15, 2010, 7:22 PM
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sounds like some people need a permanent vacation.
Go Tigers !!!!!
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Rooter [212]
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Here is why losing serves the greater good
Nov 16, 2010, 2:11 AM
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Listen bub, the reason some people, including myself, wouldn't mind so much if Clemson lost out is simple. It has to get much worse before it will ever get better. We all saw Tommy cling to his job way longer than he should have. Nobody wants another decade of that crap. Losing out gets the hot seat even hotter for Dabo. Maybe just maybe, he gets the boot and we get a real coach that offers HOPE and can move things FOWARD not backward.
It is similiar to the NFL fan hoping his team gets the number one over all draft pick. The season is lost, might as well get something positive out of the losing. Instead of a savior player in the draft, maybe we just hire a savior coach that can bring a ten win season and an ACC championship every once in a while.
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CU Medallion [53914]
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I don't put any stock in those votes. Heck , every coot on
Nov 16, 2010, 8:48 AM
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here probably voted for it.
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