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One rule I think the NCAA should bring back is...
Aug 21, 2019, 12:00 PM
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not allowing freshmen to play. With all the hype surrounding these recruits, I think there is pressure on coaches to play them too soon. On top of that, these kids come in thinking they are ready, when in reality they are not. This is a recipe for disaster, and we’re seeing it play out with the transfer portal. Sitting for a year gives everyone time to adjust, improve, and find out where they fit in on the team.
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I should’ve done this a long time ago
Aug 21, 2019, 12:07 PM
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Whoever gave this a TD...
Aug 21, 2019, 12:07 PM
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doesn’t understand college football.
Sorry, not sorry.
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Oculus Spirit [96870]
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I think we all know who gave this a TD..
Aug 21, 2019, 12:10 PM
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and you are correct, he doesn't understand college football
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All-In [40777]
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Will Muschamp does the Tnet?
Aug 21, 2019, 12:12 PM
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Re: Whoever gave this a TD...
Aug 21, 2019, 12:30 PM
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The majority of those who transfer have gotten beaten out by a better player, not because they did or didn't play as freshmen. We have always had players leave even back when we had the rat team because they saw they weren't going to play. Maybe it's you that doesn't understand college football.
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Heisman Winner [140537]
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The reason young players typically leave is because...
Aug 21, 2019, 12:45 PM
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they think they are ready to start as freshmen and don’t want to wait. So they transfer. How is that not understanding football?
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CU Guru [1639]
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Re: One rule I think the NCAA should bring back is...
Aug 21, 2019, 12:25 PM
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If you do this you have to change the scholarship limit. Without say 25 freshmen you are down to 60 scholarship players. Back when we had the rat teams we had about 120 on scholarship with 88 being sophomores Juniors Seniors and red-shirts. That's four deep on both sides of the ball. The rat teams were about that many also altho attrition took care of those who weren't going to make it. Scholarships were good for 4 years 5th year optional. So You go from 85 to 120 + on scholarship $$$$$$$$
The coaches know who is ready. Do you think we would have won the Natty last year without a true freshman QB?
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60 active scholarship players seems like more than enough
Aug 21, 2019, 1:10 PM
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The rules only allow each team to have 11 players on the field at one time. 60 is way more than 11, it's simple math.
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Re: 60 active scholarship players seems like more than enough
Aug 21, 2019, 2:59 PM
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Yea but with 60 our players would have been just as tired as Bama's players last year and they would have truly destroyed us. We need those extra 25 players to make up the difference in talent.
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You’re kidding, right?***
Aug 21, 2019, 12:29 PM
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Re: You’re kidding, right?***
Aug 21, 2019, 12:35 PM
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It's Francis Marion, dah!
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No. The number one ranked QB recruit in the nation...
Aug 21, 2019, 12:52 PM
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Justin Fields, is a prime example of exactly what I’m talking about.
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Re: One rule I think the NCAA should bring back is...
Aug 21, 2019, 12:41 PM
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This is an outstanding idea!
I think to add to this, the freshmen should be approved to join the XFL for one season while they redshirt so their skills don't get rusty and they can make a little cash.
Then they will come back to the team ready to perform as sophomores.
This solves the pay-for-play issue and keeps freshmen from getting the big head about their recruiting rankings coming out of high school.
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Unfortunately, I can’t take credit for the idea.
Aug 21, 2019, 12:47 PM
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People a lot smarter than us at the NCAA came up with this year’s ago.
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I think it's a great idea, the other benefit of this rule is
Aug 21, 2019, 12:53 PM
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it would encourage players to stay for 4 years instead of just playing their first 3 years and going to the NFL.
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Re: I think it's a great idea, the other benefit of this rule is
Aug 21, 2019, 1:18 PM
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But they would be gone after the 3rd year anyway unless they change that rule too - money talks to most players more than school,,,,, I did say MOST.
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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The data says otherwise. I took a quick glance through
Aug 21, 2019, 1:24 PM
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statistics from before freshmen were allowed to play and the overwhelming majority of players stayed all 4 years. If you have any data disproving this I would be open to it.
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Re: The data says otherwise. I took a quick glance through
Aug 21, 2019, 1:27 PM
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Let's see your stats first.... if you go way back in time guys actually went to play ball just to get the degree so 4 years was standard ….... and if you are talking "majority" over 51% of players aren't likely to have a chance to be drafted after 3 years so they do stick around 4 so that makes your claim correct.
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CU Medallion [53786]
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Yeah, and back in the day they didn't get a half million dol
Aug 22, 2019, 7:55 AM
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signing bonus as 3 round pick..
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Re: The data says otherwise. I took a quick glance through
Aug 21, 2019, 1:52 PM
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But I’m the days you are talking about you couldn’t leave in 3 years and become and instant millionaire like the kids today. The ### has burst and the money is flowing. You tell us how to stop it!
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Drafting 3rd year players........
Aug 26, 2019, 7:50 AM
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.....is completely unrelated to what the colleges or the NCAA wants to happen. The rule that allows drafting college players after 3 years is an NFL/Players Union rule. It seems more likely to me that the NFL will begin to draft players earlier rather than later. If the NCAA unilaterally decides to impose a ban on first year players, the colleges will lose those players after only 2 years of play.
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I think you just solved the problem.***
Aug 21, 2019, 8:32 PM
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Re: One rule I think the NCAA should bring back is...
Aug 21, 2019, 12:53 PM
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Why don’t to look back at Oklahoma RB’s Marcus Dupree, Hershel Walker, George Rogers from the early 80’s then look in our own backyard. TL, Frank Ladson, Nagasaki, , Tee Higgins, and I am sure if I did my research I would find several more players who started and had a major impact in regards to their success.
Why would you want really talented freshmen to sit for a year. What if Trevor Lawrence has sat last year would we have won the NC??
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Heisman Winner [140537]
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Hershel Walker & George Rogers did not play for Oklahoma.
Aug 21, 2019, 12:56 PM
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I don’t think I'll be able to have a serious football conversation with someone who doesn’t know that.
No offense.
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To be fair, I wouldn't expect
Aug 21, 2019, 12:58 PM
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a Winthrop grad to understand big time college football.
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Now wait just a minute - I have a degree
Aug 21, 2019, 1:23 PM
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from Winthrop (or two) and football is in my genes
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We really don't want to know
Aug 21, 2019, 1:36 PM
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what's in your genes
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Oculus Spirit [82066]
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Speek four yo seff.
Aug 21, 2019, 1:58 PM
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I originally spelled "jeans" but knew I could
Aug 21, 2019, 2:07 PM
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count on at least one of you guys to make the correction.
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Oculus Spirit [96870]
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So happy you didn't have the disappoint***
Aug 21, 2019, 2:08 PM
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Re: To be fair, I wouldn't expect
Aug 21, 2019, 1:37 PM
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You know GWP I could TD you and Francis but then I would lower myself to your standards.
I am proud that I graduated from Winthrop, but that makes me no less than a Tiger fan than you or Francis. Personally IMO to bully people behind a screen name is the act of a coward. Honestly, it does matter where you went to school, you can still be a diehard Clemson Fan!
Based on the way you and Francis think of what a true fan is , if you pull for a pro team to be a true fan you either have to live in that state or you would have had to have played for that team.
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Oculus Spirit [96870]
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Your TD% is 18% so you appear to be lowering yourself
Aug 21, 2019, 1:39 PM
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to someone's standards.
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Oculus Spirit [82066]
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Standards are overrated.
Aug 21, 2019, 2:00 PM
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That's why I don't have any.
#fightconformity
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Only 37%...much better than Crump***
Aug 21, 2019, 2:22 PM
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CU Medallion [50859]
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But you still didn't tell me where you
Aug 21, 2019, 2:34 PM
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go to see that statistic.
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Oculus Spirit [96870]
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Hover your mouse over your Tiger Pulse -- you will see the
Aug 21, 2019, 3:23 PM
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TU and TD %. Not sure if you can see if on mobile.
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Heisman Winner [140537]
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That just means we would only have some of these talented
Aug 21, 2019, 1:14 PM
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kids playing for us for two years instead of three. No Thanks.
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You just broke my sarcasm meter***
Aug 21, 2019, 1:17 PM
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Oculus Spirit [82066]
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Opening this thread be like.........
Aug 21, 2019, 1:28 PM
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Re: One rule I think the NCAA should bring back is...
Aug 21, 2019, 1:30 PM
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Yeah, last year would have been great with Kelly Bryant as the starting QB all year.
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Ending freshman eligibility is a bad idea.
Aug 21, 2019, 3:34 PM
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1. Good players typically get good coaching before they finish high school. The kids who are talented come to school now more fit and more ready to play than was ever typical in the past.
2. As long as the NFL takes players 3 years out of high school, it would be foolish to not allow the best ones to play as freshmen.
3. Players who are less than uber talented, or who lack the strength or size to play as first year college students almost always play a very limited amount as true freshman. Most of the time the coaches and the players recognize who should redshirt and who is ready to play, especially at the bigger schools.
4. If the NCAA passed a rule ending freshman eligibility, the Power 5 leagues would quit the NCAA and start their own organization.
5. Trevor Lawrence. (Making a player like Lawrence sit would be unethical, immoral and should be illegal.)
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At least now we finally know the TRUE identity of FM.
Aug 21, 2019, 9:23 PM
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This loser.
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Re: One rule I think the NCAA should bring back is...
Aug 21, 2019, 9:59 PM
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So, our 5 stars would only play 2 years. Does not seem real good to me.
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Re: One rule I think the NCAA should bring back is...
Aug 21, 2019, 10:32 PM
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DW would not have injured his knee and finger if this had been the rule. Why can't people see that the physical risks for these freshmen outweigh the benefits???
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Re: One rule I think the NCAA should bring back is...
Aug 22, 2019, 6:03 AM
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Kind of selfish of me, but I enjoyed watching Lawrence and Ross play last year. I have a feeling Ngata will be fun to watch this season. Of course Sammy Watkins made things exciting, and so forth, etc, etc ....
I trust our coaches to make good decisions about if a freshman is ready to play.
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Re: One rule I think the NCAA should bring back is...
Aug 22, 2019, 9:54 AM
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But think about the career Watson could have had if not for those injuries. What could have been....
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Legend [19694]
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The rules should also be amended to allow for
Aug 22, 2019, 7:38 AM
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Tear away jerseys, helmets without facemasks, and all players required to wear those huge thigh pads. Oh, and stick-um. We need legalized stick-um again
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Re: One rule I think the NCAA should bring back is...
Aug 22, 2019, 9:23 AM
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I understand this is a discussion topic but 100% not ever going to happen.
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Re: One rule I think the NCAA should bring back is...
Aug 26, 2019, 8:00 AM
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I really hope you’re joking about this. You do realize Justyn, Trevor, and XT were all true freshman last year. There would have been no National Championship without there contributions.
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