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Z Pickens- Clemson players “just fade away”
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Z Pickens- Clemson players “just fade away”


May 31, 2018, 8:15 AM

Interesting read on what he thinks about Clemson, Muschamp recruitment, and being compared to the Clown. Sorry if German


http://www.goupstate.com/sports/20180526/pickens-credits-muschamp-for-landing-his-commitment

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May 31, 2018, 8:19 AM

He misspoke - he meant Clemson players "cycle out" - just like they keep cycling out of the regular season with a Playoff bid. And Draft status.

Bless his heart.

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Re: Z Pickens- Clemson players “just fade away”


May 31, 2018, 8:23 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7sNSduf7Gc

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We will be loaded with players in the NFL thriving over...


May 31, 2018, 8:23 AM

the next 6 years. We're well on our way now. We just turned the corner a few years ago,

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Re: Z Pickens- Clemson players “just fade away”


May 31, 2018, 8:24 AM

Kids can go anywhere they want but that excuse is pure idiocy:

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2017-09-07/colleges-most-represented-2017-nfl-opening-day-rosters

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Re: Z Pickens- Clemson players “just fade away”


May 31, 2018, 8:29 AM

He either wants to be the big fish in a pond or pond scum. Having a time deciding which is which

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May 31, 2018, 8:46 AM [ in reply to Re: Z Pickens- Clemson players “just fade away” ]

Great link, and I agree - go where you want but at least sound intelligent about it. He may as well have said something like "I chose Florida because its not as warm as SC and it never rains there."

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When a not-so-sharp-recruit says something like this


May 31, 2018, 9:48 AM [ in reply to Re: Z Pickens- Clemson players “just fade away” ]

it's because the coach told him that.

Those words are straight from their staff.

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May 31, 2018, 11:08 AM [ in reply to Re: Z Pickens- Clemson players “just fade away” ]

Look at how many players from Florida made it to the NFL despite the poor coaching they received from the Will MenstralCramp staff.

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May 31, 2018, 11:42 AM [ in reply to Re: Z Pickens- Clemson players “just fade away” ]

That list just shows what a crappy job Muschump did with all the talent he had at FL. Silly coots!

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Pickens is the one that will fade away.***


May 31, 2018, 8:28 AM



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Re: Pickens is the one that will fade away.***


May 31, 2018, 8:37 AM

In other words, he didn't want to compete with Xavier Thomas, KJ Henry, Justin Foster, and Justin Mascoll for playing time.

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Re: Pickens is the one that will fade away.***


May 31, 2018, 8:46 AM

Right, if you go to Clemson you're actually going to have to work for the opportunity to play. At USuCk he can start right away and live off his talent.

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Don't Gamecock football teams just fade away year after year


May 31, 2018, 8:40 AM

?

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No..


May 31, 2018, 9:30 AM

They'd have had to have a bright spot to begin with to fade away.

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Re: Z Pickens- Clemson players “just fade away”


May 31, 2018, 8:49 AM

And Coot players get drafted about 1 player every other year.

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Is that how he meant it? It's not very clear and the interviewer


May 31, 2018, 8:59 AM

didn't ask him to clarify.

It certainly does seem like the implication though which means muschamp had been feeding that pitch to him.

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May 31, 2018, 9:19 AM

Yeah, they just fade away alright - that's why we had 3 that could easily be getting a huge paycheck come back because they just want to "fade away". Keep talking big boy... we'll see. Oh, and we just had two stud bball players refuse a check too to come back to Dear ole Clemson... How'd your "new" school fare with that also - hmmm not too well did ya.

Bye Zach, we'll make sure to wave to you when we're in the playoffs and you and Josh already back from the Belk Bowl!!!!

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My interpretation is that Muschamp has been telling him


May 31, 2018, 9:48 AM

"Yeah they have all of these great defensive lineman over there, but what have they done in the NFL? Nothing, they just fade away once they leave Clemson."

I think that's BS for several reasons, but it wouldn't surprise me if that's the line Muschamp fed him.

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Re: My interpretation is that Muschamp has been telling him


May 31, 2018, 11:06 AM

Hmmm...wonder where Clowney was when this happened?
https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2017/1/1/14141852/vic-beasley-leads-nfl-in-sacks-2016-season
https://www.tigernet.com/update/Photo-Vic-Beasley-with-his-NFL-sack-trophy-26437

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May 31, 2018, 9:24 AM

Wanna talk about "just fade away"?

Seems to me, Clowney (the greatest hs player in last 40 years) hasen't exactly been a world beater in the NFL Oh yeah, and there's that little thing called his last year with the Ol' Ball Coach. Remember?
Even his coach said some unflattering things about him work ethic.

Good thing Pickens (and his mom) will have Josh Belk to help motivate him.

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May 31, 2018, 9:34 AM

Oh that’s a good one!!!

So glad he enjoyed their spring game. He and the other 5000 fans. Had to be absolutely electric.??

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After seeing pic of his Mom..


May 31, 2018, 9:34 AM [ in reply to Re: Z Pickens- Clemson players “just fade away” ]

No offense but i do see a woman who could be adamant, strong bearing, maybe even a bit pushy in getting her way, etc.

So, I can’t see Coach Mustrat getting the upper hand on her perceived strong will personality unless she was a Coot Lover from the get-go..and then the two of them molding the Son towards ColumbiA for various reasons..like instant playing time, big stardom, possibly whip the Tigers and from what I saw written that she wasn’t all too friendly or happy towards Clemson.

OK, move on since it’s just one pretty dang good player we liked.

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Saying Clemson DL “fade away” may be more ignorant than saying we don’t have a Chick-Fil-A.


May 31, 2018, 10:31 AM

It’s just such a dumb thing to say.

We have, by my count, 11 DL drafted in the past decade, and four in the past five years. We are sure to get three or four more next year. There are eight Clemson Tigers currently on an NFL roster as a DL.

I count five from SC in the last decade and only Clowney in the past five years. There are two SC players currently in the NFL listed as DL. One is Clowney and the other is Marquavius Lewis. And no one would argue that SC “developed” Clowney, or even that his NFL career has lived up to its potential (at this point). Lewis is an UDFA who hasn’t played.

As others have said, I don’t fault a kid for going somewhere else, but if you do, don’t throw jabs at a program whose coaches no doubt recruited you in good faith...but if you must take a jab, don’t be so laughably wrong. Two minutes in front of Google would show you how ignorant that comment is. And as someone else said, it sounds like something the SC coaches put into his head. If that’s true, how embarrassing to both their coaches for having to lie and to the recruit and his family to just believe it.

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Re: Saying Clemson DL “fade away” may be more ignorant than saying we don’t have a Chick-Fil-A.


May 31, 2018, 11:16 AM

^ 9 if you count Beasley will be moving back to DE:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/college/_/letter/c
http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/article-1/Dan-Quinn-on-moving-Vic-Beasley-to-defensive-end-full-time-Back-to-what-he-does-best/9a7676d0-79f1-4f8b-9d13-191c9946ef67


Tavaris Barnes Defensive End
Vic Beasley Jr. Linebacker <--Moving back to DE per Falcons coach
Andre Branch Defensive End
Grady Jarrett Defensive Tackle
Jarvis Jenkins Defensive Tackle
Shaq Lawson Defensive End
D.J. Reader Defensive Tackle
Carlos Watkins Defensive Tackle
DeShawn Williams Defensive Tackle

And how many do those Muscoots have??
http://www.espn.com/nfl/college/_/letter/s
A big whopping 3!!! That's right folks....3!! Clemson has as many players in the NFL in his exact position (not counting Beasley moving back to DE) as they have in their entire amount of all linemen, regardless of position.

Both of them got scammed by Muschamp on who "fades". He'll figure that out in due time.

Jadeveon Clowney Defensive End
Marquavius Lewis Defensive End
Taylor Stallworth Defensive Tackle

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May 31, 2018, 11:21 AM [ in reply to Saying Clemson DL “fade away” may be more ignorant than saying we don’t have a Chick-Fil-A. ]

Well they do have that friggin Melvin Ingram on the roster out there in San Diego.
But still, they pale in comparison to us on the DL front as well as all other positions.

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Re: Saying Clemson DL “fade away” may be more ignorant than saying we don’t have a Chick-Fil-A.


May 31, 2018, 11:22 AM

Ingram isn't DL... He's a linebacker.

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May 31, 2018, 11:27 AM

Well he might be listed as a lb but, he was a DL at scar.


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Re: Saying Clemson DL “fade away” may be more ignorant than saying we don’t have a Chick-Fil-A.


May 31, 2018, 11:33 AM

I posted about beasley above...they've announced in February they are moving him back to DE permanently (which that's the position he was drafted for as well), so he's classified back as a lineman..the LB move was just temporary:
http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/article-1/Dan-Quinn-on-moving-Vic-Beasley-to-defensive-end-full-time-Back-to-what-he-does-best/9a7676d0-79f1-4f8b-9d13-191c9946ef67
https://thefalconswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/19/falcons-moving-vic-beasley-back-to-defensive-end-permanently/

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May 31, 2018, 11:35 AM

Saw that. My bad.

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Re: Z Pickens- Clemson players “just fade away”


May 31, 2018, 11:15 AM

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I believe Abraham Lincoln said it best when he said...


May 31, 2018, 11:27 AM

It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


looks like grade will be an issue. doesn't seem very smart***


May 31, 2018, 12:08 PM



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ROFL...how many times can you recall...


May 31, 2018, 2:34 PM

academic eligibility keeping a highly regarded recruit from attending $CU. It rarely happens.

They got Retardo Hurley, Derelict Watson, and Meathead Summer admitted.

They will bend the rules, create learning disabilities where none previously existed, to get anyone in.

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All I can really say is that


May 31, 2018, 4:10 PM

the guy was a USCjr commit all the way, and he's doing a little trash talking...getting a head start I guess. So all I gotta say is let's see if he actually can back it up.

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Re: Z Pickens- Clemson players “just fade away”


May 31, 2018, 4:16 PM

It's hard to know just exactly what he meant by that comment especially with his limited vocabulary.

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