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Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
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Aug 12, 2023, 11:57 AM
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Do we want to win, or do we want to lose? It all comes down to a couple of issues and realities. This election is there for the taking. Do you want 4 more years of Biden and his handlers, or the Dem they replace him with, or not? Don't be stupid.
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If pubs want to win they better get versed on
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Aug 12, 2023, 12:29 PM
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voter rolls and drop boxes.
Fetterman (can’t even speak a coherent sentence), beat a doctor.
Trump got more votes than in his first run, more votes than any GOP candidate ever, more votes than Obama; and lost to a brain dead pos that hid in his basement.
Y’all better get with the program.
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Believing that will guarantee another loss. Trump, more than
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Aug 12, 2023, 12:51 PM
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any presidential candidate in a long time, inspired voters to get out and vote. Unfortunately, many of those were inspired to vote against him. Trump's ignorance of that possibility is what cost him the election. Trump went to rally after rally on the campaign trail, all filled with rabid supporters who worshipped the ground he walked on. That fueled his already huge ego, and made him feel invincible. He thought he had it sewn up. Therefore, instead of trying to reach anyone in the middle, or anyone who may have been on the fence, he visciously attacked and attacked anyone who was not in lockstep with him, and gloated over the delight of the mobs who cheered him on. The result was a lot of people who normally would not have cared enough to vote despised him, or were convinced to despise him by a relentless dem effort, which included media cooperation and ground-up activism, and too many on the fence were uncomfortable with his shenannigans, and he simply got outvoted. If Pubs don't wake up, we'll get a repeat in 2024.
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Re: Believing that will guarantee another loss. Trump, more than
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Aug 13, 2023, 1:05 PM
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During IA State Fair, Ramaswamy touched on the ballot cheating in two oblique ways.
(No, he never said that Trump was cheated or that the drop boxes, ballot harvesting, etc were a form of election cheating.)
Vivek said:
(1) Any among the entire roster of Republican candidates can beat Biden (probably true if election cheating wasn’t rampant), but that the Republican margin of victory needs to be ~ 80%. (He ‘justified’ the 80% number as representing a bipartisan mandate that would reflect a desire among Americans for unity.)
(2). All voting should be done on Election Day. National holiday. Paper ballots only. Signature verification that can really be verified (as opposed to those touch screen ‘signature boxes’ in which illegible ballot signatures never look like on-paper signatures.
(1) plus (2) equal a nuanced way to acknowledge that election cheating is rampant, but to say nothing that could be directly construed as such.
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Re: Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
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Aug 12, 2023, 1:16 PM
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Republicans historically have had the best message. Any failings - historically - have been governing poorly.
Then in 2015 and the Republican message was changed to “Everyone is rotten except DJT” and - by extension - DJT’s followers. It got so bad that the Republican 2020 platform was never built; it became “Whatever DJT wants”.
So yes, the 2024 election is an election that can be won by the Republicans. Jettison DJT, explain it in the context of what America needs, explain it daily and go forth in victory.
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That's got be one of the most ignorant takes I've seen....
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Aug 13, 2023, 9:24 PM
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"In 2015" he was just securing the GOP nomination. ### are you talking about?
I despised the SOB and couldn't understand his nomination but then I saw what happened after he as elected.
You're either a Dem talking chit or a blind MF'er...
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Re: That's got be one of the most ignorant takes I've seen....
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Aug 14, 2023, 9:46 AM
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Yeah, remember in 2015 tons (half?) of established pubs were vehemently against him.
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Thinking there’s a 50% chance Biden doesn’t run in ‘24 ...
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Aug 12, 2023, 1:35 PM
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Trump can beat Harris but loses to any of the top Democratic governors. DeSantis position on abortion will be widely unpopular nationally. Youngkin, Haley or Scott would have greater appeal to independents.
Lot of time for things to change and to speculate….
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Newsome would be just as bad as Biden. Harris would be worse***
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Aug 12, 2023, 3:40 PM
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Shapiro, Whitmer … maybe Beshear. Younger voters could be very significant.
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Aug 12, 2023, 4:55 PM
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Newsome has some baggage and from Cali…
Thinking whichever party nominates a pragmatic non-Boomer and embraces a positive platform could carry Independents versus the other party’s same old, same old.
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You're right....There's a lot of ignorant Uni-Party sheep.***
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Aug 13, 2023, 9:26 PM
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Re: You're right....There's a lot of ignorant Uni-Party sheep.***
Aug 14, 2023, 6:42 AM
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Yes, and they still support Trump. Good call. You're coming around.
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Re: Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
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Aug 12, 2023, 2:34 PM
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I do agree that if Republicans want to win they need to moderate their position on abortion to it being legal up until 12-15 weeks which is in line with many other parts of the world. Then that makes Democrats who want to allow it up until and during birth seem like the extremists they are.
They also need to cheat, oops I mean start vote harvesting in whatever manner it takes to get millions of extra votes that never existed before, in order to match what the Dems are doing. Doesn't really matter what your message is if the opposition has a ten million vote head start on you before election day.
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Re: Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
Aug 12, 2023, 6:27 PM
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I don't even know where to start with this, only the first sentence has any basis in reality.
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Re: Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
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Aug 13, 2023, 1:07 PM
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If anyone other than me cared enough to validate your vapid political opinions, then you’d be making progress.
But I do care … enough to make this one post.
Have at it.
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People deciding which presidential candidate to vote for based on abortion,
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shows how ignorant a nation we have become.
“People of America, I know abortion rights are first and foremost in many of your minds. I encourage you to elect state representation that that aligns with your beliefs and convictions.
With that being said, I am running to be your President. To secure the border, to become energy independent, to cut taxes, to encourage domestic manufacturing, to provide the greatest national defense on earth.To Restore faith and confidence in the executive branch. And to always put America’s interests first in ALL international matters. Thank you!”
-Keowee Indians
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FYI we won’t be energy independent.
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Aug 12, 2023, 3:38 PM
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One, because companies like to make money, and will ship oil to whoever pays the most, whether they or in the US or elsewhere. Two, many of the big US refineries aren’t set up to refine US oil. So they would have to drastically change their facilities.
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You’d be right if you weren’t completely wrong.
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Aug 12, 2023, 7:41 PM
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“Most of the crude oil produced in the United States is refined in U.S. refineries” - eia.gov
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If you actually believe we have the refining capacity in the
Aug 13, 2023, 12:51 AM
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US to come close to our consumption, you're either stupid or not paying attention. We HAVE to import refined petroleum. HAVE to. It quite literally has nothing to do with how much unrefined crude we pull out of the ground, which, btw, is within a hair of pre-pandemic production. "Energy independence" is very, very different from being a "net exporter" of petroleum, and that's not a Trump or a Biden thing, unless you're a partisan hack.
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Why can’t we increase refining capability?
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Aug 13, 2023, 11:17 AM
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First of all, that isn’t what he said. He said that “we can’t even refine our own “, which is a straight up lie.
Now on to your ignorance. “We can’t refine enough for our demand.” No ###. Here’s why.
Because of regulations, taxes, and administrations that promise to “end” fossil fuels. You gd idiots with your “we can’t refine it all” act like America is actually trying to. So fkn stupid.
Additionally, if all of you fktrds would stop using fossil fuels like you promised, then demand decreases.
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Re: Why can’t we increase refining capability?
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Aug 13, 2023, 11:59 AM
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Dude, you just outright lied attributing a false quote to a poster above, which you then call a lie, which it is based on your straight up lie about what the poster said to begin with.
Who are you expecting to be taken seriously by?
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Certainly not you... LIAR! LIAR! LIAR! Try reading it again.***
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Aug 13, 2023, 9:32 PM
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Re: Certainly not you... LIAR! LIAR! LIAR! Try reading it again.***
Aug 14, 2023, 11:37 AM
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Show me this quote from the poster that Keowee posted that he cried 'liar' about, please...
“we can’t even refine our own“
Being a reactionary definitely has a negative impact on reading comprehension. Maybe you should take a few breaths before posting next time.
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We can refine our own, just not all of it. That's no reason
Aug 16, 2023, 3:51 AM
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not to drill and produce. If the govt. wasn't spending 100s of $Billions subsidizing everything to "Go Green", maybe we'd have our petroleum stockpiles back to proper strategic levels, Big Oil would invest in new refineries, and the economy could turn around. Right now it's chit.
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Re: Why can’t we increase refining capability?
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Aug 13, 2023, 1:31 PM
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How embarrassing that TNet has so many graduates of the Hunter Biden Energy Institute. They know too much to ever listen to you. Hunter wouldn’t like you, either.
Of course US refineries are set up to handle US sourced crude oil. US refineries are not all set up to handle each type of crude.
We have refineries which are set up to refine sweet crude. Others which are set up to refine sour crude.
As far as energy independence, that doesn’t mean that all US sourced crude oil must be … in times of non-crisis, be refined in American refineries. We export US crude oil. We import foreign crude oil. We refine US crude oil.
(1). In times of national crisis, we have enough crude oil to take care of our needs. That isn’t to suggest that we have enough production infrastructure in place at this moment to exploit our crude oil resources. You already explained that to the third graders on TNet.
(2). Our refineries could be expanded &/or modified to handle crude grades that they don’t process at this time. This wouldn’t happen instantly.
(*). Smart energy policy would have the USA taking steps NOW to deregulate the expansion of refineries, exploitation of currently unused &/or underutilized crude oil sources, and energy logistics infrastructure (with expanded + updated pipeline networks being a critical piece of the puzzle).
Energy independence is easily within our grasp. Got to convince the lefties to get off their azzzzes. That is the hard part.
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Dude, I'm not gonna say how or who, but these MF'ers have
Aug 13, 2023, 9:39 PM
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ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE! As to oil, open up Alaska and if you find it necessary, transplant some animals.
I got a little inside on this gig from decades ago... MAJOR Baytown facility and MAJOR US petrol CEO.
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Re: Dude, I'm not gonna say how or who, but these MF'ers have
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Alaska is of course a huge factor in the USA’s ability to be more than simply energy independent.
The fools who refuse for sake of supporting their thought leaders’ political narrative (or who are really to stupid to know about Alaskan oil) use the fact that Alaska has been grossly underutilized as an oil production region to equate that as being a factor in our (otherwise marginal) energy independence.
This is akin to having a huge freezer of frozen meat, vegetables, and fruit … but then saying that the household is deficient with food because dinner isn’t on the table.
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Between you and Keowee and SOLOS calling people idiots,
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Aug 14, 2023, 12:28 AM
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and THEN being so wrong about how oil actually works, and THEN not being embarrassed all to hell about it...fantastic.
That last MAJOR refinery in the US was built in 1977 (200,000 barrels/day). 46 years ago. A handful of smaller refineries have been built over the past decade, none topping more than ~45,000 barrels/day. Now...did Democrats cause this? Why didn't Reagan encourage more refinery construction and investment? He had 8 years. Why didn't either of the Bushes, both Texas oilmen, do the same in their 12 years? It's so strange...it's almost like those petroleum companies weighed the cost to build and maintain a refinery and the ROI vs. the projected decrease in consumption as fossil fuels were gradually replaced. Did government regulations play some part in that? I'm sure they were in the equation somewhere, but your dumb narrative that the oil industry was full steam ahead until BIDEN got into office and shut everything down is completely fabricated.
Some 6 or 7 domestic refineries have shut down since 2019, at close to a million barrels/day of refining capacity. Most were planned obsoletions, and most were fast-tracked because of the pandemic. And those oil companies don't have plans to replace them, because it doesn't make financial sense, not to mention they're already making record profits seemingly every new quarter. They pump and export domestic crude, and import refined petroleum from their subsidiaries and trading partners. That's how it's always been, at least for as long as you've been alive.
But really...refineries would be popping up everywhere if it wasn't for BIDEN, who has been singlehandledly sabotaging the industry for the past 45 years, apparently.
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I never stated it started with Biden but he DEFINITELY does
Aug 16, 2023, 4:00 AM
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all he can to thwart it. As to the rest of your argument... Globalism and shipping our industry overseas. You're right. That was greatly accelerated under Reagan. Then there's the subsidizing of the ethanol market and less efficient fuel.
Also, I didn't call anybody an "idiot". Somebody said I was lying. That's when I started the LIAR diatribe.
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And others can... so essentially, you said NOTHING!***
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You should stop while you're behind.***
Aug 14, 2023, 12:29 AM
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Re: You should stop while you're behind.***
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Refineries can be refit (not cheaply, but can be) to accommodate refine of new / different types of crude. That isn’t the first choice, but if facing extended periods in which domestic crude + domestic refining is necessary for satisfying all of our refined petroleum products requirements, then of course this can (and will) be done.
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I don't disagree, and if you can get enough voters to see it
Aug 12, 2023, 5:12 PM
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that way, great; but I don't think you can. That's the problem. A hardline, non-negotiable position on abortion is likely a losing position, right or wrong. All indications are that a moderate position, which will require compromise from many may be required in order to get elected. Either that or convince a whole lot of people (messaging) over the next year of something nobody has been able to convince them of over the past several decades.
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Start by moving the ball forward.
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Aug 13, 2023, 1:54 PM
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Censorship by most media outlets and communications platforms is the biggest problem for any politician to successfully disseminate a reasonable abortion policy.
The correct message is:
Pure ‘pro-life’ position will never be accepted by a meaningful majority.
Pure ‘pro-choice’ position will never b accepted by a meaningful majority.
Let’s move the ball forward. Stop trying to throw the touchdown bomb from 70 yards out when the game conditions are 40 MPH winds and a downpour. Get a first down. Sometimes not losing the game isn’t so bad. R v W was a no compromise position. The pro-choice crowd loved this unconstitutional ruling … until the constitution got enforced. Now we’ve got each side trying to throw touchdown bombs, they won’t get anywhere.
Move the ball forward. Abortion allowed up to 24 weeks. After 24 weeks, abortion is only allowable in the event of high medical risk to the mother. 24 weeks is ~ the phase when the fetus is viable outside the womb.
I think it is abhorrent to allow for late term abortions in the case of ‘illegitimate fetus.’ A 24 week fetus has right to life, regardless of who the father may be. Should babies of raped mothers be killed? No, and neither should this be the fate for viable fetuses. That said, this component would need to be ‘negotiated’ in a ‘move the ball forward’ approach.
(*). Media won’t allow for such a program to be openly and vigorously debated. Doing so would interfere with the biggest socially divisive issue on which incumbent politicians depend for reelect-ability purposes.
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Agreed - that's what I'm talking about
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Aug 13, 2023, 2:38 PM
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All abortions, up until birth, should be legal and totally up to the mother. Or
All abortions, for any reason, should be illegal.
The closer a candidate is to either position, the more unelectable they become. We know about where those limits are, and crossing them will pretty much disqualify any candidate. We know there is a range somewhere in the middle that most Americans feel is reasonable and acceptable. If winning the election is more important than this single issue, then taking a position that allows for something in the middle is necessary. On the other hand, if holding a hard line based on principle is worth 4 more years of Dems in the White House, then by all means do it. That is a very real choice that must be made.
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Re: People deciding which presidential candidate to vote for based on abortion,
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too many are still too fat and happy based on the benefits when the USA was a free country. Now that the socialists are taking over, these idiots who now care more about abortion than their standard of living will soon change.
But, it will be too late.
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Re: People deciding which presidential candidate to vote for based on abortion,
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Absolutely.
Abortion is an emotional issue, eclipsed only by the absurd ‘systemic racism’ trope. A sure sign of a low IQ voter is seeing her / him participating in a march, veins bulging from the neck, eyeballs bulging, and screaming about abortion. Long-past-their-fertile-years women are among the craziest. Plenty of young women and men also join this low IQ voter club.
Everything else to them is of no interest.
Until the benefits of American society to which they feel entitled erodes to the extent where their IQ light bulbs start to flicker.
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Re: Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
Aug 12, 2023, 3:24 PM
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Sort of reminds me of what I used to hear in pub circles about Dems - 'all they care about is winning elections.'
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I understand completely. For people who feel so strongly
Aug 12, 2023, 5:30 PM
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about abortion, are unwilling to compromise based on principle, I totally respect that. All I am saying, is that stand on that one issue may very well result in 4 more years of a Dem as our president, and everything that goes with it. It's a choice that has consequences either way.
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Re: I understand completely. For people who feel so strongly
Aug 13, 2023, 2:15 AM
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FBI effed with him
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And the CIA finished him.***
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Re: Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
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It’s just hard to believe that a nation on the verge of collapse will decide an election based on abortion. Very ignorant and pathetic bunch of voters.
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I want America to win. That doesn't mean a pub or a dem
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That means a good leader of people. It's not a clear thing at all. There are Dems and Pubs and average people who could run the US better than our last two Presidents.
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Re: I want America to win. That doesn't mean a pub or a dem
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The most simple and accurate comment that captures where (I believe) most Americans stand.
"That means a good leader of people. It's not a clear thing at all. There are Dems and Pubs and average people who could run the US better than our last two Presidents."
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To me the biggest problem Pubs will have in 2024
Aug 13, 2023, 11:09 AM
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is a result of how they responded in jurisdictions where they have absolute control over the mechanisms of government, and what they subsequently did with that power.
Forcing draconian abortion laws despite public sentiment opposed is one point addressed here.
Attacks on the freedoms of others that are not white, male, straight, and "Christian" is another. The culture war is not a winning formula for the majority of Americans who prefer others stay the hell out of their personal business and beliefs. Pubs have run wild with this where they have sufficient majorities in place in the right offices. Were that control to expand, the expectation is that personal freedoms would continue to contract.
The majority of Americans also don't believe that Pubs have cornered the market on Patriotism and love of country. Many see through this charade for what it is - an attempt to define each in terms of religious and cultural adherence, as well as owing fealty to a pathological lying criminal who in life and office defies both concepts. You can't hate so many people in America, as today's Pubs often share, and not hate America itself in the process. That presents another electoral problem for those not deep into the Kool Aid.
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You're so sucked up to the media spin, you don't have clue.
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Aug 13, 2023, 9:50 PM
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That, or you're just a paid influencer for the radical left.
"WHITE, male, straight, 'Christian'..." Go slob on one.
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TD for you
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Aug 14, 2023, 9:51 AM
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don't know who you are, but can you list the attacks on freedom.
Get your a$$ out of the echo chamber.
Ask Britney Griner about freedom. Sheesh.
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Re: Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
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Aug 13, 2023, 2:31 PM
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This topic, and...
1. Completely cutting Trump out of the primary. Do anything. Something dirty. If he runs against Biden, he loses. Any of these other candidates, IMO, would take Biden out in a general election.
2. Quit with the incessant whining about cheating and stolen elections like some of the other crybabies in this thread. The moderates of America--who decide elections--are tired of hearing this made-up BS.
If the Pubs can rein in all three of these things between now and Nov. 2024, they win.
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Re: Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
Aug 13, 2023, 9:26 PM
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I think Trump vs Biden is a coin flip.
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Re: Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
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Aug 14, 2023, 9:53 AM
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It's not BS that there is documented evidence, enough to fill dump trucks, that social media won the 2020 election for JB.
No doubt about it. Was it illegal? I think probably, but how do you prove it? It's essentially unprovable in terms of the cause-and-effect, but it obviously happened. It's as obvious as OJ and Nicole.
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I think America is tired of hearing about it.
Aug 14, 2023, 10:52 AM
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I know I am.
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Re: I think America is tired of hearing about it.
Aug 15, 2023, 11:23 AM
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No.
Only nervous Democrats are tired of hearing about it.
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I think the only one that is nervous is Trump***
Aug 15, 2023, 5:24 PM
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You got up at 4:14 AM to post...this?
Aug 16, 2023, 4:13 PM
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You would have ben more productive in bed.
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Re: Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
Aug 14, 2023, 11:41 AM
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Odd comparison to OJ obviously being guilty, considering OJ's attorney that helped fuel 'reasonable doubt' on that for the jury is the same dude, Alan Dershowitz, pumping Trump's BS defenses and running cover for him in the media.
You are buying the Kool Aid from the same guy that got OJ off for double murder. Congratulations.
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Re: Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
Aug 15, 2023, 11:26 AM
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FBI influenced Twitter to censor viewpoints that ran counter to the Democrat party’s message.
This was uncovered after Musk bought Twitter.
This is a no no for a Federal Government agency to act as a political asset.
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Private companies can use their platforms...
Aug 15, 2023, 5:02 PM
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Anyway they see fit in regulating speech, and that's not "illegal".
Y'all keep scrambling for ridiculous reasons Trump "didn't lose" but can't accept that he just got his ### kicked because y'all live in a fantasy world and you take it as a personal attack.
The overwhelming majority of Americans hate Trump and your ideology. Get over it.
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Not when government agencies are paying them to do it.
Aug 16, 2023, 4:17 AM
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That's a different ball game. Classic Fascism.
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Re: Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
Aug 15, 2023, 5:20 PM
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Twitter employees testified under oath to Jordan's 'weaponized' committee that no government entity, nor party mechanism, pressured them about content, FBI or other, and that these were matters of internal policy regarding misinformation and potential foreign intervention in election-related posts.
That certainly doesn't stop Jordan or Comer from lying about that testimony to you and others. Their oaths are tied to upholding and defending the constitution, not speaking the truth, as are their witnesses.
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BS.***
Aug 16, 2023, 4:18 AM
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Re: Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
Aug 13, 2023, 9:34 PM
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"Fetus" is a latin term that literally means unborn baby. Science has come to the point that everyone knows the baby is a separate human life. The baby has its own blood, own DNA, own brain waves. The issue is do we compromise on murder for convenience? If viability is the issue, do we allow anyone who can not care for themselves to be killed for convenience?
It really says a lot about this nation that we are willing to murder innocent human life for convenience. Murder of the innocent is murder of the innocent. There is no grey area.
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Re: Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
Aug 14, 2023, 6:50 AM
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That's where pro-choice and pro-life people will never agree.
Pro-Choice people think it is their body and their choice.
Pro-Life see 2 bodies and that the mother is just carrying a separate indiChoice.
I am pro-choice and I see abortion as reasonable early on and that it is practical. It's different than elderly people who can't care for themselves. They have been part of families and society etc. The have paid their dues. A fetus is way different imo. I get the pro-life stance. I also think the my body my Choice stance of pro-choice people doesn't make much sense when looking at it from a pro-life viewpoint.
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Re: Pubs have some clear and simple choices ...
Aug 14, 2023, 2:04 PM
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Science is pretty clear that we are 🤝 ng with two separate human beings.
A human being "has to pay his dues" to have the value of a human life? That is an odd way of thinking. A human life is sacred because it is a Human life.
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Nobody but Trump has a chance to win.
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Aug 14, 2023, 9:18 AM
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And his chance is very low considering the corrupt election system.
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So if Trumpo doesn't win, we just call it a draw
Aug 14, 2023, 12:16 PM
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and go without a president for the next 4 years?
If you are as smart as you think you are, you'd understand that a vote for Trump will simply mean another win for Biden.
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We'd be much better off without a president***
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See--you should find a place to live with no government.
Aug 14, 2023, 2:27 PM
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Niger is looking like a good spot for you.
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Re: We'd be much better off without a president***
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Aug 15, 2023, 11:37 AM
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Biden’s capabilities and performance prove your points.
Biden at the beach. Reporter approaches and asks ‘what do you have to say about the fires on Maui’? Biden, with none of his handlers on hand to tell him what to say, replies “no comment.”
In this, Biden revealed the limits of his presidential capabilities: He was disciplined enough to refrain from answering an extemporaneous question when his handlers were absent.
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Our country is being run worse than ever. Ever. But we know that ‘President’ Biden is doing nothing other than to be the fall guy if the establishment political infrastructure’s policies lead to mass unrest. In that case, Biden would be impeached, convicted in the senate, and sent to Martha’s Vineyard for paddle boarding lessons.
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What could he say? He knows the gov't set the fires
Aug 15, 2023, 5:25 PM
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Amiright NJDEV6
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