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Who could we realistically get that would be an upgrade over Brownell?
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Who could we realistically get that would be an upgrade over Brownell?

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Mar 9, 2024, 8:44 AM
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Give names

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Mar 9, 2024, 8:46 AM
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Nick Saban

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Mar 9, 2024, 8:49 AM
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Maybe Curly Neal? He would be entertaing for the children.

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I dont think Curly would be very entertaining these days.

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Mar 9, 2024, 3:29 PM
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He died a few years ago.

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Mar 9, 2024, 4:54 PM
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Mmmmmm.... No. That would be extremely entertaining. Or quite shocking. Either way, we would be better off

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How about Larry, Moe, or Curly?

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Mar 10, 2024, 12:27 AM [ in reply to I dont think Curly would be very entertaining these days. ]
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Are any of them still alive?

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Speaking of stooges, Stanley

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Mar 10, 2024, 1:05 AM
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CrustyTiger

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Mar 12, 2024, 1:40 PM [ in reply to Re: Who could we realistically get that would be an upgrade over Brownell? ]
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To be sadly honest, Nick Saban at 72 and a Football Coach, would still be an upgrade over BB.

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Mar 9, 2024, 8:48 AM
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Pat Riley. John Wooden.


Anyway, how would we know? That question always seems odd to me. We don't even know who would be available. Moreover, CBB will be returning season.

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Mar 9, 2024, 9:04 AM
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returning next season.....that should say.

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Mar 12, 2024, 1:48 PM [ in reply to Re: Who could we realistically get that would be an upgrade over Brownell? ]
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Realistically, the younger coach (Dusty May) at FAU would be an excellent choice. He went to the Final Four last year, and let's face it, he won't stay at FAU forever. Coming to the ACC would be a step up for him. Heck, the coach at (God forbid)(Lamont Paris) South Carolina is a better coach than BB. 25 wins this year in the SEC, and SEC Coach of the year. It's too easy to find a replacement for Brad.

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Mar 9, 2024, 8:50 AM
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Why do this when its not happening? Coach Brownell is at an uptick. If he keeps winning, maybe he then gets another gig opportunity to leave....

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Mar 9, 2024, 9:15 AM
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Who wouldn’t be an improvement?

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Class of ‘71. Went through “rat season” and glad I did.


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Mar 9, 2024, 9:18 AM
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Juwan Howard etc etc.. Also, we are having a good season. Do you think this season is a disaster?

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Mar 9, 2024, 10:23 AM
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We're having a pretty good season. Had a chance to have a most excellent season, but blew a few too large, late 2nd half leads.

But one season does not make up for the 13 previous seasons mired in mediocrity, uneven coaching and play, middling to fair recruiting.

If we had a really good coach, then my feelings going into a game like tonight's "must win" game would be something like "we might lose, but I can be certain we will give our best effort, hustle 100% of the time, and play as hard as we can; the coach will have the team well-prepared and motivated, and will make in-game adjustments as necessary."

With Brownell at the helm, I can't say ANY of that.

There are any number of ways tonight's game might play out...

Clemson could come out strong, shooting a balanced mix of 2s and threes and making most of them and ride that to a 20 point win. Hall and Chef work together in the paint with some hi/lo action and cleaning up each other's missed bunnies, or kicking out to open JG3 for the 3-ball. C Hunter has 6 or 7 nice dimes and Clark shuts down his assignment on the other end.

Clemson could make few early three's, fall in love with them, and jack up 35 of them but go ice cold. Failure to rebound any of the 3-bricks give WF 20 extra possessions and we get murdered.

It could be an evenly matched game for most of the game, then Clemson could scratch out an 11 point lead with 4 minutes left to play. Brownell calls the offense to try to eat clock, we throw up an airball with 1s on the clock a few times, turn it over a few times, WF hits 4 threes in a row to take the lead with 20s left, then with by 7 because we foul and cannot gain ground.

WFU could come out red hot, build an 18-point early lead, Clemson has no answer, plays lackluster defense, shoots poorly, basically gives up and WF wins going away.

PJ Hall gets 3 fouls in the first 4 minutes, sits the rest of the 1st half. Draws 4th foul on first possession of 2nd half. Sits until the under-4 timeout. Chef, Godfrey, Wiggins put in yeoman's effort and it's a tie game when Hall returns. As soon as he re-enters, Hall takes 2 threes that miss badly. WFU uses those possessions to gain an advantage. Hall fouls out after getting stripped of the ball.

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Nobody

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Mar 9, 2024, 12:37 PM
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Six 20-win seasons in 14 years at the school with a fan base that does not understand or care about basketball. Only Clemson coach in history over .500 in ACC play. I think he is done a helluva job and is a lot better than Clemson deserves.

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Having nobody as coach would be better than Brownell??

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Mar 9, 2024, 3:10 PM
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That's just mean.

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Mar 9, 2024, 4:57 PM [ in reply to Nobody ]
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And the mediocrity continues

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Mar 9, 2024, 8:22 PM [ in reply to Nobody ]
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Lost most every game that had true import on the season. Two chances to lock up double bye, out coached every time.

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Mar 9, 2024, 9:39 PM
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Howe we will choose to stay with Brad. Maybe next year he can get them over the hump

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^^ Angry strange man***

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Mar 10, 2024, 10:58 PM [ in reply to Nobody ]
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Cobbox® said:

Six 20-win seasons in 14 years at the school with a fan base that does not understand or care about basketball. Only Clemson coach in history over .500 in ACC play. I think he is done a helluva job and is a lot better than Clemson deserves.


Hall thinks he's a Shooting Guard. One of my most annoying Tigers

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Mar 12, 2024, 2:04 PM [ in reply to Re: Who could we realistically get that would be an upgrade over Brownell? ]
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At least with Juwan you'd have a few exciting ESPN-worthy brawls in the league.

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Mar 9, 2024, 11:17 AM [ in reply to Re: Who could we realistically get that would be an upgrade over Brownell? ]
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lthom022® said:

Who wouldn’t be an improvement?




There are 10 ACC programs, all with better histories of success, who are sitting below us in the standings. The LF does not want to acknowledge this but there would be plenty of downside opportunity with a coaching change.

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Mar 9, 2024, 9:17 AM
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UVA took our Tony, I say we roll out the big bucks and take theirs. He might be ready for a change. You never know until you ask.

Realistically, I don't think Brownell leaves unless he screws up badly in post-season play. (If then.)

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UVA has way more cash than us they'll top anything we offer***

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Mar 9, 2024, 10:22 AM
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I can dream, can't I? Maybe Tony wants a new challenge.

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Mar 9, 2024, 5:02 PM [ in reply to UVA has way more cash than us they'll top anything we offer*** ]
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He makes less in base pay than Brownell because he wants to be at UVA and chooses to reinvest in the program. His compensation is based largely on incentives that he routinely hits. UVA's ability to pay isn't even an issue.

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Mar 9, 2024, 11:18 AM [ in reply to Re: Who could we realistically get that would be an upgrade over Brownell? ]
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UVA took our Tony, I say we roll out the big bucks and take theirs. He might be ready for a change. You never know until you ask.

Realistically, I don't think Brownell leaves unless he screws up badly in post-season play. (If then.)




The LF complains that CBB basketball is boring. Tony’s brand of basketball is a snooze fest in comparison

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Mar 9, 2024, 12:27 PM
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You can't please everybody. Anyway, I think it's a non-issue at this point.

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Who in blue hell

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Mar 9, 2024, 12:38 PM [ in reply to Re: Who could we realistically get that would be an upgrade over Brownell? ]
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wants to watch that crap? Have you seen Virginia play lately? Obviously not.

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Tony has actually won a natty

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Mar 9, 2024, 12:39 PM
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Unlike Brownell.

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They don't want highs and lows. Just consistent mediocrity.

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Mar 9, 2024, 3:12 PM
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Consistency is the key.

So long as it's Brownell. It has to be Brownell. It just has to. For some reason.

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Its obvious at this point


Mar 9, 2024, 4:55 PM
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That they don’t want Brad to leave because they know his replacement will achieve more than Brad ever will.

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Mar 9, 2024, 8:33 PM [ in reply to Tony has actually won a natty ]
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Not a fan of brad but not a fan of tony either.

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Mar 9, 2024, 9:53 PM [ in reply to Tony has actually won a natty ]
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As of 2023, Bennett has led Virginia to the program's first NCAA Tournament Championship, third Final Four, second and third ACC Tournament Championships, and six of eleven seasons Virginia has finished first in the ACC season standings.

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Mar 9, 2024, 9:35 PM [ in reply to Who in blue hell ]
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Yes, I have seen UVA play this season. I believe they won 66-65. You need to lighten up.

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Mar 10, 2024, 1:07 AM
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He genuinely lives in terror that we’ll move on from Brownell and he (Cobbox) will lose that last little bit of influence he thinks he has within the AD. He’s a boomer that’s been left behind by the football program but he can still afford to buy proximity to Brownell and feel
Important. It’s really transparent and gross.

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Mar 12, 2024, 1:59 PM [ in reply to Re: Who could we realistically get that would be an upgrade over Brownell? ]
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Not surprised at all that the women's BB coach was given her walking papers. A horrible won-lost record.
in the case of Brad, He'll win a first round ACC Tournament game, then lose in the second round. In the
NCAAs, He'll lose either in the 1st, if not, for sure the 2nd round. He's quite predictable. Remember:
he's done this for 14 years. Old habits die hard.

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Mar 9, 2024, 12:55 PM
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Give it up, Brad Brownell is our coach.

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Brad is getting an extension after this season.

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Mar 9, 2024, 3:28 PM
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We don’t have a vacancy.

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Mar 9, 2024, 9:39 PM
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I said above that I didn't think he would be leaving.

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Mar 9, 2024, 4:53 PM
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Francis Marion

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Mar 9, 2024, 8:26 PM
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IDK but the coots found Paris and they finished 3-1 with a tough 4 game stretch. We went 2-2 against mediocre comp. If they can find a coach then we can too. I don’t care if we get a dud. You then fire and hire until you get the one that changes Clemson BB forever.

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Mar 9, 2024, 8:28 PM
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Better than Brownell? If that's the criteria then I'm available....I can EASILY go 14 years with no national or conference championships.

Give me a shot

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Whatever coach won the Pickens county rec league championship.***

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Larry Shyatt***

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there are way too many better than coach ihop***


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I for one am glad you are stopping. You are one of the most ignorant posters ever. You obviously think very highly of your own opinion, unlike the rest of us - RockHillTiger


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Bernie

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Mar 11, 2024, 12:09 AM
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Not that I want to lose our coach but Samford’s coach would be an instant upgrade. He’ll get poached soon. I’d rather he end up at Clemson.

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You will LOVE this idea - really excited to pitch this CBB replacement to Neff


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IMG-1307
Clemson leads the way in the new wave in head coaching and a HUGE savings in coaching salaries.

We will just need to set up 3D cameras around the court for visual processing by ChatGPT.

Sometimes I really impress myself.

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Mar 11, 2024, 1:23 PM
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Anybody on the Make-A-Wish Foundation list that wants to meet a Clemson basketball player

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As in - who could win the same number of conf championships or natties?


Mar 12, 2024, 1:42 PM
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Answer, anybody.

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Mar 12, 2024, 1:58 PM
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Goodness, have we learned nothing from football? Dabo Swinney was ON THE STAFF and was a better option than Tommy Bowden and only the AD really had figured out that.
And plus, I'd say we've had several better coaches than Brownell (Barnes, Purnell, Ellis all accomplished more). Yes, he's the winningest coach in program history. He's also the losingest.
As for names?
Greg Buckner
Will Wade
Bob Richey
Pat Kelsey
And that's without really even thinking about it.

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Mar 12, 2024, 2:05 PM
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How many socks do you have to post the same question?

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Here's my guy - link - amazing video . . . .


Mar 12, 2024, 2:09 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4a9eP9OCUJ/?igsh=MW1ydzk3cjR3MXdrag==


But - he's no different than our guy - who would wanna play for this guy ?


Wow - Clemson and this kinda passion - the sky would truly be the limit.


Ask HIM about a 9:30pm game - he's gonna say - I don't care if it is 3am - we are here to WIN this thing.


What a milquetoast dude we have . . . . sickening. When it COULD be this . . . . or even better.

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Shaka Smart***


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Mar 12, 2024, 2:59 PM
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I'd be curious to see how many of the Fire Brownell club also STILL think that was a goal tend on Chase's layup vs Wake even after 63 replays.

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Samuel L Jackson as Coach Carter***


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