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Which 3 or 4 plays is Dabo talking about?
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Which 3 or 4 plays is Dabo talking about?

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Sep 26, 2023, 11:20 AM

Is Dabo talking about the missed FG's in the Duke game? Is it the fumble in the Duke game? Is it an interception. Scoop and score? Missed FG in FSU?

Is it every 3rd and 6? Could we have converted 4 4th downs? Was it the last play of the FSU game?

Was it punt that could have pinned FSU at the 1 yard line?

What ever the 4 mystery plays are, I thank everyone who has posted on this topic. Y all are very entertaining.

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Two fumbles in Duke game inside the 1, and the fumble 6***


Sep 26, 2023, 11:21 AM



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Who cares now. Move on. Syracuse is on the


Sep 26, 2023, 11:21 AM

Horizon. 1 game season. Then WF, etc. Go Tigers!!!!

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Dabo cares, or he wouldn't have brought it up.


Sep 26, 2023, 11:23 AM

But he did bring it up, so here we are.

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Re: Dabo cares, or he wouldn't have brought it up.

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Sep 26, 2023, 11:29 AM

And here you are jumping on any opportunity to take cheap shots. As usual.

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Trolling is clearly against house rules, but when youre moderator scok


Sep 26, 2023, 11:49 AM

Then you do whatever you want in spite of the sites majority telling you to re-ban yourself.

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I didn't take a cheap shot.

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Sep 26, 2023, 12:05 PM [ in reply to Re: Dabo cares, or he wouldn't have brought it up. ]

Our friend AThomas responded to another poster with a snarky "Who cares? Move on."

No one would care if our head coach hadn't made the outrageous claim yesterday that we are three plays away from being in the top 5.

Surely you've also thought about which plays Dabo is referring to.

But hey, if we are supposed to move on and focus on the next game, then in fairness, let's stop talking about the last 10 years and how many games we've won when we feel uncomfortable about our current position. After all, it's time to move on, right?

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Table 1, party of 1. Please pass the lame duck sauce.***


Sep 26, 2023, 11:45 AM [ in reply to Dabo cares, or he wouldn't have brought it up. ]



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Re: Which 3 or 4 plays is Dabo talking about?

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Sep 26, 2023, 11:24 AM

Not really difficult if you have two neurons to rub together.

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hiring Goodwin, Grisham and Austin

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Sep 26, 2023, 11:28 AM

IMHO

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Were the 8th best defense in America and we havent lost a single game due


Sep 26, 2023, 11:47 AM

to Grisham or Austin.

Ignorant whiners are like site pollution. Whine, whine, whine… no substance at all. What a baby!

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The only thing youve ever written worth reading***


Sep 26, 2023, 12:07 PM [ in reply to hiring Goodwin, Grisham and Austin ]



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Lol yeah right. Scok much?***


Sep 26, 2023, 5:30 PM



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these are big time points that got left on the table & taxed


Sep 26, 2023, 11:28 AM

A missed FG in the Duke game - that created a 10 point swing
A fumble in the Duke game - that created a 14 point swing


A missed FG in the FSU game - that created a 10 point swing
A fumble in the FSU game - that created a 14 point swing

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yeah the whole rhetoric around a couple plays away is dumb

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Sep 26, 2023, 11:46 AM

It's like a butterfly effect. You can't just say one play changes the game without any idea how

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Watch much sports dude? Are there unforced errors in tennis?


Sep 26, 2023, 11:50 AM

And do those unforced errors get talked about by the players?

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huh?


Sep 26, 2023, 11:53 AM

Im saying it's a dumb suggestion that a single play in the 2nd or 3rd quarter of a game would have for sure changed the result of the game in your favor, no matter how big of a play it is.

There's no guarantee we win the Duke game even if we had not had the red zone fumbles.

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Re: huh?

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Sep 26, 2023, 12:04 PM

You have to be in the bottom quartile of intellect to keep this nonsense alive. Dabo is correctly stating that had we not made several beyond bonehead mistakes, we would likely be 4-0.
That you lower quartile clowns can't understand is just a confirmation that you are indeed, lets just say STUPID...
To be so aggressively showing your stupidity may just indicate that you are in the bottom 10%, not 25% as written.
Those of you wanting Dabo to quit are just fools that have been spoiled by Dabo and his success. You are not intelligent thinkers, just whining crybabies.
Bandwagon to Athens leaves every hour on the hour - I'll pay your fare.
Go on, get out of Tigertown - you are not worthy of our affiliation.

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And I would say the opposite. Anyone with

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Sep 26, 2023, 12:19 PM

any proper understanding knows TIP is correct. Once you change any major event in sports (or history) you can no longer assume anything after that point will remain the same.

Maybe we would've beaten Duke without that first fumble and maybe we wouldn't have. You can't know. And it's not like we dominated the other stats in that game either. We had more total yards but Duke averaged more yards per play. We scored our only 7 points off a Duke muffed punt.

When I look at that game I see one that was pretty even aside from more crippling mistakes by the Tigers. We made about 3 and they made 1. If the crippling mistakes had been even, I have to assume the score would've been fairly even because the other stats suggest it likely would have been.

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Yep. This is basically what Im saying


Sep 26, 2023, 12:48 PM

It’s not even at attack on Dabo or anything but more on the idea of “a few plays away” as a whole.

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Disagree entirely . Sometimes a play or three defines W/L.***


Sep 26, 2023, 5:27 PM [ in reply to huh? ]



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You really thatr STUPID ?


Sep 26, 2023, 11:52 AM

LOL

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Re: Which 3 or 4 plays is Dabo talking about?


Sep 26, 2023, 11:58 AM

The three 90 yard TD hail Marys that didn't happen.
Or maybe two touchdowns scores by Duke and one by FSU.

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Re: Which 3 or 4 plays is Dabo talking about?


Sep 26, 2023, 12:03 PM

What happened vs what should happen under normal circumstances and sound fundamentals if you take away both team's unforced turnovers and major mistakes:

Duke Game Scoring:

1st Half

Reality: Duke kicks 2 FG

What should have been the score: 0-6 Duke

Reality: Clemson misses FG

What should have been the score: 3-6 Duke

Reality: Clemson gets muffed punt and scores td

What should have been the score: 3-6 Duke

Reality: Duke drives to Clemson side of the field and fumbles the ball while trying to setup a FG attempt

What should have been the score: 3-9 Duke

2nd half

Reality: Barrett missed dead to rights sack on Leonard and he scores.

What should have been the score: 3-9 Duke

Reality: Clemson drives the field to the 1 yard line. False Start. 1st and goal from the 6 ends up with Klubnik stumbling for a 5 yard loss and then we miss a FG.

What should have been the score: 10-9 Clemson

Reality: We drive the field again to the 4 yard line. Klub tries to pull for an easy walk in touchdown. Fumble.

What should have been the score: 17-9 Clemson

Reality: We drive the field again to the 1 yard line. Mafah loses fumble to friendly fire. Duke returns the fumble to the 20 and eventually scores td.

What should have been the score: 24-9 Clemson

Reality: Because we're down 21-7 and pressing, Ship misses a pass through his hands and off his chest and it bounces and is intercepted on our side of the field. Duke goes on to score a TD.

What should have been the score: 24-9 Clemson

FSU

No major mistakes up until End of the 3rd Quarter

0:22 left in the 3rd

Clemson 24-17

Reality: Phil Mafah missed a hot and Cade gets blown up. Ball returns for scoop and score

What should have been the score: 27-17 or possibly 31-17 Clemson

Reality: Clemson misses chip shot FG

What should have been the score: 30-17 or possibly 34-17 Clemson

Reality: Game goes to OT and Clemson loses

What should have been the score: 30-17 or possibly 34-17 Clemson Win

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You are Very Patient


Sep 26, 2023, 12:07 PM

with these fools. Thanks for taking time to explain this on an elementary school level.
Now, anybody still having questions about this should admit that they are idiots.

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We could've beaten Louisville and NC State in

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Sep 26, 2023, 12:12 PM

2016 if it weren't for like 10 bad plays that killed us.

Oh wait, we still won both those games. Huh. Wonder how we could make so many mistakes back then and still win games. What's changed?

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Talent at WR and Coaching at WR


Sep 26, 2023, 12:15 PM

When you have Mike Williams, Deion Cain, Artavis Scott and Hunter Renfrow coached by Jeff Scott you can over come a hell of a lot more than you can with Beaux Collins, Adam Randle and Troy Stellato coached by Tyler Grisham.

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Red Zone fumbles lost at Duke.


Sep 26, 2023, 5:46 PM

Missed/blocked field goals at Duke.
Strip/sack/fumble/TD by FSU.
Missed field goal against FSU.

By my count, that's at least 6 plays.

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