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What's up, Doc?
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Apr 25, 2024, 7:55 AM
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The Washington Free Beacon obtained a syllabus from the "Structural Racism and Health Equity" course at The David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA. The document includes required reading lists to prepare for classes regarding topics like "The Sickness of Policing & Incarceration," "Anti-Settler Colonialism/Indigenous Health" and "Environmental Racism & Justice."
Among the materials for the "Disability Justice" session include an article by Marquisele Mercedes, titled "No Health, No Care: The Big Fat Loophole in the Hippocratic Oath," which says "fatphobia is medicine’s status quo."
"It is proven that weight loss is a useless, hopeless endeavor. You are unlikely to lose weight in any permanent way and highly likely to open yourself to the myriad risks associated with weight cycling. The relationship between weight and health is also muddy," the essay reads.
Obese woman
One of the required reading assignments for UCLA medical students includes addressing "fatphobia" in medicine. (iStock)
BIDEN ADMIN EXPERT CLAIMS OBESITY CANNOT BE TREATED WITH EXERCISE AND GOOD DIET
The essay also insisted that "the concept of ob*sity is used to exact violence on fat people, and fat activists regard it as a slur."
The course describes Mercedes' essay as "Weaving together the medical and scientific literature with her personal experiences and positionality as a Black fat scholar-activist, she describes how weight came to be pathologized and medicalized in racialized terms and offers direct recommendations to healthcare providers and researchers for resisting entrenched fat oppression. Take note as you read of what resonates with your own experiences learning about weight and fatness within medicine, and what pieces of her concluding ‘fat ode to care’ most resonate with you."
Other materials in the syllabus include works on why "the border crisis is a myth" and how medicine must be used to dismantle racism.
The course objectives are to "Understand the concepts of race/racism, power, colonialism, patriarchy, and capitalism and their manifestations in the history of medical thought, education, practice, and research and shaping the healthcare system overall" and "Understand the impact both structural and social determinants have on the health of marginalized communities."
An assignment that was allegedly due in the past week also focused on the topic "Combating Incarceration, Housing Injustice, and Environmental Racism with Community Organizing-Community Health Impact."
https://www.foxnews.com/media/ucla-med-schools-mandatory-structural-racism-and-health-equity-course-teaches-weight-loss-useless?intcmp=tw_fnc
Everything... everything is political with these tools. I wonder if they will start checking your personal ESG score along with your blood pressure.
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I bet that 'woman' is a blast to be around***
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Apr 25, 2024, 8:37 AM
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Re: What's up, Doc?
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Apr 25, 2024, 8:44 AM
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As if we needed more proof leftists are insane and miserable people. She probably hates Jews as well. How long til left wing scum try to outlaw the last remaining hideout of white supremacists the rest of us know as a gym?
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Re: What's up, Doc?
Apr 25, 2024, 10:56 AM
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An attack on Applebee's will follow the gym.
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We run on money. And as such, sometimes we have less than stellar results.
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Apr 25, 2024, 8:52 AM
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I mean you could point to the media, which runs on money, who no longer provide unbiased news, or scientists, who run on money, who provide biased science, or even the gubmint, who also runs on money who does not provide timely, or accurate data.
Is what it is. If there is a financial penalty for truth, or accuracy, then you get no truth, or accuracy. You get what sells.....something.
If they find people getting sick with the flu for drinking milk, you won't hear that from the USDA, the FDA, or any government agency. You won't hear it from the National Milk Producers Association (or whatever their lobbying group is). You will only hear it from a scientist in another country who confirms it. Heck, our diet is another example. Decades now we hear fat is bad, deadly, and then the sugar industry explodes. We put sugar in everything. And we get fat, and less healthy than ever before, but sugar is more profitable than veggies, or meat. It's the only physically addictive natural food ingredient, oh other than caffeine, which is also good for you according to the government and your employer.
We run on money, and not truth in the US. The most profitable thing is not always the best, or most truthful thing.
I'm not anti-capitalist at all, but there have to be checks on it, like everything else. If you rely on unchecked capitalism for your science, medicine, health, diet, news, finances even, you're subject to an unpleasant result. Or less than ideal. 40,000 Americans die every year from antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections, and 2.8 million Americans get them. Why? Because we're running out of antibiotics. Why are we running out of antibiotics? Because they're not profitable. People only take them when they're sick with some rare infection. Drug companies sink their R&D money into the next statin drug, or SOMETHING the most people need, or could take, for extended periods of time. THAT is what is profitable for a drug maker, not inventing an antibiotic that will save maybe 100 lives a year or only be used or needed by maybe 10,000 people a year. Nope, they want something everyone needs. Fat pills. ED pills. Heart pills. High BP pills...... the most profitable drugs. And our overall healthcare suffers as a result.
It is the job and duty of government to check capitalism, and also freedom, while allowing both to exist. You can't have unchecked freedom otherwise you end up with anarchy. You can't have unchecked capitalism as well, or you end up broke. We are presently trending both directions.
We used to have something called the "fairness doctrine". It was a gubmint mandate/rule/regulation. It required news sources to present both sides of any issue/argument. And we would turn on the news and were presented with BOTH SIDES of an issue. Today, turn on the news and you get one side, or another. You NEVER get contradicting points of view or opinion from the same news source because news is provided to an audience who wants to hear one thing/side, or another. This was a check, by the government, on capitalism, and the deleterious impact it could have on news and information. An uninformed population is a dangerous, and unstable population. History shows that.
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I don't agree with the politicizing of obesity
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Apr 25, 2024, 8:52 AM
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but studies looking into weight loss programs etc esp in kids are pretty dismal.
everyone knows a success story for sure, but went to a conference a few years back, doc from Chapel Hill spoke, she was the pioneer of programs around the country at pediatric centers that treated kids with multispecialty approach; specialty trained pediatrician, psychologist, sports trainer, dietician all teamed up, kids were required to attend 2 times a week with a class and observed workouts, one parent was required to go thru same process as well to try and change family habits etc
Follow up BMIs, unchanged. What was changed is healther lifestyle, eating habits, exercise etc
So if looking strictly at weight loss, discouraging, but hopefully lifestyle changes make an impact
Here's the thing, is more expensive to eat healthy than not, thus higher incomes usually translate into healthier diets. Do with that what you will.
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I dunno. Sounds pretty colonialist to me.
Apr 25, 2024, 8:59 AM
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You talk like obesity is a bad thing.
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We're fat because we eat what sells.
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Apr 25, 2024, 9:09 AM
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And what people want to buy, and eat. Not what is best to buy, or eat.
If you've ever come off drinking alcohol, or come off nicotine (two very profitable and addictive substances) you know what happens. You get withdrawal.
Try coming off of sugar and carbohydrates sometime. You get..... withdrawal.
Millions of people are physically (and sometimes mentally) addicted to a substance that is not natural to the human diet in the quantities we ingest it. The worst part is, they usually don't even know it. And this addiction, over time, creates a metabolic syndrome in people that shortens lifespans, and reduces quality of life.
Then you have to think about "what sells"? Asparagus, or Cheetos? Broccoli, or Doritos? Offer these choices to your child sometime. You'll get an unbiased answer every time.
Are there any billion dollar asparagus companies? Are there any billion dollar broccoli growers or companies? Are there any billion dollar junk food companies?
humm.......
If you want to invest your hard-earned dollars in a company, do you invest in a broccoli and asparagus growing/processing company, or a carbohydrate producing company?
My money is on Doritos all day long, and twice on Sunday.
As for your last sentence, that's because we subsidize unhealthy foods, or the main ingredients in them anyway (corn, rice, wheat, sugar, etc), to the tune of tens of billions of dollars, every year. This makes high carbohydrate foods the cheapest calories, and the lower carbohydrate foods the most expensive. And obesity becomes a disease of the poor, when before agricultural subsidies, it was a disease of the rich.
Our USDA nutrition guidelines are completely backwards from what nature intended for humans to consume. The USDA wants Americans to eat an unnaturally high amount of carbohydrates, while also eating an unnaturally low amount of fats. They want us eating 65% of our calories from carbohydrates and half that for fats. You can live on ZERO carbohydrates without any problems. Try living on zero grams of fat. You die. 300 grams of carbohydrates is NOT a natural, or healthy human diet. In fact, if you follow the USDA guidelines to a T, the math has long ago been done. You would need to run (not walk or shuffle) but RUN 2+ miles EVERY SINGLE day, to maintain a healthy weight. Very few Americans do that level of exercise daily, and as such you're guaranteed to become overweight, at best, and obese at worst. Nope, we SHOULD double our fat intake and halve our carbohydrate intake. But again, one is physically addictive, the other isn't. One sells better. Oh, AND it's the cheapest calories too, thanks to subsidies.
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Re: We're fat because we eat what sells.
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Apr 25, 2024, 10:39 AM
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You’re correct that our bodies don’t need carbs, they aren’t built to require carbs. We can convert fats and proteins to glycogen for energy storage. Getting over carb addiction and limiting carbs to those that come from foods that grow out of the ground is solid dietary advice for weight loss.
Don’t discount however the other two factors in addition to eating behaviors, genetic predilection and socioeconomics. One of my mentors used to always say that thin people give themselves far too much credit for being thin.
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Endicronologist once told me there's a pecking order your body uses
Apr 25, 2024, 4:41 PM
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to metabolize calories. The first thing your body burns for energy is alcohol. The second preference is simple carbohydrates/sugars. Third are complex carbohydrates and starches like pasta, bread, potatoes, etc. LAST, your body will burn fat.
SO.....
When you eat a diet high in carbohydrates, and sugars, or drink alcohol, or all of the above, it never gets a chance to burn, or need to burn any fat you eat. So it's stored. Complex carbohydrates are the worst, also, because they elevate your blood sugars for a long period of time. Sugar just spikes it, but it comes down much faster. So you eat bread, and noodles/pasta and you get a high baseline blood sugar that lasts hours, then add sugar on top of that, and it's worse.
Honestly, if you eliminate all complex carbs alone, you will probably lose weight, even if you drink sugary drinks, etc.
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Re: I don't agree with the politicizing of obesity
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Apr 25, 2024, 9:58 AM
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You can consume a 1200-1500 calorie a day diet for only a few dollars a day and you will lose weight since that means you're likely running a calorie deficit at that level. Blaming obesity on being poor is one of the biggest loads of BS shoveled by the left. Poor people are fat because they'd rather spend $15 at Taco Bell to consume 2000 calories in a single meal than to spend a few dollars to buy one of literally hundreds of other meal options that are healthier and cheaper. If someone can buy a bag of Doritos or a package of blackberries and each are $5 you can't blame poverty on the fat morons who constantly choose the Doritos so stop repeating nonsense.
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Re: I don't agree with the politicizing of obesity
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Apr 25, 2024, 10:24 AM
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Blaming obesity on being poor is one of the biggest loads of BS shoveled by the left.
No, it's not BS, and no, that's not a political thing. Healthier food simply costs more. Period.
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Re: I don't agree with the politicizing of obesity
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Apr 25, 2024, 10:32 AM
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The confident ignorance on display every day on this forum is shocking
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Dunning-Kruger effect in full display here
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Apr 25, 2024, 10:34 AM
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This budget NCTiger literally calling BS on... a doctor. About medical issues.
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Re: Dunning-Kruger effect in full display here
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Apr 25, 2024, 10:36 AM
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Everyone is an expert in everything these days. Reading three tweets is the same as a decade of training and lifetime of experience.
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oWnInG dA lIbS!!!11!1 8484848***
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Apr 25, 2024, 12:33 PM
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1 bag of chips
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Apr 25, 2024, 10:47 AM
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5$ or so for a half pound
Carrots $1 a pound
Celery $1 a pound
Oreos back to $10 a pound
Healthy food takes effort.
I buy a chicken breast for about $4 I cook it and get 4 sandwiches out of it. Maybe $2 total for the sandwich. It's cheaper than buying good sliced meat and probably about the same cost as bologna.
Now buying veggies and throwing them away when they go bad is expensive. Cookies and chips never last long enough to go bad.
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Re: 1 bag of chips
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Apr 25, 2024, 11:02 AM
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Having a $2.50 salad from Lidl right now.
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Lidl... the grocery shopper's secret. They don't have everything but what
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Apr 25, 2024, 11:44 AM
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they have is generally cheaper... sometimes by a lot.
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Re: Lidl... the grocery shopper's secret. They don't have everything but what
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Apr 25, 2024, 11:50 AM
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It's like an upper crust poor's version of Aldi 😜
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I think they castrated Aldi... certainly in my home town. I have to 'travel' to
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Apr 25, 2024, 12:03 PM
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go to a Lidl... It's certainly worth it for certain items, especially the wife's Spanish Red. Smooth, dry, non-acidic 'almost Bordeaux'..
Lidl actually owns the vineyards.
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Re: I think they castrated Aldi... certainly in my home town. I have to 'travel' to
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Apr 25, 2024, 12:58 PM
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The whole you can't find inexpensive healthy options is complete bunk. Don't know if it's political bunk, but it's bunk. Gawd forbid someone have to put a little planning into it.
Lidl is less than a mile from my house, so I get a little exercise when I walk there too.
And, they have some drinkable wines, as well.
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I wish I had one that close. I could take the EBike with one of my carts. ;~)
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Apr 25, 2024, 1:07 PM
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The wine buys are usually 4-5 6-bottle cases at a time. That would preclude 'walking'.
Try the Vega Del Cega red if you like it dry.
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Re: 1 bag of chips
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And don't forget beverages. You can drink as much water as you want for free, even making your own tea is only a few dollars a month. However many people, especially all those supposedly too poor to eat well people, spend gobs of money to drink soft drinks which are both terrible for you and much more expensive. Soft drink consumption in lower income areas dwarfs consumption in higher income areas. So if poor people are spending money on expensive high calorie soft drinks instead of cheaper healthier alternatives how exactly do you somehow manage to blame their poor choices on poverty? Same thing goes for all the food they are eating that's more expensive and unhealthy than cheaper options.
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Re: What's up, Doc?
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Apr 25, 2024, 8:54 AM
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Soo... what you're saying is UCLA med can no longer be taken seriously.
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If I were a fatty who read this...
Apr 25, 2024, 10:09 AM
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I'd go to the hospital and yell at a nurse.
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