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110%er [5018]
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We have been "damaged"!
May 28, 2012, 4:11 PM
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Clemson , FSU, GT, and VT have a very strong legal argument to avoid exit fees.
1. ESPN executive is on the record saying Swofford was asked, "what do we have to do to get this deal done?"
Reply from John Swofford, " bring Ray com into the deal".
ESPN executive says, "we brought in Ray com".
2. Swofford is basically "pleading the 5th on the issue"
3. Damaged schools should resign from the account after filing suit against the ACC .
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4. Damaged schools should negotiate an ACC settlement, with ACC paying the schools that were damaged and have withdrawn.
5. Damaged schools should apply to a conference that is interested in protecting the interests of all member schools.
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Zealot [721]
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Re: We have been "damaged"!
May 28, 2012, 4:46 PM
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Put the money you would spend on a frivolous lawsuit toward the exit fee.
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110%er [5018]
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Frivilous ...read this , link
May 28, 2012, 8:00 PM
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I'm lazy so I'm just copying and pasting a post from the FSU board, but I found this interesting. There is a large camp out there that says, what exactly did Swofford do that was so bad? This might answer that question. First let's look at the acc's product in terms of TV viewers:
Football:
SEC: 4,447,000 viewers
B1G: 3,267,000
ACC: 2,650,000
Big 12: 2,347,000
PAC 12: 2,108,000
Big East: 1,884,000
Basketball:
B1G: 1,496,000 viewers
ACC: 1,247,000
SEC: 1,222,000
Big 12: 1,069,000
Big East: 1,049,000
PAC 10: 783,000
Not bad at all. Obviously, other things go into these TV deals, but still, I think this shows that the ACC TV deal should be at least comparable to those of the other major conferences.
So where did the TV negotiations go wrong? It wasn't this recent round. It was the one before...
Copied from FSU board:
In 2010 as I recall the ACC contract was first negotiated in more or less it's current form, Swofford insisted that ESPN partner with Raycom. While other conferences put the Tier 2 rights up for bids the ACC bundled and gave away the store. Without this no bid award, Raycom goes under. Shortly thereafter Swofford's son gets promoted to Marketing Director at Raycom. Nothing technically illegal seems to have happened here but certainly there is a stench of corruption about all this.
So where does Chad Swofford work?
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ch...fford/a/578/8b4
ESPN executive in link below explains how they got the ACC deal: by appeasing Swofford and bringing in Tier three broadcaster Raycom, a company with an outmoded business model and in general a company widely considered to be an inferior quality broadcaster of sports events.......that was on-the-brink-of-financial-extinction!
Here's one insider interview of how this happened. In his own words ESPN's negotiator John Skipper asks Swofford what it will take for ESPN to get the deal. Swofford says unequivocally "bring in Raycom". So ESPN gets a cut rate deal and the ACC football schools are dealt a killshot. All in order to save Swofford's son's job...? Read...decide...discuss.
Business Report
Again just thought this was interesting...apologize in advance if you disagree and I wasted your time.
http://syracusefan.com/threads/raycoms-role-in-acc-tv-deal.27110/
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Re: We have been "damaged"!
May 28, 2012, 5:44 PM
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Obviously you aren't interested in going to the Big XII since you want a conference that is interested in protecting the interest of every member. The Big XII's actions have been in the best interest of Texas, not the conference as a whole. I don't see the SEC going to 18, so where exactly would you suggest that we apply, PAC 12 or Big TEN?
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Re: We have been "damaged"!
May 28, 2012, 6:04 PM
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How about Mountain West? ha ha.... these folks have no idea....
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A lot of the damage Clemson suffered is self inflicted.
May 28, 2012, 6:14 PM
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Had we been winning instead of furnishing ### to half the country for 25 years we'd be in a much better position right now.
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Re: A lot of the damage Clemson suffered is self inflicted.
May 28, 2012, 6:18 PM
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Agree,
Plus anyone who set up the Bowden buyout/payout debacle would have a lot of nerve suing someone else for what amounts to malpractice. Wouldn't be surprised if the judge through it out and said 'look in the mirror.'
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Re: A lot of the damage Clemson suffered is self inflicted.
May 28, 2012, 6:41 PM
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the guilty culprit is barker and barker alone!! he ORDERED TDP to give TB that out-landish con tract with that stupid buy-out!!no one but barker!!
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Re: A lot of the damage Clemson suffered is self inflicted.
May 28, 2012, 6:45 PM
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No argument here. And he'll be the one negotiating the final details once it's kicked upstairs by the AD and approved by the BOT. I do not take great comfort in that, as I suspect Barker does not really want to leave the cocoon of the ACC.
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Re: A lot of the damage Clemson suffered is self inflicted.
May 28, 2012, 6:48 PM
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All of the posts on here seem to be following what they think is best for football. The BOT and Barkers positions are for what's best for the school as a whole, including athletics and academics.... this is the way it should be.
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