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Unchecked and checked "big deal" boxes in basketball
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Unchecked and checked "big deal" boxes in basketball

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Jan 7, 2024, 6:29 AM
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unchecked boxes ... (this year's team has the talent to check all these)
___ National Title
___ Final Four (a miracle shot beat us in final 8)
___ Final Two
___ Win the ACC Tournament

checked boxes ...
* ACC season champs
* NCAA Final 8
* beat UNC at their house (I got so tired of hearing the announcers talk about Clemson 0 forever at Chapel Hill)

If I am wrong please correct me.

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Jan 7, 2024, 6:53 AM
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Even though I'm not a fan of Brad he is the only Clemson basketball coach to beat UNC at Chapel Hill.

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Miracle shot was Tate George from UConn.

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Jan 7, 2024, 8:21 AM
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That was in the Sweet 16, not Elite Eight.

And it shouldn’t have counted (this was before replay).

Ironically, we had to vacate our wins from that tournament due to NCAA sanctions, so it’s at least nice to know that the win wouldn’t ultimately have counted anyway.

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Jan 7, 2024, 8:28 AM
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All the checks are singular.

One ACC regular season championship (zero under CBB).
One Elite 8 (zero under CBB).
One win at UNC (perhaps the crowning achievement of CBBs far-too-long Clemson career).

I'll give CBB credit where credit is due, even if I've been convinced for a few years now that his tenure should have come to an end some time ago.

Here's one: first and only Clemson coach to ever win a game at Chapel Hill, breaking an 0-59 streak.

In the last several years, his teams have won several post-season games, including making an NCAA Sweet 16 appearance in 2018.

2017 ACC tournament, #12 seed, beat #13 NCSU, then lost to #5 Duke (Duke won tournament).
2018 ACC tournament, #4 seed (double-bye), beat #12 BC, then lost to #1 UVS (UVA won tournament)
2019 ACC tournament, #9 seed lost to #8 seed NCSU 59-58
2020 ACC tournament, #8 seed beat #9 Miami (Brownell became first Clemson coach to end the season with a win, as remaining ACC and NCAA & NIT games were canceled due to COVID)
2021 ACC tournament, #5 seed, lost to #13 Miami
2022 ACC tournament, #10 seed, beat #13 NCSU, then lost to #7 Va Tech (Va Tech won tournament)
2023 ACC tournament, #3 seed, beat #6 NCSU, then lost to #2 UVA

2017 NIT #2 seed, first round loss to #7 seed Oakland
2018 NCAA #5 seed made Sweet 16 (beat #12 New Mexico State and #4 Auburn, lost to #1 Kansas [KSU final four])
2019 NIT #2 seed, won 1st round vs #7 Wright State, lost to #6 Witchita State
2020 no post season for anyone (COVID)
2021 NCAA #7 seed, lost to #10 seed Rutgers
2022 did not qualify
2023 NIT #1 seed, lost to Morehead State

Brownell and Clemson represented the US in the 2019 World University games, went 6-0 and won the gold medal.

I cannot remember any disciplinary problems of any significance on Brownell teams. As far as I know, there's not been any allegations of NCAA violations on Brownell teams.

In years past, Clemson got run out of the gym on a regular basis, with 20 or even 30 point losses. I feel the poor record Brownell has in close games overlooks the fact that there are now more close games (but I have not done any analysis to that effect, it just seems that way). Yeah, we have some big losses, but they're not by 30 points anymore and I feel like the team is playing hard every minute of (almost) every game rather than giving up like they obviously did in the past.

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