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Oculus Spirit [93678]
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Tyler represented Tnet's and STS' dumpers.
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Nov 1, 2023, 11:52 AM
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Dabo represented we pumpers.
Dumpers think they know why we are losing and if Dabo only faced, what they believe are, the facts we would be undefeated now. They just don't believe Dabo is doing his best.
We pumpers are hurting too but we aren't foolish enough to think we know more about football and our players than Dabo. We believe Dabo is doing his best and know that if change is needed Dabo will see it long before we do. We know there's no man more suited for Clemson Football than Dabo and sweeping change is no solution to our 4-4 issue.
I'm surprised Tyler didn't call Dabo a racist.
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I'm neither and I want that on the record. There are Tylers on both sides...
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Nov 1, 2023, 11:53 AM
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you know, idiots; some more so than others.
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Oculus Spirit [93678]
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My not dumping on Dabo is not because I'm busy rejoicing over 4-4.
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Nov 1, 2023, 11:58 AM
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This season has taken the wind our of my sail.
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I'm not sure I've seen anyone rejoicing over 4-4, Dabo has said no one...
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Nov 1, 2023, 12:07 PM
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fans, staff, players alike are satisfied. Disappointment has been bandied about by Dabo before.
He gets it.
Too many shoot their own arguments in the foot or set up future arguments for failure. Too much emotion to have a reasonable conversation here and though there are moments, it seems many of those that have them usually turn around and bite someone.
You guys have at it, I won't be at the weenie roast either, not that it wasn't a tempting offer.
Go Tigers. Still a fan, always will be.
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Re: I'm not sure I've seen anyone rejoicing over 4-4, Dabo has said no one...
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Nov 1, 2023, 12:34 PM
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Is it rational to think the NIL/Portal has damaged Dabo's ability to do things "the right way" but still be competitive?
Leaving all the pumper/dumper stuff aside, I think that's a reasonable take, question, from strictly a fan perspective.
No trying to argue, just sincerely want to know if you agree or disagree.
If you agree, can Dabo make the correct adjustments? I think all of us can agree that it is a resounding yes!
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Re: I'm not sure I've seen anyone rejoicing over 4-4, Dabo has said no one...
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Nov 1, 2023, 2:29 PM
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I really wonder why everyone expects Dabo to magically and immediately do things like they see it.
He isn't just gonna give up. This season has been really tough to watch but that doesn't mean that all of a sudden Dabo isn't a good coach. Every season is different and there is a game in Death Valley this weekend.
I'll be watching.. Go Tigers!!
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Re: I'm not sure I've seen anyone rejoicing over 4-4, Dabo has said no one...
Nov 1, 2023, 2:57 PM
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Can Dabo make the correct adjustments? Yes.
Will Dabo make the correct adjustments? No.
Dabo is extremely arrogant and stubborn. Those personality traits prevent him from making the necessary changes because to make the changes would be an implicit admission of error. Dabo is not psychologically capable of that.
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Thanks, Tyler.***
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Nov 1, 2023, 1:08 PM
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I'm far from neutral, I'm brilliant.***
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There are some that would argue objectivity does not exist. Interesting reads...***
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Re: There are some that would argue objectivity does not exist. Interesting reads...***
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Nov 1, 2023, 1:13 PM
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Oh. Intelligence would have nothing to do with that then.
Too many are ruled by their feelz to be objective, but to say it doesn’t exist sounds like a cop out to me.
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Perhaps, objectively I believe some people are far more objective than others...***
Nov 1, 2023, 1:15 PM
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Re: Perhaps, objectively I believe some people are far more objective than others...***
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I OBJECT!
Please make a note of my objection to the main object of your objectivity.
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Done, and thank you.***
Nov 1, 2023, 1:23 PM
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Re: I'm neither and I want that on the record. There are Tylers on both sides...
Nov 1, 2023, 1:33 PM
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Out and about for a bit, you fine folk play nice.
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Re: Tyler represented Tnet's and STS' dumpers.
Nov 1, 2023, 12:10 PM
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Dabo represented we pumpers.
Dumpers think they know why we are losing and if Dabo only faced, what they believe are, the facts we would be undefeated now. They just don't believe Dabo is doing his best.
We pumpers are hurting too but we aren't foolish enough to think we know more about football and our players than Dabo. We believe Dabo is doing his best and know that if change is needed Dabo will see it long before we do. We know there's no man more suited for Clemson Football than Dabo and sweeping change is no solution to our 4-4 issue.
I'm surprised Tyler didn't call Dabo a racist.
From when, fans who criticize have been labeled as dumpers?
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TD because no Clemson fan in either of you mythical groups would
Nov 1, 2023, 12:28 PM
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Ever call Dabo racist. It's asinine to even bring up.
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That happened when Kelly Bryant lost his starting position to that...
Nov 1, 2023, 1:32 PM
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white boy, whatshisname?
I've told some fairly good lies in my life but...
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Oculus Spirit [93678]
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Member that...
Nov 1, 2023, 1:38 PM
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Nope
Nov 1, 2023, 2:17 PM
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I member some thin skinned folks getting triggered because an ESPN gameday personality who now works on football night in America implied that he was treated differently. If any Clemson fans believed it to be true they didn't come here and say it. Maybe you're just membering what you wanna member. Or maybe you're just a member.
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Re: Tyler represented Tnet's and STS' dumpers.
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There are dumpers, there are pumpers, and there are real fans with a love for Clemson football who are honest with themselves and based in reality. I wish we had more of the latter.
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LOL
Nov 1, 2023, 1:26 PM
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Oculus Spirit [93678]
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What I was saying is that what Dabo said represents those of us who...
Nov 1, 2023, 1:37 PM
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believe he is doing the best he can, with great appreciation for what he's done even though we aren't calling for people to be replaced on this team.
Tyler represents those who allow their emotion to control or overwhelm their logic, reason and what they post. Sometimes when I get fed up and want to say F-em I take a breather.
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I believe Dabo is trying his best.
Nov 1, 2023, 1:35 PM
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I just don't think his best is good enough anymore.
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Speak of the devil^***
Nov 1, 2023, 1:39 PM
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Re: I believe Dabo is trying his best.
Nov 1, 2023, 2:25 PM
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maybe you should apply for the job. We have 4 games left and people are acting like the season is over.....
Go Tigers!!!
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Re: I believe Dabo is trying his best.
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maybe you should apply for the job. We have 4 games left and people are acting like the season is over.....
Go Tigers!!!
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This troll would love nothing more than for Clemson to wander the desert
Nov 1, 2023, 3:25 PM
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for the next decade plus like many similar top programs that knee-jerked their way to a coaching fire after a few seasons of adversity (think Tennessee, Nebraska, Michigan for starters, heck even Alabama after Stallings) following championship level performances.
She's pumped enough of that mentality on our basketball program with Brown L following Purnell's 3-straight NCAA appearance seasons yet no W's there. We've been a tepid ho hum program since with just a slight glimpse of promise here and there to keep it going.
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