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TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss
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TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 10, 2024, 8:59 PM
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Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Everyone is hot shooting against us***

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Jan 10, 2024, 9:01 PM
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Re: Everyone is hot shooting against us***

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Jan 10, 2024, 9:02 PM
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We can seriously do better with a change in coaching. Literally same results different season. Wow!!!!!!!

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Re: Everyone is hot shooting against us***

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Jan 11, 2024, 9:04 AM
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Might do better, might do worse, but I think we've conclusively determined what happens if we stay the course. 14 years is MORE than enough time.

Give someone else a chance!

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Yep, just save the headline and insert the name of the next team we play.

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Jan 11, 2024, 9:10 AM [ in reply to Everyone is hot shooting against us*** ]
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Almost as alarming as the fact that we play no defense against good teams, is the fact that our own shooting and ball handling has fallen off the map as well. Several just flat out LAZY turnovers in that game last night. And, as usual, our guys lack that instinct of knowing when to stop trying to dribble into traffic, and just pull up and take the eight foot shot that is there instead.

:(

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Re: Everyone is hot shooting against us***

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Jan 11, 2024, 12:16 PM [ in reply to Everyone is hot shooting against us*** ]
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I don't understand how chase hunter is still starting!! He is a black hole where possessions go to die. Clemsons best offense is bricking a shot and letting the chef get a putback layup.

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Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 10, 2024, 9:01 PM
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Oh no!! We suck againnnnnn!!!!

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Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 10, 2024, 9:07 PM
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We can't get open shots with our half court "offense" and defensive lapses at critical times.....sound familiar?

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Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 11, 2024, 7:09 AM
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I for one do not entirely blame our woes on coaching. You can draw up the perfect play on the clipboard and if the players don't execute it who is that on? The whole team is in a funk right now. Until they work their way out of it expect more of the same. The 64 dollar question is how long will it take?

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Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 11, 2024, 9:00 AM
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When the whole team is in a funk, we probably need to look at the coach/staff.

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Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 11, 2024, 9:05 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss ]
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14 years?

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Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 11, 2024, 12:51 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss ]
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But that same comment could have been applied last year. Or the year before. Or the year before.
This story just repeats itself every season. It is beyond time to move on.

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Hey author, how about our defense is abysmal??

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Jan 10, 2024, 9:13 PM
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Brownell in over his head - as per usual. How it’s not evident after 47 years is beyond my understanding. So sick of this crap.

Everything is difficult for this team now - even dribbling. It’s painful to watch. Even after taking out their best player we still looked we had no clue what we were doing. Va tech is not a good team. They are especially not good without their best player.

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Re: Hey author, how about our defense is abysmal??

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Jan 11, 2024, 5:38 AM
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I agree 💯

When PJ Hall has more 3pt attempts than anyone else on the team, NO FT Attempts, 1 Offensive Rebound. That is a coaching issue!

How can our guards drive to the basket and get fouled but our biggest/best player can’t post up and draw fouls? (Don’t tell me it’s the refs).

VA Tech had 2 players with 60pts combined. IF Brownell is a defensive minded coach then why did we not double team and push other players to take shots?

Against UNC Bacot had 4 fouls with 5 mins left. Any defensive minded coach should know that you want their best defensive player to foul out. Why didn’t we put more pressure in the paint against bacot?

I remember a couple of years ago when we were beat by NC State 2x when up by 20pts at HT.

We can list out ever year the facts. BROWNELL is a mid-major coach, nice, clean, says all the right things. Not a high level coach and will never be.
Neff will not put up with it and I truly believe that Dan gave him that contract before he left as he knew Neff would have made the change when he took over. The buy out gave brownell job security. The buy out each year becomes more palatable to find a new coach.(Just not sure it’s after this season or next)
We can keep expecting the same until a change is made. 😭

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Re: Hey author, how about our defense is abysmal??

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Jan 11, 2024, 9:03 AM
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A very good first post.... "Coot" 😉
Welcome to Tigernet...

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The night is advancing - its midnight - natives are

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Jan 10, 2024, 9:18 PM
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…getting restless.

We’re getting close to the witching hour, the end of January.

BTW…nothing’s changed. Those who thought this year would be different, can dream on.

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That was a hard one to watch

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Jan 10, 2024, 9:19 PM
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Literally, every time they heaved up a three, you just knew it was going in.

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What goes up...

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Jan 10, 2024, 9:24 PM
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You know, the thing.

And the defenders will start. "Hey we've never been good, don't expect that to change" like wearing an orange jersey makes you bad at basketball. We deserve better.

Mr. Neff, are you paying attention?

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Re: What goes up...

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Jan 11, 2024, 9:06 AM
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JK started with that after the UNC game.

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Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 10, 2024, 9:28 PM
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Clemson better start taking about defense first. Get some run outs etc. Or this will be bad. They played well in second half. Have to harass their best o players or they will continue to lose.

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Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 10, 2024, 9:31 PM
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So they had two guys with career highs.
24 and 32.

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Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 10, 2024, 9:37 PM
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And their best player on the bench. Doesn't make sense.

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Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 10, 2024, 9:39 PM
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Makes sense. It’s 3 games in a row…our defense is abysmal.

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Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 10, 2024, 11:22 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss ]
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Well it looks like nothing has changed. Last year was the same. Strong start and poor finish. I know there’s a lot more bb to play but I see nothing to lead me to believe this year doesn’t end just like last year. Bring on Morehead St in the NIT

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Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 10, 2024, 9:31 PM
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😂😂😂😂

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We have some big issues to fix.

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Jan 10, 2024, 11:26 PM
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First is our defense. We don’t rotate quickly enough. And as great a shooter as Girard is, he’s a defensive liability. He’s not fast enough or tall enough to consistently guard athletic guards on the opposing team.

Second is our shot selection. While generally good, we have too many forced threes by Chase and PJ. I’d much rather see Girard or Wiggins shooting some of those.

Third is our depth. We are a tired team. We really need Clark back and healthy. Hemenway would help a lot too.

We need to keep our chin up. We can still have a good year but we need to weather this storm. Some easier games are coming up, starting with BC this weekend. It’s a must win in my opinion.

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So Brad got outcoached then

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Jan 10, 2024, 11:27 PM
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Agreed.

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In other words

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Jan 10, 2024, 11:31 PM [ in reply to We have some big issues to fix. ]
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Our defense sucks

Our offense sucks

Our depth sucks

Poised for a deep run in the tournament

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Not at all. We are a work in progress.***

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Jan 11, 2024, 1:17 AM
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Re: Not at all. We are a work in progress.***

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Jan 11, 2024, 6:55 AM
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I agree, just a poorly coached team. To have the talent Clemson has this season and get embarrassed 3 games straight is ridiculous. Brad has to go.

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^^ excuse machine

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Jan 11, 2024, 1:26 PM [ in reply to Not at all. We are a work in progress.*** ]
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Hypocritical nonsense.

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Jan 11, 2024, 5:33 AM [ in reply to We have some big issues to fix. ]
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When PJ Hall has more 3pt attempts than anyone else on the team, NO FT Attempts, 1 Offensive Rebound. That is a coaching issue!

How can our guards drive to the basket and get fouled but our biggest/best player can’t post up and draw fouls? (Don’t tell me it’s the refs).

VA Tech had 2 players with 60pts combined. IF Brownell is a defensive minded coach then why did we not double team and push other players to take shots?

Against UNC Bacot had 4 fouls with 5 mins left. Any defensive minded coach should know that you want their best defensive player to foul out. Why didn’t we put more pressure in the paint against bacot?

I remember a couple of years ago when we were beat by NC State 2x when up by 20pts at HT.

We can list out ever year the facts. BROWNELL is a mid-major coach, nice, clean, says all the right things. Not a high level coach and will never be.
Neff will not put up with it and I truly believe that Dan gave him that contract before he left as he knew Neff would have made the change when he took over. The buy out gave brownell job security. The buy out each year becomes more palatable to find a new coach.(Just not sure it’s after this season or next)
We can keep expecting the same until a change is made. 😭

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Re: We have some big issues to fix.

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Jan 11, 2024, 5:57 AM [ in reply to We have some big issues to fix. ]
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Fair assessment.
Hunter has been inconsistent as of late and misses too many shots.

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I love your Proverbs verse - look in the mirror - it applies to your blind

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Jan 11, 2024, 7:30 AM [ in reply to We have some big issues to fix. ]
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takes on CBB - and his pride, too - but he has SOAKED us for A LOT of unearned money before his fall.

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Brad is doing the electric Slide

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Jan 11, 2024, 1:01 AM
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Boogie boogie!

Wow, come on Tigers, way too much talent to be perplexed for sure!

We need to go on a winning run forgetting about the last few or we’ll be dancing with Brad over at the unemployment line.

Mess this up and he may never coach a power 5 team as head coach again.

His specialty was defense, so let us go back to it!

We can do it! Go Tigers🐅🙏🏼

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We keep getting better & better everyday, in every way!
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Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 11, 2024, 5:58 AM
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Oh so we are not playing against Sister Sadie Dinkins Sunday School class again and losing now. Hmm, seems kinda familiar.

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Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 11, 2024, 7:25 AM
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SSDD!

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Out-coached, out-played

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Jan 11, 2024, 9:03 AM
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Out-shot, out-rebounded, out-hustled, out-worked, out-motivated.

Then CBB comes out and says I don't know why the team can't play? That they didn't play defense in the first half?

3-game losing streak, oh-for-2024...but this is the "best team CBB has ever had!"

Add to that, two different players for VT managed to have CAREER HIGHS against CBB's "defensive-minded" schemes? A third player also chipped in a season high. But CBB is a brilliant defensive coach?

How many teams will Clemson play this year where someone has a career-high scoring night. Seems like it's happened twice in a row now, and two in this one game!

What's the excuse THIS time JK and bros?

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Jan 11, 2024, 9:54 AM
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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Re: TNET: Hot-shooting Hokies send No. 21 Clemson to third-straight loss

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Jan 11, 2024, 1:55 PM
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I knew when the acc play started we were gonna start to suck ###....Bradley sucks

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