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Thanks for sharing. That is close to how I would rank them.
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1. DW
2. TL
3. TB
4. KB
5. CK
6. DJ
7. CS
NR: KP (I just don't know how to compare him and that offense to what we started running after Morris got here).
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Re: Mangey: Clemson QB Comparison 2010-2023
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Jan 8, 2024, 9:13 AM
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I'm not saying DJ and CK are of the same caliber* but there is a steep drop off
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Jan 8, 2024, 9:29 AM
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at the WR position in the last few years, especially with a deep threat.
Zero homerun threat allows the defense to sit up closer, close down short routes, and blitz more, thus disrupting the quarterback play.
We HAVE to get some WR separation over 20 yards, and we have to hit those WR with the passes if we are going to be successful.
*Same caliber as TL, DW4, and even TB
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Correct. Look at Tee in the pros. I don't even put him in the top 3 of CU WRs
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Jan 8, 2024, 9:38 AM
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during the glory years. Those would be Sammy, Nuk, and Mike. Yet Tee is an amazing athlete. And don't forget Mr. Automatic 3rd and Refrow.
We have neither the QB nor the WRs to support him as we did under Tahj, DW4, and TLaw.
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And Martavis Bryant who could smoke a fatassss j and then beat everyone down
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Jan 8, 2024, 9:42 AM
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the field for a 60 yard bomb.
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CU Medallion [55787]
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Tru dat. I remember him making some crazy sideline catches.
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Jan 8, 2024, 11:42 AM
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Stuff ain't that hard to do when you up in da chronic and have your consciousness properly expanded.
There's a reason Snoop can coach it...
https://www.netflix.com/title/80157137
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Stats suggest Streeter and DJU better than Riley and CK
Jan 8, 2024, 9:51 AM
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With similar WR and OL.
There’s hope that next year that may change. So yeah “Hope and Change” in 2024?!?!?
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6'1", 185 lbs
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Jan 8, 2024, 9:58 AM
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sounds like Greenr in High School
That brings me zero confidence
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Hold up....McLovin was 6-1 185 in high school
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Re: Stats suggest Streeter and DJU better than Riley and CK
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Jan 8, 2024, 10:26 AM
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Sorry, DJU is an average QB with NO pocket presence, and he can't see the entire field. I've checked this guy out for 4 years, and he's NO pro prospect. He paralyzed Clemson' offense, and he'll do the same at FSU. Some 5-star players don't always make it in college. Klubnik needs to step it up next season, but he's slightly better than DJ. Clemson needs a GREAT QB to get back to their accustomed status, as well as the great receivers. With the advent of the new freshmen receivers recruited, they should be back soon. Beaux Collins, good riddance. You never rose to the level expected either. Too many injuries.
ND is not getting much in him. Great teams always have great players, for history has proven that. Great receivers, great RBs, OL, you name it. So, the recruiting has to take a step up. Streeter and DJU are not better than Riley and Cade. A person with half a brain can see that. Give Riley a few years. It had to happen with DC Venables. he didn't make Clemson defense one of the best in the country overnight.
The intelligent mind says: "give it time".
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Hey. Who are you and where the melk tids at?***
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Re: Again, you come in here with no facts, data,
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An intelligent mind understands the meaning of stats suggest
Jan 8, 2024, 12:23 PM
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A person with a full brain understands performance metrics in evaluation. And typically the most recent metrics are the most important criteria.
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Perhaps Dabos influence on the offense is why we won 5 in a row?
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Jan 8, 2024, 12:18 PM
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Perhaps Dabo placed more of an emphasis on the run game.
Perhaps Dabo went out and got an OL coach who was both a run game coordinator and offensive coordinator.
Perhaps Riley will get our QBR up next year and get many offensive passing stats in the top 20.
So much to ponder in the offseason?!?
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Re: Mangey: Clemson QB Comparison 2010-2023
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Jan 8, 2024, 11:24 AM
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At least Greene did a great job of not fumbling any punts.
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Thanks man, I appreciate that.
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Jan 8, 2024, 11:42 AM
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I did try and fair-catch a kickoff against Greer my senior year and got penalized because the ref said I didn't do it right. Still caught it though.
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