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Oculus Spirit [90820]
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The World order is resetting & the U.S. may be outside the loop
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Mar 3, 2024, 12:30 AM
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in that we are too busy fighting within between ourselves due the Left-wing taking over a dementedly ill President who claimed he would govern as a moderate but lied..
and in increasing our debt to $34 Trillion he has left us in the position where the non-democratic countries are contriving to replace the $ as the accepted currency for buying/selling/paying debt which if successful then the U.S. will fall into a depression never seen in mankind.
Plus, Biden’s poor leadership has caused many rogue governments to take the offensive which have caused havoc across the world and has serious consequences for our continued standing as the world’s leader of democratic values..
which the American Left has been involved in belittling by trying to destroy the family unit, overpowering parental rights over children, skirting around the Constitution, militarizing the courts & DOJ, using race as a dividing tool, jailing those who oppose them, etc.
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Re: The World order is resetting & the U.S. may be outside the loop
Mar 3, 2024, 1:06 AM
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Tick, tock, tick, tock,... Bingo
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Re: The World order is resetting & the U.S. may be outside the loop
Mar 3, 2024, 8:52 AM
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100%. Once the leftists are finished with Obama's Fundamental Transformation, the US will be in no financial position to fund the military required to keep the world at peace.
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Re: The World order is resetting & the U.S. may be outside the loop
Mar 3, 2024, 9:02 AM
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We have government officials trying to remove the leading candidate of the opposition party from the ballot, so that people can't vote for him. I would hope, right now, the rest of the world is not looking to us for its democratic values.
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Re: The World order is resetting & the U.S. may be outside the loop
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Mar 3, 2024, 9:53 AM
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I'm sorry, but that's incredibly disingenuous, considering the person that some are trying to remove from the ballot tried to steal an election in full view of the world, which is exactly what his eligibility is being contested over. Trump won't play by the rules of the game, much less the laws of the land...which in virtually any other contest in any other arena, would result in his immediate disqualification.
I can promise you very few people outside the US except maybe in Russia would disagree with the notion that Trump deserves to be removed, and removing a leader in Russia has historically been something that happens with guns and tanks. Ask any foreigner you meet and the answer will likely be the same.
The biggest concern most foreigners have with the US is actually that Trump ever got into office in the first place.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/06/10/americas-image-abroad-rebounds-with-transition-from-trump-to-biden/
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Re: The World order is resetting & the U.S. may be outside the loop
Mar 3, 2024, 10:20 AM
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People who believe in democracy want voters to decide elections. People who want authoritarianism do not want voters to decide elections. That's very basic to democracy.
You can't protect democracy by removing people from the ballot. That's like saying you're going to protect your house from a tornado by building it entirely of glass.
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Re: The World order is resetting & the U.S. may be outside the loop
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Mar 3, 2024, 12:20 PM
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The problem is that Trump himself doesn't believe in democracy. He's shown that beyond any kind of reasonable doubt.
Do Americans - especially what's going to be a significant minority of Americans, considering the gap between the popular vote and electoral college grows every election - have the right to vote away democracy to a guy who's overtly advocating an authoritarian takeover on Day 1 of his next term?
I completely disagree with that. I want the right to vote again the future. And I'll fight anyone who tries to take that from me. So, I suspect, will millions of other Americans. If you think I'm being dramatic, read up the 2025 Project...it's basically a playbook for an authoritarian takeover that reads remarkably like what Hitler advocated in Mein Kampf, which he wrote in the late 20's when he spent a spell in the pokey for his first (failed) insurrection in the Beer Hall Putsch of '23. (Which also looked remarkably like J6, check the photos.)
Hitler learned. He was a lot more ready the second time around, and had an alternate government already built and ready to go...and the second he got his hands on power again, he just turned the replacement government on, shut down the old one, and away the world went. The 2025 Project is eerily similar. The hardcore MAGA's certainly seem to have learned as well.
At the end of the day, you simply can't protect democracy by allowing authoritarians bent on destroying it to run, you have to choose.
When somebody tells you who they are, believe them. This is...spooky stuff.
https://www.project2025.org/playbook/
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Re: The World order is resetting & the U.S. may be outside the loop
Mar 3, 2024, 2:16 PM
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Especially considering there are a significant number of Americans that want to vote for Trump, if you remove him from the ballot, you won't have to worry about him ending democracy. It will already be over. Government officials of an opposition party will have stripped millions of Americans of the right to vote for the candidate of their choice.
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So vote Trump and no one has to worry about the National debt .***
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Mar 3, 2024, 9:37 AM
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Re: So vote Trump and no one has to worry about the National debt .***
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Mar 3, 2024, 10:10 AM
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Trump repeatedly promised us that he would elminate the national debt during his first campaign,as if there was not a red flag early on that the guy was not sincere.
And Bill, Reaganomics sent us down this path 40 years ago. If you want to know why the country is 34 trillion in debt, it is because of a failed Tax policy experiment that we are still conducting to this day. Raising taxes is no longer in the vernacular for either party, it will result in you losing your job, so we are in a race to the bottom of the garbage heap. Your generation reaped the rewards of putting trillions of dollars on the credit card, so do not come complaining to us about how much debt we are in, you will be long gone once the #### hits the fan.
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Re: You forgot the part about Biden waiting for Taylor Swift's signal....
Mar 3, 2024, 10:06 AM
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Another Blue Hat attaches a link (imagine that) because they have no thoughts of their own. I'm sure they don't understand stats can be manipulated any way you want. Tell us what YOU think. Oh yeah, the demoncrats won't allow that.
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My links support my thinking....
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Mar 3, 2024, 10:11 AM
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Don't tell me what to do.
I am telling you what I think, and I'm backing it up with facts. If you don't like the links, or are too challenged in reading comprehension, you're free to ignore them. I couldn't care less.
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Re: My links support my thinking....
Mar 3, 2024, 8:24 PM
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Good for you. Find the links you like. I'm sure you go through and fact check everyone.
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Re: The World order is resetting & the U.S. may be outside the loop
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Mar 3, 2024, 10:30 AM
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The world order is indeed resetting. You got that much right. As for the rest...lordy, some folks like to politicize everything. Most global trends have little to do with internal US politics.
The reason BRICS is trying to displace our currency has nothing to do with our debt. BRICS means "Brazil Russia India China South Africa"...and except for South Africa these are major world powers that have long resented our dominance over world affairs. Brazil and India have always been almost 100% self-motivated and are real friends to no one; Russia and China are actively hostile to most everyone else. And South Africa is in an insane tailspin owing to an incredibly corrupt government that's running what was once Africa's primary power straight into the ground.
This is why BRICS is and always has been a pipe dream. None of these powers have stable enough economies or a sufficient track record of abiding by international law to remotely establish a currency anyone else in the world would trust. You think Germany or Poland or Finland or Taiwan or Argentina - which is actually switching to US dollars! - would trust it? For all our flaws the most-trusted currency in the world remains the dollar and it isn't close.
The reason why the world order is resetting has little to do with anyone else and mostly to do with us. Globalism is a policy that no longer suits needs. Trump - to his credit - began a huge transition towards isolationism and protectionism and while Biden engages a lot more with the world than Trump ever did, he's also doubled down on Trump's protectionist trade policies. Increasingly we're pulling back from playing International mall cop. Our economy is continuing to grow for one simple reason while the rest of the world falters: industry is flooding back from Asia - especially China - and we're reshoring industry at an astounding rate faster than we built factories back in WW2. That's just where we're going now, regardless of who's in office. Why would we keep the sea lanes clear for our adversaries, on our own dime? We won't.
The US - actually, North America - has every resource and industrial potential we need on our side of the pond, and maintaining the world order that has existed for almost the last 80 years since WW2 ended is increasingly not in our interest. We built that order for one reason and that was to contain the Soviet Union...which clearly no longer exists. So we're pulling back...though anybody with even a slight amount of long-term vision would agree it's also in our interest to ensure a drastically weakened Russia doesn't rebuild its old empire. The rest can burn. (And it probably will.)
What you're seeing across the world is opportunistic powers rushing in to fill the void we're leaving. Which is ironic, considering it was the world order we have maintained for the last 80 years that has allowed so many of these nations to flourish. What happens if we weren't there to keep the Red Sea clear of Houthi and Iranian piracy? China's shipping lines to the Middle East and Europe would instantly be cut. And five years from now - probably sooner than that - we simply aren't going to be there. If it wasn't an election year and the fact that gas shocks disrupt economic recoveries, we likely wouldn't be there now.
The rest of the world may not like us, but they'll sure miss the mall cop that allowed the world market to exist once we're gone. Which is going to be soon. Biden or Trump or anyone else, that's a transition that simply can't be stopped now.
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Re: The World order is resetting & the U.S. may be outside the loop
Mar 3, 2024, 10:54 AM
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Excellent summary - thank you.
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Trade with China gets the headlines but the significance of other companies.
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Mar 3, 2024, 12:05 PM
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… is undervalued. Mexico, Canada and the European Union are extremely significant trading partners. Trade with Pacific rim countries like Japan, South Korea, Australia and even Vietnam also form an interesting bloc of trade partners. Some retrenching on global engagement and trade makes sense and is inevitable. It should also be remembered that US’s old school military alliances along with trade agreements also enhance US economic development. Something to be said for focusing on the important economic trade relationships and not overreaching to to confront every move by China, Russia or the Middle East.
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.. the significance of other countries.***
Mar 3, 2024, 12:06 PM
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Re: Trade with China gets the headlines but the significance of other companies.
Mar 3, 2024, 12:28 PM
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That's pretty much where we seem to be going. We've already got huge trade deals set up with both Australia and Japan. Vietnam is taking up the slack created by dwindling Chinese manufacturing. NAFTA 2 - which was a bonified feather in Trump's cap - advantageously partners us with Canada and Mexico. England absolutely has to jump on board since they went and Brexited out of the EU; we're the only game left.
The only one I'm not sure about South Korea. The only country with a worse demographic crisis is China. I don't know if they'll make it as a viable economic power, especially with neighbors like China and North Korea around then. The current projections say they're effed. (Along with Germany and Italy, by the way.)
That's pretty much likely to be the limit of our future world. The rest...honestly, it likely won't matter much.
Much of the rest of the world is probably going to eat itself. The ones keeping the peace were us.
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Re: The World order is resetting & the U.S. may be outside the loop
Mar 3, 2024, 8:34 PM
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Kinda like getting left out of the sec/big expansion.
pffffft
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