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The term "conspiracy theories" and its common invocation...
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Jul 26, 2023, 12:57 PM
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It's been 75 years since Roswell and the government has kept a lid on UFO/UAP stories, investigations, and revelations...
No way, right...?
Now, about those two hours on 9/11...
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You believe aliens have visited here?***
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Maybe 100,000 years ago..***
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could have been 1 billion years ago and then they
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would have said they found single cell life or 5 billion years ago when we were a dust and cloud nebula or 10 billion years ago when we were a totally different star system before supernova or 60 million years ago and they decided to wipe out the dinosaurs.
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YES! Actually, I believe in genetic modification enhancement
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and recent archeological discoveries have blown up previously accepted timelines.
Name a major culture or religion that DOESN'T attribute its origins to "The Heavens"...
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That's a default psychology to the unknown.
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Jul 26, 2023, 1:07 PM
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So you believe an interstellar alien species wrecked their ship in Roswell?
Or do you only believe that an interstellar alien species seeded life on this planet?
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Both.***
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What is your theory on why an alien civilization so
Jul 26, 2023, 1:15 PM
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far intellectually and technologically advanced than us hasn't destroyed us? And how did they wreck a ship here?
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The ones discussed in the House today didn't wreck...
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Jul 26, 2023, 1:18 PM
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Maybe we're their 'lab experiment'. Did you ever have an ant farm?
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Horrible cover of MJ song***
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I'm not your research assistant. Do your own.***
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Re: I'm not your research assistant. Do your own.***
Jul 26, 2023, 3:42 PM
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The point was, it doesnāt exist.
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Re: I'm not your research assistant. Do your own.***
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Wrong. Recent articles about this exist. That the federal government is crafting a law to remove some of the secrecy about non-earth-like matter or structures (info currently in the domain of the DoD) suggests that the āUFO conspiracyā wise cracks have been a bit over top.
Also, the earth is not flat. Donāt expect anyone to provide a link for you on that āconspiracy theoryā either.
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Re: I'm not your research assistant. Do your own.***
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Oh, buddy, you don't get to call anyone out as a conspiracy theorist.
> recent archeological discoveries have blown up previously accepted timelines.
This was the claim I was refuting. This does not exist, and I'm told to "google it" because you guys know you can't provide it.
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Re: The term "conspiracy theories" and its common invocation...
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Yeas, but you believe in the most idiotic one known to man.
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Which is...?***
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Re: Which is...?***
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I am sure there are plenty, buy 9/11 attacking ourselves shows that you poor enough and dumb enough to not understand how money and the very elite work in this country. I know for a fact you are too stupid to know the connections of people in that building. You're an idiot. You have never been around a lot of money and wealthy people. You're ignorant to believe tha nonsense.
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Take your meds, Carl***
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Re: Take your meds, Carl***
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Are you? You are about die aren't you? You are very old be such a drunk. You believe that we attacked ourselves on 9/11? I am sure there are a handful for your old drunk ### to stay alive? What are you on by the way?
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Re: Take your meds, Carl***
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I don't believe it. I know it! Quite honestly, you really have to be so #### stupid to believe the narrative of events they push. So, so many holes.
Now the "we" we speak of is the CIA/Mossad/MI6 which are all the same.
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Re: Take your meds, Carl***
Jul 26, 2023, 5:36 PM
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Seek mental help. You have shown that already with your delusions. Maybe a bunch of need mental help for various, but yours would be flr.be delusional and out of touch with reality.
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Re: Take your meds, Carl***
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Again, you have to be a complete idiot to actually believe the lie of 9/11
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They got the Patriot Act, the 'security state', and two
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Jul 26, 2023, 1:33 PM
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decades of unaccounted war funds... No, I don't understand how "money and the very elite work"... You don't have a clue, boy.
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Re: They got the Patriot Act, the 'security state', and two
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You're not smart enough to know what "connections" are like in those settings. The most powerful family's children and other friends dnd relatives were in there. I don't think you understood who were, and that's just scratching the surface or your idiocy. Youre naive and underexposed.
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Oh, you're so frickin' all-knowing... Don't have a clue.***
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Also, who is this "most powerful family" you speak of...?
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Re: Oh, you're so frickin' all-knowing... Don't have a clue.***
Jul 26, 2023, 2:09 PM
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I know some of the most people in the country. I grew up with them. Believe me their kids aren't getting massacred and people aren't murdering them. You're an idiot.
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You know "some of the most people in the country"... OK.***
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Re: You know "some of the most people in the country"... OK.***
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I am from Newport Beach, CA. That said I know the Guggenheims, Rothschild,children or the biggest companies in the United States. I know the biggest from our country. Believe me you're an idiot. Pick a new conspiracy.
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Re: Wait
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I knew the owner of the Dodgers, Lakers, Reds, the CEO of US Steel from Alabama. I knew the kids of the biggest banks in America. Thays just scratching the surface. Heck, my neighbor 3 doors was Reggie Jackson. Another block away it was Pedro Pascal. Those were justbfun people. I was the worst student of all. I went to Clemson. They all went Vandy, NYU, Ivy League, Stanford, UCLA, etc. Some of those people died in the WTC or people they knew. Only an idiot would think we attacked our own towers. It wouldn't be necessary.
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Re: I believe you. It just reminds me of
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Of course, but that's how these rich towns go and when you know people from elite universities. It's just life. People that are dumb just think all the rich people have no morals and are all in of the conspiracies. It wouldn't take much to find a reason to invade Iraq. There was no upside killing so many powerful people, killing people in general, messing with our stock market, etc etc. It's just so idiotic that someone would think that was any American's interest.
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Is this some lame axe attempt at a joke...?***
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Re: Is this some lame axe attempt at a joke...?***
Jul 26, 2023, 6:16 PM
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It's just fact. You're just an idiot.
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Re: Is this some lame axe attempt at a joke...?***
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I get it now.
Kid with rich parents has superficial relationship with other rich people, many of whom also grew up as silver spoon kids. Some of the others are wealthy entertainers.
By osmosis, their vast intelligence and life experiences (ranking of African safaris, robust discussions about which exotic sauces go best on striped narwhal steaks, complaining about why the Rembrandt in your bedroom does not go with the Tutankhamen decor, etc.) infuses you with their superior intelligence.
Of course, you and your privileged pals couldnāt solve a HS algebra āwordā problem if your lives depended on it ā¦ but thatās the kind of thing that your tutors and parentsā accountants do.
You and your āfacts.ā Incurious rich people believe whatever keeps them on the invite list to exclusive social events thrown by other incurious rich people. Congrats for being borne into privilege.
Privilege is worth more than brains ā¦ you win!
Jeeves is calling. Be safe ā¦ polo horses can be temperamental.
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That was good, dude... As an aside, I grew up a few hundred
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yards from one of the oldest polo fields in the country. My best benefit from it... the polo pony exercise girls. ALL were older than me. I was the young 'novelty'. ;~)
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Re: I believe you. It just reminds me of
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Here is where your logic has gone astray. America's interest is something they don't care one bit about. They are satanic!
Perfect example. Why has Switzerland always been neutral? Where are all those some bankers real assets? They lend to both sides and make $ no matter what. They don't care who wins. Period
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Re: I believe you. It just reminds me of
Jul 27, 2023, 1:09 PM
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Seek mental help.
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Re: You know "some of the most people in the country"... OK.***
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Here are the satanic bloodline families that are somewhat known but they are still pawns:
Astor
Bundy
Collins
Li
Kennedy
Freeman
DuPont
Onassis
Reynolds
Rockefeller
Rothschilds
Russell
Van Duyn
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Re: You know "some of the most people in the country"... OK.***
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The people who assert that WTC Bldg 7 collapsed from the heat caused by burning debris from WTC 1 and WTC 2 are contradicted by structural engineers that also understand how heat from combustion works.
Burning debris, while a spectacular sight, is not especially hot when it reaches ground level. The atmospheric oxygen needed for efficient combustion of the flammable components of the debris is āstarved.ā This is especially true in built up areas where winds containing āunused / newā oxygen are constrained by other buildings which impede the influx of fresh air. Furthermore, burning debris from buildings possess non-flammable materials (gypsum board, thin metal ductwork pieces, etc) which also interfere with the efficient combustion of the flammable components.
In summary, the comparatively low heat from burning debris relative to the high heat from jet fuel fire at high altitudes (where flow of fresh air is essentially unconstrained) could reach temperatures that would soften structural steel.
WTC 7 constructed without structural steel? Unless it were built of wood (which it wasnāt), then a 7 story masonry building would not have collapsed.
Ever see old WW II photos of the carnage at Stalingrad from Sept 1943? Germany firebombed the entire city. These incendiary bombs were designed to be super hot; far more heat than what burning debris would produce to ignite a building. Stalingrad was no where nearly as built up with high density medium rise & high rise buildings as at WTC. The tall buildings were primarily masonry and wood. What is especially noteworthy about Stalingrad was that the taller buildings did not collapse from the fires. Explosive bombs did destroy buildings; but incendiaries left the structures intact even though the insides were burned out.
Willfully ignorant people choose to dismiss any questions and facts which may contradict their comfort zone of taking official causes of WTC 7 collapse at face value. Same as those who insisted that COVID vax āconspiracy theoristsā were wacko when challenging the official narrative that the vaxes were safe, stopped contraction of COVID, prevented spread of COVID, and that acquired natural immunity to Covid itself was a myth. Those ābelieve what the authorities told usā sheep with respect to the official Covid narrative? Wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong.
Yet, despite being convinced that the earth was flat, THIS time (WTC 7), they KNOW that they are right. Ignorance is bliss.
Dupes will be dupes.
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Supertramp KNEW..way back in 1979!!1!
Jul 26, 2023, 6:19 PM
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They knew so much they put it in there backwards...to see if anyone would figure it out!
Really begs teh question though
1) Why didn't they know how stupid "the logical song" was
2) why didn't they know that only 4 short years later they'd break up?
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BTW...
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This is some of the kookiest #### you have ever posted.
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Kooky, isn't it...?
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https://the-lone-gunmen.fandom.com/wiki/Pre_9/11_controversy Pre 9/11 controversy In The Lone Gunmenās premiere episode, āPilotā, which aired March 4, 2001, members of the U.S. government conspire to hijack an airliner, almost hitting the World Trade Center, and blame the act on terrorists to gain support for a new profit-making war. The episode aired six months prior to the...
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Re: Kooky, isn't it...?
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GESARA was also due to start 9/12. It didn't happen yet.
These people are sick
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It's always amusing when these conspiracy guys
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finally come out and blame it all on the Jews. You know it's coming. It's only a matter of when.
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Man I would love to see inside your life for just one day
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I bet its complete chaos.
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Two things I would want to understand:
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a) What compels a person to click on a link to killuminatisoldiersoftrutĀh.wordpress.com,
and b) What compels a person to believe anything he reads on there.
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Re: They got the Patriot Act, the 'security state', and two
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Yeah, a bunch of filthy rich people with powerful connections were killed by our own government to put in a security state and start wars that probably could have happened without 9/11. And no one connected to all those powerful people did anything about it.
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Exactly what were those "powerful people" going to do?
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The better question... "Who were the actual 'powerful people'...?"
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I have come to the conclusion the government would prefer
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people believe in aliens, as opposed to any other country possessing technology we don't have. Just a hunch, but if I was the government, and knew Russia and/or China had technologies we don't have, it would be better if the public thought, if discovered, that those technologies came from aliens rather than an adversary.
As for the existence of aliens, odds are they exist, just by simple numbers there should be SOME FORM of life out there. That being said, life with higher intelligence than Earth, right now, today, with humans, may be exceedingly rare, or maybe even non-existent. I say this for one main reason. For almost 90 years, humans have been blasting space with radio waves. Any higher being within 90 light years, should be able to locate radio signals coming from Earth. Over 90 light years away, no one would know our presence. But the real kicker here is that Earth is billions of years old, and life on Earth has been around about 3.5 BILLION of those years. And for 3,499,999,910 years, no life on Earth ever produced any type of signal that could traverse the cosmos that would indicate to anyone else, anywhere, that there was intelligent life on Earth. It took THAT LONG for life to evolve to a point where the first artificial signal left Earth and traveled into deep space.
So, IF there was intelligent life out there, with equal or higher intelligence than we have on Earth, odds are we would have found some indicator. A radio signal, or some other signal. We haven't. And any life form that would have the capability of traveling to Earth, they would have had, at some point, to have evolved to a point where they sent signals into space. And then evolved further to travel in space. Again emitting signals. We have never found one, and we've spent considerable resources looking.
LSS - I think humans on Earth, presently, are the, or among the VERY FEW higher forms of life in the universe. It took an amazing period of time to get to where we are, and a whole lot of luck. If there was life out there above humans in intelligence, they're fleeting and extremely rare. Sadly, I think these periods of higher life may be more common, possibly, but also are exceedingly brief in time. Like I said, humans have been sending signals into space for only 90 years. I doubt in 5,000 years we will be sending signals into space anymore. Odds are we will be surpassed by some other form of life, or go extinct. Either way, higher forms of life across the universe are rare, and even if they do exist, the period they can send signals is very brief. And to get to Earth from out of our solar system, well, that's a stretch beyond what appears possible, based on our own experience.
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90 light year bubble is so so so small.
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People cannot grasp just how big space is.
Aliens definitely exist. But the issue you mentioned on time and distance means that we'll never interact.
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...according to our current understanding of physics.***
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If they could travel FTL or utilize wormholes,
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then how wouldn't they have a cloaking technology to prevent us from knowing their existence?
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Now that IS an interesting question... "Revelations"...?***
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What is "Revelations"?***
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It's a book in the Bible... or an exposure to the unknown.***
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I'm aware of the book of Revelations, but that doesn't
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pertain at all to what we're talking about with regards to aliens...
Do you have a specific chapter or verse you'd like to steer me to? I've written two exegesis papers on Revelations...
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No, but how and where did Moses get the Ten Commandments...?
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What are your thoughts on the Book of Ezekiel...?
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Re: No, but how and where did Moses get the Ten Commandments...?
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You probably need mental help with investigating further. You are every similar to Qnaon
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Attack the messenger. Never debate the topic. PUNK SOP.***
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Re: Attack the messenger. Never debate the topic. PUNK SOP.***
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There is nothing to debate. Only an idiot would believe that has been around.
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Are you having problems writing coherent sentences...?
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You seemingly keep skipping/omitting words.
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Re: Are you having problems writing coherent sentences...?
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Boy George has a limited repertoire of insults.
Leave him alone for a while so that he can get some new ones from his alien friends.
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The 10 Commandments are pretty easily described as
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moral guidelines to live, I have no qualms thinking that Moses made those up.
Nothing in The Bible can be taken literally, so I'm not sure what to take from Exzekiel.
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It's not just The Bible... "From the heavens" is central to
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Like I said above, that's default human psychology.
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You look up, see stars, vastness of space, and it has always been human nature to point to it for explanations unknown.
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Right... and the craft they arrived in. ALL cultures...***
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They didnāt all come up with it alone. Majority of all
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cultures and religions copy each otherā¦
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Many of these cultures, according to accepted theory, had
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never had any interactions... again, all over the world.
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Re: Many of these cultures, according to accepted theory, had
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People get it ahead you're a idiot. Do yourselve and stop posting on this thread . I know I am known as harsh, but 99% of the peeps thinks you're a moron who is brain is mush.
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Maybe get one of the 99% to translate that last gibberish..
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By the way, I'm the OP....My thread. Scoot along, boy.
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The way I remember it, they were from GOD, but....***
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Except for one thing. There may be a higher form of life
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that can cloak their existence/signals, use wormholes, or whatever. BUT, as that life evolved to the point they could cloak their existence, or other life forms, at some point they would have emitted radio and other signals before inventing a cloak for those signals. We haven't yet. It's like you have to invent computers and the internet before you can invent encryption and Twitter.
We should have been able to find some signal from some place, at some time, and we haven't yet. It could have been signals existed 500,000 years ago and are gone now, but if this was happening frequently, we should have found one, from some place, and time. That's my only point. If there is life as advanced as humans on Earth, it's exceedingly rare, if it exists at all. Now I think there's a lot of life out there, but we're close to the apex of it. Nature on Earth anyway, simply does not allow a species to exist beyond the planet's capacity to support the life form. Nature ALWAYS has some other life form waiting to take advantage of an overpopulation situation. Then you have natural disasters, pandemics, meteors, many things that can reset life in those 3.5 billion years. And life will reset again on Earth at some point. And you know the process is similar in other places teeming with life. Something is always rising, becoming dominant, then declines because some other species takes advantage, and/or some disaster happens, or resources otherwise become scarce.
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I completely understand your premise... Another unknown.***
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The Milky Way is 100,000 light years across, and we're
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on an edge of one. Alien civilizations could've been blasting radio waves for 50,000 years and we haven't seen them yet if they were positioned far enough away - and that's just our galaxy.
Just, so, so, so, big. Figuratively puts my brain into a freeze cycle trying to comprehend the vastness of this.
Expeditionary Force book series is kinda fun, it's mostly just slap happy but it does cover some good interstellar travel mechanics and galaxy issues.
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Re: If they could travel FTL or utilize wormholes,
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Something inter-dimensional seems far more likely, such as crossing through the multiverse. Perhaps a version of humans that evolved and advanced better than most because something didn't happen in their timeline to hold them back. As you point out, mere distance complicates the idea that aliens are here (and for what purpose if just hiding around for decades?).
But the multiverse theory is far more plausible, IMO, and I could see a civilization learning how to cross into that.
They probably do have cloaking but #### could break down sometimes. Or maybe they just don't GAF because they know they can dodge us enough and no one will take the claims seriously.
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Now I feel I've crossed into a new dimension..."The Horror!"
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Just kidding... Kinda interesting where 'conspiracy theories' converge and diverge.
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Or it could be inter-dimensional travel ala string theory...
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They could be literally Billions of years ahead of us technologically.
The testimony of the pilots today stated that what they witnessed was beyond anything we currently understand about physics.
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Again, that's great, except any species that has that
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technology, had to evolve to a point of acquiring it. In that period of time, they would have shown signals we would recognize, even if they evolved beyond our capacity to understand their signals. They would have evolved THROUGH A PERIOD OF TIME, when their fly would have been open, just as we are, and others I would assume. These signals would originate at different points in space, but more importantly in time. So even if we found a signal, that may be from some race that's perfected quantum time travel, or whatever else, BUT they had to, at some point in their development, send signals into space we would recognize as artificial.
The fact it too basically the entire existence of planet Earth to send an artificial signal into space, does not bode well for evolution beyond our own happening frequently, especially given the lack of artificial noise in the universe.
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Do radio signals travel inter-dimensionally? I don't know.***
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Re: Do radio signals travel inter-dimensionally? I don't know.***
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Given that the most commonly known dimensions are X axis (letās call that length), Y axis (letās call that height), and Z axis (letās call that width), radio waves can indeed be induced to travel āinterdimensionally.ā
Magnetic fields bend radio waves in the X, Y, and Z dimensions.
Is this relevant to your question?
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No, that is not what is meant by this. Lol.***
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Re: Again, that's great, except any species that has that
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No single linear signal that is emitted from the same source and from the same place will ever end up at the same destination. Even if the origin point of the signal could somehow remain āfixedā as the true (hypothetical) center of the universe, no other site in the universe would also remain as a fixed point.
Therefore, if the one such single alien radio wave were to have hit earth prior to 1850, then we wouldnāt have ever known about it.
Even with billions and billions of super intelligent societies (likely) āout there,ā the enormity of distance between each divergent radio wave emitted ā¦ with divergence being in proportion to the increase in the radius from the point of origination ā¦ any single āadvanced societyāsā radio waves would have a probability of coinciding with the earthās path that is not quite zero, but darn close.
Again, since we havenāt even been able to measure radio waves until ~ 200 years ago, weād have missed recognizing ~ 3.5 billion years of time when such waves had hit earth.
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Re: Or it could be inter-dimensional travel ala string theory...
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> The testimony of the pilots today stated that what they witnessed was beyond anything we currently understand about physics.
Ok... but to jump from that testimony to the conclusion that they are aliens is a huge stretch.
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He stated "biologics" were recovered in the crashes...
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I'm going to wait and see how it plays out...
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Agreement... I'll be danged!***
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As a math nerd, I'm genuinely curious how they come up with these predictions
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for alien life. Essentially, we really only know what WE needed to get to today, but that doesn't mean there aren't other ways. So there's the obvious stuff like being in the Goldilocks zone and the right mix of elements, but then there's all the crazy #### specific to Earth like a proportionally large moon, a Jupiter to regulate asteroids (this is actually really divisive for space nerds), walking upright to use tools, the right anatomy for speech etc. There's even this debate in evolution (if you believe in that sorta thing) where there were potentially smarter hominids who went extinct despite their bigger brains.
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See.... We can agree sometimes. Maybe we'll know soon.***
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Lots and lots of (far smarter than us) life out there
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Other forms of intelligent life could easily have had developed AI ābeingsā which were made from āagelessā materials.
Ageless materials, you say?
Deep within the earth, common minerals (based on their molecular composition) take on physical structures (due to combination of enormous pressure and temperature) that cannot be duplicated (as yet) by āmodernā mankind. These ādifferentā physical structures can be predicted from bond angle / bond length calculations which reflect pressures and temperatures which cannot be measured.
It is very reasonable that some alien population with far greater intelligence than humankind could (or had) learned how to make such materials, engineer fancy gadgets and whiz bangs from them, and then (having sent them billions and billions of years ago) into outer space at very very very nearly the speed of light.
Furthermore, because some people on TNet have promised me that the universe is pretty big, it seems certain that many many such āmore advanced than the typical sociology professorā beings are āout there.ā Even with billions of such societies out there, the probability that any one trace of their billions of years ago flying gadgets hit earth is incredibly small. But if enough of those truly advanced societies are out there, each sending their own āagelessā self propelled gadgets into space that redirect themselves to follow the path of radio waves, maybe one or two such of these advanced whatchamacallits might land on earth where we could find it.
Xxxxx
Why are there so many āsuper advancedā aliens out there?
Not nearly as many advanced societies as there are incredibly primitive / RNA āstate of the artā stage of existence alien life.
The Jetsons are outside waiting to pick me up. Later.
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It's called the Great Filter...***
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Re: Lots and lots of (far smarter than us) life out there
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Casual critics donāt understand Christianity or Christians.
Nothing among my stated opinions on the alien thingy contradicts the existence of God or that Jesus isnāt the Son of God.
This discussion is probably better held on TNetās P&R board.
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The one great thing about DJT,
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is that if we were covering up aliens, he would have tweeted (xded?) about it. "Had a great meeting with Xerpxerp today. Gonna build a hotel on Zizmar 8. Take that haters."
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Oh no, spoke too soon
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Re: Oh no, spoke too soon
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Spoofs are a bit hard for the typical lefty to understand.
Oh well ā¦
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He makes a nice living off of that position. No facts, tho.***
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I mean, you don't have them either. Using the
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magic "government hid them" button doesn't count either.
The secret could've been possible with infosec 30 years ago because the Internet, world-wide platform to share content, and digital recording devices didn't exist like they do today, but it would've been fully leaked and verifiable at this point.
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The first ever hearing in Congress under oath just occurred.
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Closed sessions with the House are to follow.
I'm waiting to see if the whistleblowers can produce enough evidence to justify further investigations and "revelations".
I don't have the USN radar data just like I don't have H. Biden's illegal bank records. I DO believe they both exist.
According to all three's testimony today, the "government hid them" is EXACTLY what happened.
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Re: The term "conspiracy theories" and its common invocation...
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When the government has questions about the behavior of a citizen its an investigation. When citizens have questions about the behavior of the government its a conspiracy theory. That term is used to keep you under control and them above the law.
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uh oh, NERD ALERT***
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If you knew me, that might be the LAST thing you'd say...
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Really.
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Re: If you knew me, that might be the LAST thing you'd say...
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As long you didn't let anyone you were nutcase verbally.
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Says the guy stuttering through almost every sentence...***
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Dude, you're dumber than a rock. That KS know ny at the least 95% of the people here. You might have Tom and NJDEV that think you have it all figured out.
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Could I get a translation...?***
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Re: Could I get a translation...?***
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Yes...You're an idiot. There you go.
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Re: uh oh, NERD ALERT***
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Same here. I'm reading this in a wth am I reading?
And I've always thought of myself as a little bit of a nerd. š¤£
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Re: uh oh, NERD ALERT***
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What's confusing you? The idiot conspiracy theories?
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Conspiracy! Conspiracy! Conspiracy!... Pathetic.***
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Re: Conspiracy! Conspiracy! Conspiracy!... Pathetic.***
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Yes..very. Good work.
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Re: uh oh, NERD ALERT***
Jul 26, 2023, 7:00 PM
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The inter-dimensional, wormhole, etc talk.
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Re: The term "conspiracy theories" and its common invocation...
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Jul 26, 2023, 7:58 PM
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Next Fed Reserve Chair, amaurat?
https://youtu.be/cCWTgjPKaHE
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Trump gem re: Existence of outer space aliens
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Jul 26, 2023, 9:12 PM
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Trump posted on one of the social media outlets something along these lines:
āLetās hope that there are not any outer space aliens. If they are out there, then the United States will start sending them money.ā
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Nah, they'll probably just want the gold and the diamonds.
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Jul 27, 2023, 1:33 PM
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Somebody, sometime, somewhere made those 'precious'...
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Awesome thread to read. Thanks to you all.***
Jul 27, 2023, 1:55 PM
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Eisenhower warned but Kennedy didn't listen...***
Jul 29, 2023, 2:15 AM
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