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Re: Get Your Cameras Ready........He Gone.***
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You are probably right - maybe we can get 1 glimpse of him wearing The Paw at
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…the spring game….maybe.
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drew rosenhaus though... he's gonna require big money for his clients.. CFB is
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so screwed up now.
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Re: drew rosenhaus though... he's gonna require big money for his clients.. CFB is
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Agreed--CF is a mess.
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He doesn't have to require it from the school...
Jan 30, 2024, 6:06 PM
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Rosenhaus is going directly to the advertisers and keeping the school completely out of it. However, he could be a pain for the coaching staff to "influence whether or not Westco red-shirts or starts game 1, gets enough balls thrown his way or gets enough touches. Those things could heavily influence a transfer decision if Westco isn't "featured" to up his value in NIL money...
So, I can agree, CFB is screwed if these agents begin influencing through pressure how teams play.
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Re: He doesn't have to require it from the school...
Jan 30, 2024, 6:57 PM
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He will not get anywhere near the Clemson coaching staff. Dabo wil have no problem telling Rosenhaus to bug off.
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Gone to the End Zone maybe.
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Good for him as he now has an agent that can help generate additional NIL deals for him over his career here. Clemson has one of the top branding production facilities in the country, thanks largely to Dabo's vision and proactive take when NIL first came to light. Between the power of the paw, our outstanding national image, and access to our established branding resources, Clemson is a very attractive location for agents like this to have clients based.
The Drew Rosenhaus's of the world aren't getting rich off of NIL / booster cuts for a few years here and there - they make their bank off of legit marketing deals and pro contracts up ahead, a 'stable of stars' in their portfolio. You can rest assured that if Drew or any other agent were to engage in free agent style activity with our players then they would be barred from campus and enter persona non grata territory within the entire athletics program. We are not a program that you want to be shut out from for life if you're in that field.
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Jan 30, 2024, 1:40 PM
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…are detecting a lot of wishful chicken brains projecting what they want to happen. Usually the ones who forecast with extreme confidence but without a shred of information or credibility.
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
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That’s not a good sign. Kids that typically prioritize money usually don’t work out at Clemson.
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
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From everything I've seen, Wesco isn't an ego or money driven kid. Seems pretty quiet and reserved actually. Just think this is a case of Rosenhaus betting he'll be a top WR before it's all said and done and he'll be in line as his next big NFL client.
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
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This kinda disproves everything you’ve seen. He obviously cares about the money. He will be gone by next year at the latest.
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
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MOST ALL THE KIDS HAVE AGENTS OF FINANCIAL CONSULTANTS. EVEN BASEBALL GUYS.
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Tell 'em pheebo LOL
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Re: that's such a ridiculous take
Jan 30, 2024, 7:54 AM
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Are you a Clemson fan?
That sounds like something a gamecock fan would say
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So, you question ones "fandom" when........
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that person calls out yet another ridiculous "fan" take & mindset of another fan who calls out/questions the "priorities" of a player when they accept an NIL deal??????........seriously???
somebody "@" one of our commits for accepting an NIL deal............and all of a sudden it's "NOT A GOOD SIGN"????????????? What about the rest of our current players who have NIL deals??.......is that not a good sign either? Do you question their character, integrity, and/or priorities????????
again....the Clemson "HOLIER THAN THOU" mentality is rampant amongst Clemson "fans"
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Lay off the gratuitous punctuation. Hurting my eyes.
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
Jan 30, 2024, 7:23 AM [ in reply to Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit ]
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Why are we faulting kids for trying to make money?
THERE MANY TURDS OUT THERE JUST LOOKING FOR A PAYDAY BUT THANKFULLY THERE ARE STILL GOOD KIDS AND FAMILY OUT THERE LOOKING TO DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY. CLEMSON WILL NOT MAKE YOU RICH BUT THEY WILL SURE TAKE CARE OF OUR KIDS AND TURN THEM INTO MEN INSTEAD OF THE OTHER OPTION.
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
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Caps lock button broken? You post like a 5 year old
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
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NICE RETORT
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All top players will be getting big NIL $$$ from somewhere. It's standard practice.
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Some Tigernetters have the future in front of them
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But refuse to open their eyes. This how it works nowadays.
Let’s go make Wesco and OTHERS some money by winning championships.
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Exactly HOW do WE do that? It is about 1000x important that HE is actually
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…wearing a Clemson football helmet on the field in Death Valley for any championships to be won.
If he has a “good” year as a freshman, I would not bet a single dime that he stays out of the portal come Jan ‘25.
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Re: Exactly HOW do WE do that? It is about 1000x important that HE is actually
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^^^This guy gets it. You don’t hire an agent of that caliber if money isn’t a top priority.If that is the case we can’t compete in that arena.
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Re: Exactly HOW do WE do that? It is about 1000x important that HE is actually
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You do realize that we use NIL to keep players here too, correct? And it's well funded? Phil Mafah and Barrett Carter didn't stay because they're "Clemson Men". While I'm sure there's some loyalty there, they stayed because they got paid. Wesco getting paid isn't that big of an issue either.
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Clemson NIL is WELL FUNDED? Is there a public link that compares this
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…to other programs across the country?
Is Clemson NIL in the Top 10 of “well funded” NIL programs?
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Re: New Breed
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NOT ALL. WE GOT A TOP 2 CLASS. OBVIOUSLY ANY COULD HAVE HAD THEIR HAND OUT.
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Thats odd, I thought we were poor and couldnt compete in NIL.***
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Re: Thats odd, I thought we were poor and couldnt compete in NIL.***
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Who is we? Clemson? The schools don’t pays the players. Also, this kid will be in the portal next year if he has a good freshman season.
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Re: Thats odd, I thought we were poor and couldnt compete in NIL.***
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No he won't. Name one Clemson player who's produced that we've lost to the portal? Collins didn't produce, and Mukuba was always hurt, and being pushed by Barnes as the starter. If the player is good, Levon Kirkland will get them set up, and so will the 110Society.
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
Jan 30, 2024, 7:50 AM
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So these kids have agents bartering with the boosters now?
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
Jan 30, 2024, 7:56 AM
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K Barnes is signed to that company as well
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the whole Clemson zero NIL is a big lie spread by fake news
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remember DJU was one of the very first Dr Pepper guys
Cade has been all over marketing content his first year
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
Jan 30, 2024, 8:00 AM
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Will be curious to see the advice given to him by that outfit on whether he should participate in a bowl game if Clemson goes 9-3 or 10-2, especially if he has a solid year making his value go up come free agency time
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Thats awesome!
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Hopefully they can land him some huge NIL deals. DJU's agent secured Dr. Pepper, so the sky is the limit.
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
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I don’t mind agents taking a gamble on a potential future NFL player to lock them down as a future client. The agent is taking a gamble and could lose every penny of his money if the player is a bust. To me, it only becomes problematic if agents to start shopping college players to other college teams to get a bigger NIL deal.
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
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Dabo takes care of his own guys. He’s a Tiger and he will be paid if need be. This whole thread isn’t a good look
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
Jan 30, 2024, 9:23 AM [ in reply to Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit ]
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Dabo takes care of his own guys. He’s a Tiger and he will be paid if need be. This whole thread isn’t a good look
NOT MANY THINGS ON THIS SITE IS A GOOD LUCK. IT IS THE MOST NEGATIVE SITE OF ANY SCHOOL I HAVE EVER BEEN TO AND NOTHING EVER SEEMS TO BE DONE ABOUT IT.
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
Jan 30, 2024, 9:34 AM
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Agree my friend. The parents and kids themselves read this stuff too.
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
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This board is hysterical.
TNet: “We need to be using NIL!”
Player gets agent to work on NIL opportunities.
TNet: he’s gone. Just wants money. Greedy athletes.
Y’all realize we have many players with NIL agents? Y’all realize this is the way NIL is supposed to work? Y’all realize we put in place a system to help them do exactly this with our NIL Institute?
I ask, how are players supposed to find opportunities for NIL $ on their own? For most, they can’t. It’s either a school illegally paying players or they get someone (agent) to help them find opportunities. I guess they could just wait around and hope someone approaches them with a deal?
The only thing this board is good for is comedy.
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
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I feel like you are the one who is confused. NIL for most players isn’t name image likeness anymore. NIL is pay for play to whose ever boosters cut the biggest check. An agent like Drew isn’t trying to get a local car dealership deal. That guy is shopping for the highest bidder period.
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
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Pay for play is still illegal. Clemson plays by the rules.
How do you think DJ got the Dr Pepper gig? You think they came to him? How do you think Ship got his Chipotle gig? How do you think Cade got his deal with Rhoback? They all have agents.
An agent isn’t necessarily trying to get a player into a different school. An agent can help someone get bigger/better NIL deals.
HTH
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
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Pay for play isn’t illegal if the NCAA isn’t enforcing the rule. Every school not named Clemson is doing it. Open your eyes man. I am not advocating for Clemson to do it but it is happening. Our lack of success in the transfer portal should be evidence enough. If Drew isn’t shopping his clients to the highest bidder depending on their success he isn’t doing his job.
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
Jan 30, 2024, 6:43 PM
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You actually think something will come out of any of that? The NCAA has no power at this point. It is open season and the tooth paste isn’t going back in the tube at this point. They can’t possibly stop it at this point.
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The NCAA losing their bite is false rhetoric - they
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had to adjust to NIL also. They have been clear and restating from the start that pay for play is not legal. Enforcement is now catching up. There are a # of ongoing investigations already made public. The FSU investigation didn’t take long to render a punishment. They lost real schollies. Based on reports they may not have changed their practices - NCAA always punches a lot harder on repeats for the same thing and also while on probation. UT may be the first school to find out. NCAA is able to investigate a lot quicker now which does 2 things 1) schools lose the argument that guys are no longer there so why punish them 2) transfer rules that these players/courts insist on will make it easy for the NCAA to say - hey, these individuals can go somewhere else tomorrow so we’re not really punishing the innocent player. Also the NCAA is starting to hand down heavy fines. UT was hit with $8mil alone. This is only going to increase the amount of investigators and speed on enforcement. Schools like UT, FSU, Miami, TAM, UF and others are about to find out. Teams like Michigan who are on probation for other things better not be playing the pay for pay game or they will be considered a repeat offender. Will they be banned from post-season?? Probably not - CFP is technically not the NCAA so that is a little fuzzy. Other sports will probably get bans. Football - thinking massive fines, and scholarship reductions double and triple what we have seen in the past. Other measures as well. Coaching bans if they are found to be involved. Practice, recruiting limitations, booster disassociation. All this will come quicker than the football schools splitting from the NCAA and will come quicker than the athletes becoming employees - both of which likely happens by 2030 IMO. The timetable for NCAA penalties - already starting to see them. I bet 80% of the teams I mentioned will be on probation within a year - probably before next season starts. For some it will be the 2nd whammy and it’s going to be fun to watch them have to swallow it and also have to change their ways.
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Re: Bryant Wesco signs with Drew Rosenhaus' NIL outfit
Jan 30, 2024, 1:50 PM
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So what is the deal worth $$$$ wise while he is playing?
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I don't know if it's good or bad?
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It's just weird to me. Schools in the same conference that are 2500 miles apart. 6 years of eligibility. Dudes playing for 3 and 4 schools. Drew Rosenhaus. Pretty easy to see Dabo's plan is to project stability in this cluster you know what. I was pretty aggravated about his lack of portal use but now I'm starting to think his plan might work.
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