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There is no consensus.
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There is no consensus.


Dec 28, 2012, 9:38 AM

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/06/13/the-ipcc-consensus-on-climate-change-was-phoney-says-ipcc-insider/

"consensus" is anti-science anyway.

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97% of all sceintist agree


Dec 28, 2012, 9:42 AM

they need money from us

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Bingo.


Dec 28, 2012, 9:53 AM

I'd love to have $9,000,000 to study the affects of anthropogenic climate change on the recreational tracts of land throughout the country on which humans play golf... but I'm not a scumbag

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I'd rather give it to them over the do nothings***


Dec 28, 2012, 10:18 AM [ in reply to 97% of all sceintist agree ]



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science is a liar


Dec 28, 2012, 10:20 AM [ in reply to 97% of all sceintist agree ]

.


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Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile,
Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile!!!!


Using "science" as if it were a unified entity is the lie.***


Dec 28, 2012, 10:21 AM



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it is, on certain questions, normally***


Dec 28, 2012, 12:48 PM



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what do you hope to gain by this?


Dec 28, 2012, 12:47 PM

Politically, I mean? Better to accept that most of the evidence is on the side of man contributing to global warming (or climate change, or whatever it is), than to, as a non-expert, try to claim you know more than the people studying the problem. This denial of our role in the degredation of our environment, particularly through climate change, is just as annoying to me as the people who predict doom if we don't enact a certain policy to slow warming. Shouldn't we recognize, instead of challenging the authority- on shaky non-expert grounds- of most climate scientists, that a scientific fact doesn't entail a particular political action? Scientists are not our elected political leaders, and what we want to do about a particular phenomenon identified by scientists is a political question, not a scientific one. We indirectly affirm the assertion that there are direct connections between scientific facts and political action, and that we ought to be ruled by scientific experts, when we think we have to challenge scientific facts because we don't like political policies.

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TL;DR. Stop your insane belief in mythology.***


Dec 28, 2012, 2:23 PM



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that is one insightful


Dec 28, 2012, 11:21 PM [ in reply to what do you hope to gain by this? ]

blind a$$ slippery slope.


so you will take the output from so called experts "carte blanche" because they are so called experts??


to me you contradict yourself by not being willing to contradict or question them.


pffft.

imo, the idea that man is affecting the climate of this planet is one of the most hubristic (is that a word) statements man makes about himself.


there are plenty of other "experts" that claim that the the volcanoes, etc have done much more to affect this planet's climate.
with which "expert" do we side??



at the end of the day, EVERYTHING that is tied with a political agenda SHOULD BE QUESTIONED.
FOREVER.

or until the polar ice caps melt and we all die....

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Consensus is not anti-science.


Dec 28, 2012, 2:08 PM

It's what scientists call "peer review." It's very pro-science.

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Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: like a man, who hath thought of a good repartee when the discourse is changed, or the company parted; or like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.
- Jonathan Swift


consensus is what makes science "science"


Dec 28, 2012, 4:48 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Revolutions

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Good book. Read it back in grad school.


Dec 28, 2012, 6:12 PM

(But not in the STS program, although I'm sure they like it too.)

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Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: like a man, who hath thought of a good repartee when the discourse is changed, or the company parted; or like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.
- Jonathan Swift


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