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Orange Blooded [4107]
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Move To The "Big 12" Would Be Stupid
May 17, 2012, 11:57 AM
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Sure, a team in S. Carolina affiliated with a bunch of MidWest Teams... for a couple mil more? Can you imagine traveling to Iowa State to see a game? Do you know where Iowa State is? Its in Ames, Iowa .... far north west side of Iowa. Its like Cornfields and cold..... That few million difference would be eaten big time by the expense of getting there .... AND, you have to pay big bucks to leave the ACC. From a financial point of view, it makes no sense. Now if the SEC comes calling, its worth considering. THE BEST solution is to make ACC Football better! The "Football Schools" of the ACC ie Clemson, Florida State, VaTech and yes, the potential good Football schools of the ACC BC, Miami and VIRGINIA! should have a "sit down" with Swofford and just tell him bluntly to get out of the back pocket of Duke, UNC or put in his resignation. Swofford works for the ACC overall, not for UNC and Duke. I believe he lives in the Raleigh/Durham area ...
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get your head out of the sand .....***
May 17, 2012, 11:59 AM
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110%er [8009]
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Or anywhere else it may be.***
May 17, 2012, 12:11 PM
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If you don't keep your options open then that would be
May 17, 2012, 12:00 PM
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stupid. ACC sinking. Gotta look around.
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CU Medallion [64730]
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What if the Big XII covered....
May 17, 2012, 12:02 PM
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most of the buyout and the added travel expenses. At the end of the day, we talking about more than just a few million dollrs more.
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I would think Big 12 would pay 50-75% of the buyout.***
May 17, 2012, 12:05 PM
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...and added other teams along the east coast for a
May 17, 2012, 12:24 PM
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Big XII Eastern Block:
WVU
CU
FSU
VT
GT
Miami
Makes travel less of an issue.
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CU Medallion [64730]
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I'd settle for....
May 17, 2012, 12:27 PM
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a fourten team league that included an eastern block consisting of West Virginia, Clemson, Florida State, Virginia Tech, and Georgia Tech.
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Orange Blooded [3099]
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Actually it makes perfect sense....
May 17, 2012, 12:05 PM
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its not just a couple mil more. It will be in the area of about 5-8 mil more. The ACC countract wont start seeing benefits until like 7 yrs from now. Swofford has proven time and time again he wants this to be a basketball conference. We dont want to be a part of a conference that doesnt have FSU in it. SC makes and spends 20mil more than us. (not acceptable) Sure the trip to Iowa sucks but BC, Syracuse, Pitt, and Miami arent just a couple hr drive away. The money isnt coming from whether or not the seats in the stands are full it comes from how many people are watching it on tv. If Clemson fans dont travel to Big 12 games the games will still be pretty full with the home crowd. Can you say the same thing about Duke, Wake, BC, Miami, or even the ACC championship game?
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IF....
May 17, 2012, 12:08 PM
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you pull FSU, Clemson, GT and VT to a new big 12, then a move might make sense. Otherwise, I'm not so sure.
The only question I have there is who are the other three teams in the Big14 east?
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WVU/KU/KSTATE***
May 17, 2012, 12:09 PM
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Re: WVU/KU/KSTATE***
May 17, 2012, 12:17 PM
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Ah, thx. I forgot about WVa. I have a 1 year old at home that doesn't like to sleep, so I have an excuse...
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Yeah! That would be like UCS playing Texas A&M and Missou!***
May 17, 2012, 12:17 PM
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And Arkansas and LSU***
May 17, 2012, 12:18 PM
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Arky and TAM are trading to be our permanent opponent.
May 17, 2012, 12:59 PM
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Mizzou will be in the SEC East. We don't play LSU annually.
I think the thing that those who oppose a move to the Big 12 fail to remember is that you would not have to play all those Midwest and Southwest teams annually.
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STAYING IN The "ACC" Would Be Stupid***
May 17, 2012, 12:22 PM
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I see what you did there Bro***
May 17, 2012, 12:50 PM
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Re: Move To The "Big 12" Would Be Stupid
May 17, 2012, 1:07 PM
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Most likely the ACC can't be fixed. Even if Swofford was replaced it would still have too many dead weight football programs that drag down the amount of money the conference gets from its TV deal. That's the problem. Clemson is at a huge revenue disadvantage to South Carolina. They'll be the top football program in the state if this continues.
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Re: Move To The "Big 12" Would Be Stupid
May 17, 2012, 1:53 PM
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simply stated the football schools have had years upon years to get better but we all have simply floundered. the ignorance in stating that BC and Virginia (what about Pitt and Syracuse )are potential football school is unmatched. VaTech has been exactly were they belong. Clemson and FlaSt simply do not fit and are not welcome in the ACC as football powerhouses.your travel argument is simply ignorant because the list of teams that dont travel in the ACC is a far longer list than the list of BXII teams that dont travel and the last time I checked the BXII pays all travel expenses and then divides the TV contract money afterward. YOU are simply living in the past and refuse to see the future and other things Im sure(the Gamecocks have passed us due to money) .
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