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So I'm "told" that Clemson will use the portal this
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offseason to bring in DE and LB help. The change doesn't mean we will use the portal in a wholesale manner, but "selectively" to fill roster gaps as required. Hopefully, this change in recruiting philosphy will pay big dividends going forward.
Just what I'm hearing, but there will also be a renewed focus on NIL as well as we've just hired a new NIL "expert", though I didn't catch her name.
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Sounds like the exact same philosophy we've had.***
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Re: Sounds like the exact same philosophy weve had.***
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How so? We are talking about using the portal to bring in starters---not grad transfers for backups....
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"We" offered two frontliners at least in the UVA OL & CB.***
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OL - Olusegun Oluwatimi, a grad transfer center from the University of Virginia who earned second-team All-ACC honors this season and was one of three finalists for the Rimington Trophy, which is presented annually to the most outstanding center in NCAA Division I college football. - TCI
CB - In four seasons at Virginia, Cypress put up numbers in his 15 starts. He produced 57 tackles, 14 pass breakups, an interception, one fumble recovery, and half a sack over the course of his 18 career games. That led to him being rated as a Top-75 player and a Top-10 corner in On3’s College Rating.
After that, he chose to enter the transfer portal this offseason. Considering his success and experience in the league, Cypress earned a rating as the No. 2 overall name in the portal. He was also the top corner on the move according to On3’s Top Transfer Portal Players.
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Cypress is the starting corner at FSU.****
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Yep and thanks, bret.***
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Re: "We" offered two frontliners at least in the UVA OL & CB.***
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I think he means they are actually going to use the portal and not keep saying over and over, “well we tried that lineman and cb that time and they just didn’t wanna come!” That is such a tired go to for people pumping the no portal policy.
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Clemson did use it by offering frontliners; even an idiot...
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should know those players have a say in the commitment, just as do high school recruits.
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It appears we might be dealing with an idiot?***
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Re: Clemson did use it by offering frontliners; even an idiot...
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TU for “brazing”. Question is: did you do it on purpose?
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Welcome, and since you're a die hard Tiger fan, you'll be...
Oct 4, 2023, 10:35 AM
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happy to learn Dabo never said any such thing, in fact more so the opposite, that everyone would use it.
He has also, beyond any and all offers, brought in two Transfer Portal QBs.
This seems to have caused you great consternation, hopefully now you can sleep better at night?
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Re: "We" offered two frontliners at least in the UVA OL & CB.***
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Y’all really believe everything the media tells y’all and it’s pathetic. We’ve offered several portal players, they just went elsewhere. Do y’all honestly believe you just go to the portal and grab that player that’s it?
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Dabo has said from day one what his policy is on the portal.
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It hasn't changed. The media has turned it into something it is not. Fans have turned it into something it is not.
So we have two possible scenarios playing out...
1) Dabo says he will use the portal in the right situation. This means he has to find a player(s) who A) Clemson is interested in (a fit in all aspects; fills a need, fits with roster management, is a cultural fit, etc..) B) is interested in Clemson and C) chooses Clemson. To accomplish this he has hired a person to sort through the portal and do all of the legwork to see if any players check all the boxes. To date we haven't found many who fit, but there have been a few. Of those few, we have missed on some and gotten some.
2) Dabo says he will use the portal in the right situation. Dabo is a liar.
PS: I like you Ridgeland Booster.
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Another example of you being far nicer than I am...***
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Re: Dabo has said from day one what his policy is on the portal.
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From a "PR" perspective, it's a change. In reality (I actually agree) the approach is more or less the same, main difference being it will be more of a coordinated effort than in the past. Another difference is negotiating NIL deals....sometimes the deal comes with the player....other times not. Another wrinkle to consider.
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Re: Sounds like the exact same philosophy weve had.***
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Ole' Fudge P. Smeller 🤣🤣🤣
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Poor lady cant go a day with petty trolling
Oct 3, 2023, 11:47 AM
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Krump and her trolling handles are really a sign of her immaturity. I guess those IT nerds never quite grow up lol.
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Re: So I'm "told" that Clemson will use the portal this
Oct 3, 2023, 9:27 AM
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That makes it sound like we are already tampering with others and know who we are getting.
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It sounds like your are imaging quite a bit
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I don't know how you got all of that from his post.
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Re: It sounds like your are imaging quite a bit
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Pure speculation on his part. Or wishful thinking from a coot.
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Re: So I'm "told" that Clemson will use the portal this
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Absolutely need to hit the portal for a LB assuming Trotter and Carter go pro. Tough situation to throw our young guys into without having much experience. If only TJ Dudley doing creepy stuff in the locker room or he would fill that gap next year.
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Lol. Ah yes, the magic portal.***
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It would be refreshing to see us........
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successfully fill a meaningful starting "gap" with the portal...................I'll believe it when I see it.
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So why even recruit and develop players?***
Oct 3, 2023, 10:28 AM
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who said we weren't doing that?***
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You did***
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NO I didn't Stanley Strawman***
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Freshman [-79]
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Lol! What gap?
Oct 3, 2023, 11:29 AM
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We are recruiting and developing players at every position. If an absolute need arises, like OL and DB prior to last season, then we’ll make an effort.
What gaps are you talking about? Seems there might be some straw in your argument
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Re: Lol! What gap?
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contrary to what YOU BELIEVE we don't have the #1 best roster at all positions in the Ultraverse........so you're niave if you don't see gaps keeping us from being ELITE again.
Again, please tell me where I said we need to stop recruiting and developing HS recruits........I'll wait Stanley.
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Please show me anything resembling what you said I said
Oct 3, 2023, 11:52 AM
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Thanks in advance.
When you answer the pertinent questions as requested, then we’ll go from there.
In the meantime, try to mature from hilariously immature and low brow adversarial charade.
This program isn’t 2018 good, but very few teams EVER have been that good. We are still a top ten winningest team in spite of the silly “slide” notions, and obviously we’re not far off from where we need to be.
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I already showed you.
Oct 3, 2023, 12:01 PM
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What gaps are we not filling with recruiting and development?
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no you didn't Stanley....
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Keep up
you said: "Why even recruit and develop players?"
Who said we shouldn't recruit and develop players?.........if nobody said it, b/c I know I didn't, then what's the point of that question??
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Im sorry you lack the IQ to comprehend .
Oct 3, 2023, 12:27 PM
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Maybe you should try talking less trolling bull shot and actually mean what you’re saying instead of your immature contrived charade?
As it is, you failed as usual.
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ah....so you CAN'T answer the question.....thanks for playin
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Strawman Stan!!
next time just waste our time telling us your "pulse story"......ya know, the one where some meanie was chasing you around...........I'd love to hear that again, quite amusing.
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Lol!!!
Oct 3, 2023, 4:03 PM
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pheebo
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I did answer, fraud.
Oct 4, 2023, 8:17 AM
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You said we need to start hitting the portal to fill gaps left by seniors, and that we needed to replace them with magic portal players instead of the developing kids.
I was right, and you were wrong. Seems to be the case every single time you go try.
So I can help you with comprehension of simple English, but I can’t help that bizarre childish trolling.
Did you have a difficult childhood? You seem emotionally stunted in addition to comically immature.
I win. You lose. That makes you a loser, but then again that’s been established many times before.
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there ya go, making stuff up again.......
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I never said start hitting the portal to fill gaps left by seniors.
sooooo...........WRONG BY YOU.
not to mention the fact you can't comprehend the coexistence of development & portal............it's not an either or scenario, but you know that. It just doesn't fit your STRAWMAN STAN argument.
like I said..........answer the question correctly w/ FACTS or just walk away with your tail between your legs because of how wrong you were.
better yet, tell us your "pulse story"...........you don't seem to want to share that anymore........quite amusing.
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The gaps that are left from the players you
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recruited to develop transferring out of your program. This may show up even more once there is no more Covid and super seniors.
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Like who? How many?***
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this was a troll post?
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or you seriously can't grasp the concept that using the portal doesn't mean we don't recruit and develop players the old-fashioned way? I guess you think we are 100% on all players being ready one day and exactly when we need them.
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Sorry bud, but what youre saying doesnt address what Im asking
Oct 3, 2023, 12:09 PM
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And I didn’t say nor insinuate what you said I did.
I like Dabo’s philosophy just fine. If we have an absolute need for a STARTER (kids aren’t transferring to be “depth”), then we’ll pursue tge best candidates… IF we have an absolute need for a starter.
There are zero elite teams building a program thru the portal. Yes, Bama and Georgia have brought in a couple, but those were either absolute needs or they just decided to bench a starter. We will not now or ever just bench a dude because we don’t like him and then give the job to an unproven new guy.
And before you say, “all transfers are proven”, well that’s just not true. There are over 2000 kids in the portal every year recently, and relatively very few of them make a dent. Very, very few. Most of them end up nowhere in reality.
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Who said to BUILD our program through the portal 2be elite??
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or are you just straw manning again?
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You really struggle with reading comprehension huh ?
Oct 4, 2023, 8:25 AM
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But then again when your life here is a trolling charade then comprehension isn’t your consideration.
Yet again you fail with every single weak effort. I look forward to making you wrong as many times as you like, troll.
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shocking!......you still can't answer the question.
Oct 4, 2023, 10:27 AM
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tell me the "pulse story" again Stanley, you got that one down...........I'm throwing you a softball here.
THEN answer my original question.
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you give me the confuse
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no one is advocating to build a team through the portal.
Did you notice during the FSU game how many times the announcers said the "transfer from x" when referring to FSU players making a play? There are many transfer players making an impact around the country.
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Yet amazingly, none of them are good enough to play for us.***
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Re: Yet amazingly, none of them are good enough to play for us.***
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Demonstrably untrue considering we have offered players who did not come. Would you like to try again?
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Obviously she wont even try. Shes the most disingenuous poster on the board, and sadly shes
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nothing more than a purposeful troll.
Site’s been here since 1995, and the IT kids still haven’t grown up.
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Thats not true at all. I, for one, am perfectly fine with Dabos
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approach to the portal - we will go after someone if we have an absolute need for a starter. But there are many portal worshippers here who suggest we follow the LSU and FSU model of building a 2-deep full of ‘em.
So I’ll ask you the same question - who do you plan to bench in favor of a magic portal guy? Because that’s the way it works. Players aren’t going anywhere to be added depth, and as far as I can see right now we have developing players at every position. Now that could change with attrition, but right now there are no scholarship players who deserve to lose their spot to an unproven new guy who quit his last team.
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Re: So I'm "told" that Clemson will use the portal this
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It also make sense in that some of those position groups will probably have 1 or 2 guys leave early for the draft so backfilling them with experience until some of your high schools recruits can grow into the roles makes a lot of sense.
I think this is all most of us were asking for.
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Re: So I'm "told" that Clemson will use the portal this
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Just a guess, but I suspect Pearman will be pushed aside for someone that puts in the effort to actually gets transfer portal targets on campus and hearing a pitch about NIL opportunities. No, Dabo is not going to start tampering with other school’s rosters, but I understand NIL will play a larger role so that the Tigers can atleast compete to sign starter level players who enter the portal.
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What gap?
Oct 3, 2023, 10:47 AM
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I have no qualms filling an absolute need with a portal kid or two, but what gap are we talking about? Are our kids in the development pipeline not worthy and will be losing their opportunities?
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Re: So I'm "told" that Clemson will use the portal this
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I'll believe it, when I see it.
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Re: So I'm "told" that Clemson will use the portal this
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I'm not entirely sold on us losing both Carter and Trotter. I can imagine one of them returning for their senior year (leaning Trotter). But if they both leave, then the portal absolutely makes sense. Bring in a starter opposite of Wade Woodaz. Allow Anderson, Crayton, Brown, and Drew Woodaz to develop more. The depth would look really good.
DE also looks like a must. TJ Parker is elite but Denhoff leaves a lot to be desired. I'd love to bring in a portal DE to stop opposite of Parker, which would allow Hoffler and Ojiegbe another year to develop. The depth would also look really good.
Safety might be another position to look at, although we will be returning Covil and Venables as starters.
TE could be another, depending on what Briningstool decides (I'd assume he returns)
RB could be another, depending on what Shipley and Mafah decided (I assume one of them returns)
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I think he needs to use it openly this offseason just to get
Oct 3, 2023, 10:50 AM
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the story to go away. He's always said he would use the portal if necessary but for whatever reason the national media has portrayed it as he's against it and he's some on this site throw that around as fact too. Because those who might be looking to transfer probably don't view Clemson as an option b/c of the way we're covered.
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Are there a lot of free agents at those positions after this
Oct 3, 2023, 10:52 AM
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season?
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That would be great! Its only taken years for Dabo to come around.***
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If using the portal were the key to success
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Clemson basketball should have a national championship by now
Or at least a NCAA tournament appearance
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The wise play with JK is to take every coaching observation
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and assume the opposite is in fact at hand. Her incessant pumping of the mediocre results of Brown L as 'success' and the constant pimping of negative hits around Dabo and his staff tell a pretty clear tale.
When your mission in life is to needle and denigrate Tiger sports and its fans, it's not too hard to read between the lines on any position she assumes.
Go Tigers.
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As I'm sure you know
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transfer players were key to our Sweet 16 run under Brownell.
Dabo should be asking Brownell how he's successfully used transfers and integrated them into the team. Our basketball culture has remained strong, our players continue to perform well academically, and we haven't had any off-the-court issues with transfers. Brownell is proof that it can work at Clemson in a major sport.
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Legend [17086]
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Re: As I'm sure you know
Oct 3, 2023, 12:44 PM
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Where are the championships then?
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And yet the trophy case is as empty as the coot football
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trophy case.
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If Dabo was losing 50% of his high school recruits like
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Brown L does after they get to campus and into the program, and had to re-recruit all those positions again from the portal, I still wouldn't recommend he talk to Brad about it considering how middling that program remains after all this time under his tenure. Dabo obviously places a higher value on development and retention than most, and knows how to stock positions with 'next man up' talent should someone get injured or not pan out. Having half of your HS recruits bail early and often like Brad's boys isn't necessarily a recipe for long-term success, as has been proven out here in our major sports.
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Does Morehead St. have a football team?***
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Re: As I'm sure you know
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And how did program building Brownell respond the next season when returning the nucleus of that team that went on to the Sweet 16. Hint - worse. Because he’s never improved in consecutive seasons. Never. In 13 years at Clemson. Definitely a guy who knows how to build teams and maximize their potential.
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Re: So I'm "told" that Clemson will use the portal this
Oct 3, 2023, 11:31 AM
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Will we pursue a back up FG kicker or a starting FG kicker?
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Re: So I'm "told" that Clemson will use the portal this
Oct 3, 2023, 11:33 AM
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Honestly, if the staff and coaches use the portal in much the fashion they do in recruiting then it is really not that much different.
They should be able to ascertain the character of the player and make sure he fits the locker room and is not a cancer.
I trust the coaches to get the right fit, go for it!
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Curious as to our approach
Oct 3, 2023, 11:43 AM
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It's pretty clear teams like FSU are using 3rd party “recruiters” to approach targets and arrange NIL deals. Murky waters for sure
If we wait for guys to enter the portal though we will be way behind the curve end up with the scraps.
The thing I like about Dabo is that once he decides to do something he does it with excellence
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Re: So I'm "told" that Clemson will use the portal this
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Dabo and Clemson were early innovators and adopters on the NIL front. First it was a state-of-the-art production and marketing facility within the football program, then that expanded out to cover all sports through greater investment by the AD. The problem many folks seem to have on that end with Dabo is that he's simply going about it the right way, not innovating in ways how to cheat or game the system. It's comforting knowing the foundation we have in place there and the great opportunities our kids are getting to capitalize on NIL and brand building.
Go Tigers!
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Isn't that the same as what they tried this last year when
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Oct 3, 2023, 12:01 PM
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they went after the UVA OL in the portal? We didn't get him because he ended up transferring somewhere else but they said the same thing selectively going after needs such as OL.
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Orange Blooded [4071]
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I've been saying this for months on here...
Oct 3, 2023, 12:23 PM
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You will start seeing changes. Dabo will start to slowly use the portal like BAMA, OSU, etc.... He has no choice. Just like summer OVs. A shame stubbornness has caused this to take a bit to get going....but give CDS credit...the way this will be set up will be EXACTLY the way it should be done.
The ANSWER, the way the system is constructed today, has ALWAYS been to lightly sprinkle in for needs when players bail on you, get injured, receive medical redshirts, etc.... Like Gundy from OSU has said, can't keep replacing those upperclassmen with 18 year old's. Recruiting and developing from HS ranks is the WAY to go for 95% of new kids when you are an elite program.
This news is not a surprise....but good to see it reconfirmed.
You will ALSO see minor roster management changes in the future as well....can't say more than that. Its good to see the self-imposed handcuffs coming off.....
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Which games would we have won over the last two seasons
Oct 3, 2023, 3:53 PM
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with transfer players? You mentioned how Dabo has been “slow”, but who would we have benched before a season started to replace him with a transfer guy?
I mean DJ was the most important player on the team and why we lost (gasp!) 5 games in two years, but going into year 1 he was a Heisman candidate. Year 2 he was doing well and improving in the spring and fall, so we didn’t automatically sit him for a magic portal QB.
Who are the players who should have lost their job in the offseason for a transfer guy who quit his other team for playing time?
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Meh, hiring mediocre coaches is the problem.
Oct 3, 2023, 12:25 PM
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Address that first.
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You have already seen that begun to be addressed....
Oct 3, 2023, 12:27 PM
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Dabo will always be a reward from inside person but hires like Garrett will now become the norm....
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Re: You have already seen that begun to be addressed....
Oct 3, 2023, 12:31 PM
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I have no problem hiring from within as long as they are the best option we have available, that clearly isn't what Dabo does. He gives preference to his buddies, and while that's his prerogative, it 100% holds the program back.
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Name them...
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Oct 3, 2023, 12:35 PM
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which coaches are you referring to, and why? I'm always interested in these points of view.
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Re: Name them...
Oct 3, 2023, 12:46 PM
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Brandon Streeter was the most obvious huge mistake that everyone saw coming. Literally set the program back at least a couple of years.
Goodwin is doing ok but I find it hard to believe we couldn't do better than that.
Tyler Grisham - Went from WRU to whatever this is in no time.
CJ Spiller - Love the guy but lack of coaching experience. He was not chosen because he was the best available option.
Thomas Austin - Surely I don't have to go into detail
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Let's look at these...
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Oct 3, 2023, 12:56 PM
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Streeter: Explain how he set us back.
Goodwin: We are top 10 in the country in defense. We completely shut down FSU and Syracuse on the ground. The only argument against Wes is last year he didn't bring as much pressure with blitz packages. It was clear our backs struggled last year, which makes blitzing very difficult. This year, our backs are a strength, and you have seen the difference in his approach. My guess is we are seeing his defense this year as opposed to the defense he had to run due to personnel last year.
Grisham: Check the injuries we have had. Now look at player performance when they get healthy.
Spiller: Our RB group is an absolute strength for this team. Where has he failed?
Austin: Yes, go into detail. I say this because I have not idea what you are seeing that is an issue, which typically means the person making the claim doesn't know what they are seeing either. I'm not saying that's you, but it is typically the case.
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Re: Let's look at these...
Oct 3, 2023, 4:00 PM
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Overall, let's make one thing crystal clear with coaches:
After the departure of Jeff Scott and Brent Venables, we have left elite status and are currently a better than average ball club.
You can give me the 3 plays away bs all you want but the only stat that matters has 2 in the loss column 5 games in.
> Streeter: Explain how he set us back.
That's two years we could have been in the playoffs.
> Goodwin
I already caveated him, he's turned out well.
> Grisham: Check the injuries we have had. Now look at player performance when they get healthy.
We could have a 100% healthy roster and you think they stand up to before his arrival? ok.
> Spiller
recruiting
> Austin: Yes, go into detail. I say this because I have not idea what you are seeing that is an issue, which typically means the person making the claim doesn't know what they are seeing either. I'm not saying that's you, but it is typically the case.
You don't see our OL issues?
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Re: Let's look at these...
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“Overall, let's make one thing crystal clear with coaches:”
“After the departure of Jeff Scott and Brent Venables, we have left elite status and are currently a better than average ball club.”
We were elite on offense in 2020 (after Jeff Scott’s departure)and have been on defense in 2023 (after Brent Venables departure)
“You can give me the 3 plays away bs all you want but the only stat that matters has 2 in the loss column 5 games in.”
I didn’t mention anything about being 3 plays away to you.
“That's two years we could have been in the playoffs.”
Streeter wasn’t our OC for both of those two years. I’ll give you one guess who our QB was though.
“I already caveated him (Goodwin) he's turned out well.”
No, you said, “Goodwin is doing ok but I find it hard to believe we couldn't do better than that.”
“We could have a 100% healthy roster and you think they stand up to before his arrival? ok.”
You want us to fire him based on how we think he would have done if his roster was healthy?
Spiller’s recruiting has been good. Are you in the camp that is upset we didn’t sign a highly ranked RB in a cycle when RB was not a priority?
Austin, You don't see our OL issues?
I say this because I have no idea what YOU are seeing that is an issue, which typically means the person making the claim doesn't know what they are seeing either. I had a feeling this is what we were dealing with.
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Agreed....what I'm saying...
Oct 3, 2023, 12:45 PM
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is you won't see the inside folks get promoted unless they are the best avail....
There have been CHANGES...ppl just can't see them all yet; some implemented, other going to be. Dabo is NEVER going to admit fault or announce these changes. Dabo realizes the landscape has changed and is slowly adapting. You can mostly afford to get away with that when........................ but when you go to....................................
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Re: Agreed....what I'm saying...
Oct 3, 2023, 12:46 PM
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the best avail or the best avail from the group in consideration
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Who are we looking to bench or replace?
Oct 4, 2023, 8:41 AM
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What you heard is false.
Dabo’s philosophy is the same as it’s always been - if attrition creates an absolute need for a hoped for starter, then we’ll recruit a portal player.
We’ve recently been paper thin at OL and DB, and that’s why we DID actively recruit a couple kids.
The approach will remain the same, just as many have already pointed out. We do and will consider the portal, and if we sign one or two it’s not a change in recruiting except for we may actually sign them this cycle with NFL attrition on the defensive side.
Where are you “hearing” that anyway??
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I'm here for the firing of Brad Brownell.***
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Re: I'm here for the firing of Brad Brownell.***
Oct 3, 2023, 12:51 PM
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Please add a FG kicker to the “wish list” …
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Re: So I'm "told" that Clemson will use the portal this
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Y'all are gonna have to stop calling it the transfer portal - it's the PROTAL. I will be dispatching Big Dave to come correct those that get up to speed with the proper vernacular.
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Youre full of it***
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We need to portal in some fans to help quell all...
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the whining about using the portal to build a winning programs.
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Re: We need to portal in some fans to help quell all...
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We need to portal in some fans to help quell all...
Oct 4, 2023, 7:12 AM [ in reply to So I'm "told" that Clemson will use the portal this ]
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the whining about using the portal to build a winning programs.
THAT IS THE PROBLEM ALREADY. THE WALMART BANDWAGON FANS THAT JUMPED ON BOARD WHEN WE GOT TO BE GOOD. THE ONES THAT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS BUT REALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT THEY SPEAK.
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I'm old and slow, so can you explain what "Using the Portal
Oct 4, 2023, 9:51 AM
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in a wholesome manner" looks like? National Enquiring minds want to know?
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Re: So I'm "told" that Clemson will use the portal this
Oct 4, 2023, 10:38 AM
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I do not know why you can’t just confirm your source.
No one can believe you until you do.
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Freshman [-79]
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He heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend lol
Oct 4, 2023, 10:48 AM
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Fact is, nothing has changed. We’ve pursued absolute needs in the portal before, and we’ll do it again if needed.
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