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Clowney
Oct 9, 2012, 3:28 AM
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While he is a good player, he can be beat. We have to use his aggresiveness against him. I watched the GA game, and I honestly dont remember seeing them ever run at him. Because of this, he wasnt hardly being blocked. And he was able to use his speed to track down plays. We need to run at him, make him fight through tough blocks. If we do this, he will get tired and wont be as lethal as a pass rusher. I have faith that our Offensive Tackles can push him off the ball on running plays. But, if we ignore him and run away from him, he will have a good game. Another thing to remember, GA's freshman running backs looked scared when trying to block him. I can promise you, Ellington wont shy away from picking him up.
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Re: Clowney
Oct 9, 2012, 6:24 AM
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I sure hope that will be a way to slow him down. B/C he was in the UGA back field almost every snap.
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Re: Clowney
Oct 9, 2012, 6:58 AM
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On the only series I watched, UGA's left tackle kept trying go low on him. Clowney is an acute player and guess what, he just hopped over the block. 3 dang times that I remember, and the left tackle kept trying to go low.
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Running away from Clowney usually means running at
Oct 9, 2012, 7:03 AM
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Devin Taylor. wouldn't recommend doing that either.
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Athletic Dir [861]
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He said run at Clowney... not away.
Oct 9, 2012, 7:43 AM
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I agree that's one way to neutralize a speed rush. The other is to use screens. Georgia did neither one.
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Re: He said run at Clowney... not away.
Oct 9, 2012, 7:45 AM
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Yea Georgia looked completely and utterly bumfuzzled by everything USuC did Saturday night. I honestly am shocked that the Gamecocks only scored 35 because the Dawgs were WAYYYYY off their game.
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The Gamecocks attempted 1 pass in the second half, 1
Oct 9, 2012, 12:28 PM
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once USCe went up 21 points they went into full prevent offense.
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Re: Clowney
Oct 9, 2012, 8:22 AM
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run at pull guard and use te or fb .... will not chase Sammy or Ellington down
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Trying to make Clowney fight off tough blocks is
Oct 9, 2012, 8:23 AM
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decidedly a great idea. Unfortunately, I've not seen too much that he considers tough blocks. Someone above mentioned that he was jumping over the left tackle... He was jumping over the RB while BEATING the left tackle's block. They ended up TRIPLE teaming him to stop him late in the game.
Also, if you think running AT Clowney is a good idea, that's also not good. He is fast to react. A draw play to the left is good. But he's very quick to disengage from the QB and drag down RBs in the backfield as well. He is a freak of nature.
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Re: Trying to make Clowney fight off tough blocks is
Oct 9, 2012, 8:26 AM
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Georgia taught everyone what was a costly lesson for them: don't try to chip him with a running back. 2 lineman on him, minimum.
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Re: Trying to make Clowney fight off tough blocks is
Oct 9, 2012, 12:00 PM
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I don't know how much this means when it comes to running a draw to the left side, but Clowney is left-handed and his strongest move is to the inside. I think the fact that he is left-handed is another issue for offensive tackles because his strongest moves are typically opposite what an OT would expect. Also, lefties are better at abstract thought (creativity) - prolly means the dude is unpredictable in his moves. He is quite simply a badass freak.
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They ran right to Clowney's side early in the first quarter
Oct 9, 2012, 8:47 AM
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he was right in the gap the RB was going to take waiting with open arms. Ended up being a 3 yard loss.
Couldn't find a video on it but that may have contributed as to why they didn't run to his side much.
Although Clowney (and Taylor for that matter) are the strength of the D-line, the interior lineman hold their own.
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Re: They ran right to Clowney's side early in the first quarter
Oct 9, 2012, 9:12 AM
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Part of it is that Clowney is not as weak against the run as everyone assumed he would be. He is still a little light for a DE but he is freakishly strong and stands up to run blocking pretty well. Its not a major strength of his but it isn't a big weakness either.
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Oct 9, 2012, 12:04 PM
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Re: don't you two have your own message boards?***
Oct 9, 2012, 1:44 PM
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I can't wait until he goes up against our tough as nails O-Line!
They don't have those in the SEC ...
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Ga QB... 11 of 30something nuff said***
Oct 9, 2012, 9:04 AM
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Re: Ga QB... 11 of 30something nuff said***
Oct 9, 2012, 9:09 AM
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At one time South Carolina had 4 D.Ends in the game at the same time.Don't think I have ever seen that before.
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That's a typical formation for speed rushing.
Oct 9, 2012, 9:12 AM
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Then the LBs plug holes on running plays and the QB runs for his life on passing plays.
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The commentators of the game had heard of it
Oct 9, 2012, 12:06 PM
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so had my coot buddy a few weeks ago. So it apparently isn't exactly new
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I think I remember reading when Venables was hired that he
Oct 9, 2012, 1:20 PM
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runs that defence as well in certain situations. Can't remember what he called it either but I think it's mostly for passing situations.
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Oct 9, 2012, 1:32 PM
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he's better than any Defensive player we have****
Oct 9, 2012, 9:13 AM
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Re: he's better than any Defensive player we have****
Oct 9, 2012, 9:19 AM
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I think we can all agree on that. Of course it is natural to dislike him due to the jersey he wears on Saturdays. Kid can play
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Our best chance to slow him down...
Oct 9, 2012, 9:27 AM
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...is to hire Jeff Gillooly to "take care" of him.
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Re: Clowney
Oct 9, 2012, 9:26 AM
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USC has a good defensive line but another way to neutralize that is to throw quick passes and make them run sideline to sideline. Clemson does a lot of that
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Ellington may not be scare, but he better not be the one
Oct 9, 2012, 12:02 PM
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blocking Clowney consistently like UGA's RBs were. Total mismatch, gotta double team him with a TE
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Re: Clowney
Oct 9, 2012, 12:07 PM
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trap him
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Finally a post I can agree with. +1. Shatley's pleasure trip***
Oct 9, 2012, 1:25 PM
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Nah, double team him with a TE.
Oct 9, 2012, 12:20 PM
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That is the best way to neutralize him.
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Run the read option against him
Oct 9, 2012, 1:04 PM
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chances are he will bite on the handoff to AE more times than not, and tajh pulls it away for an easy 6-7 yards
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Re: Clowney
Oct 9, 2012, 1:07 PM
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Clowney olè'd every blocking scheme UGA threw at him
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This a discussion for last week of NOV....focis on VPI.
Oct 9, 2012, 1:10 PM
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One at a time and we wil be fine.
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focus***
Oct 9, 2012, 1:13 PM
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No one in history has scored on BYE week***
Oct 9, 2012, 1:15 PM
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The Chad will change that***
Oct 9, 2012, 1:33 PM
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Re: Clowney
Oct 9, 2012, 1:45 PM
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The most we can do is slow him down, nobody can stop him.
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Re: Clowney
Oct 14, 2012, 12:01 AM
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Like I said 5 days ago.....Clowney is a pass rusher, and can be blown off the line in the running game. The Mad Hadder, must have read my post from 5 days ago.
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Re: Clowney
Oct 14, 2012, 12:03 AM
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Wasn't LSU running mostly away from clowney or am I wrong on that?
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Re: Put a TE on him so he has to make the decsion to rush
Oct 14, 2012, 12:05 AM
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the passer or cover the TE. If he chooses to rush, the LB has to cover for him. Easy 5 yards!
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LSU uses a lot of "max protect" which helped negate
Oct 14, 2012, 2:01 AM
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the Coot pass rush. We typically "spread the field" which offers the OL no help in blocking a talented DL. However, Morris has been pretty good at scheming against talented DL's so hopefully not a big deal.
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Re: LSU uses a lot of "max protect" which helped negate
Oct 14, 2012, 5:48 AM
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ae does a very good job at helping out on the pass rush,and hot rod is steadily improving on this aspect of the position. ford and cooper play a ton of snaps at the tight end position, often times helping out the line before getting into their routes.
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Yeah run right at him! Down his throat!
Oct 14, 2012, 7:00 AM
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LSU showed that last night!
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COLLEGE: A three-year starter at strong safety for Clemson, finished his career with 234 tackles and 11 interceptions.
