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Orange Blooded [2425]
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Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 12:43 PM
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
The American people want to fire Obama. It's pretty clear at this point. For an incumbent president to be behind by 4% at this point in the election is horrific for him.
Americans are wising up and not buying the blame bush line anymore. They want real solution to fix the economy which after 3 and a half years of Obama and a trillion+ in spending is still in worse shape than when he took office.
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ROMNEY KILLED A MAN'S WIFE! THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF
Aug 9, 2012, 12:46 PM
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LEADER I WANT IN THE WHITE HOUSE!
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All-In [30562]
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But, he used a
Aug 9, 2012, 1:17 PM
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trident!
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Hang on a second there, professor.
Aug 9, 2012, 12:47 PM
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I can disregard most of the goofy stuff you said as opinionated flapdoodle, but nobody in their right mind would argue that the economy isn't better today than it was in January 2009.
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Orange Blooded [2425]
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Re: Hang on a second there, professor.
Aug 9, 2012, 12:49 PM
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If you can, should and obviously would. Enough of the left-wing banter, lets see some facts.
Unemployment is higher than when he took office, yet somehow the economy is better? Please explain.
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CU Medallion [56472]
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Unemployment is a lagging indicator.***
Aug 9, 2012, 12:51 PM
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Orange Blooded [3921]
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lagging indicators and hanging chads...
Aug 9, 2012, 12:56 PM
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these are the things that define our government...
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There's a pill for that.***
Aug 9, 2012, 1:03 PM
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It's been on a downward trajectory since
Aug 9, 2012, 1:02 PM
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shortly after Obama took office. Of course there are ups and downs, but the general direction is down. The thing to remember is that you need to create jobs every month just to keep the rate constant. To bring it down, jobs have to increase faster than they did during the Bush years--and they have, on average, since early-to-mid 2009.
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So if I'm understanding you correctly
Aug 9, 2012, 1:03 PM
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what you're saying is the unemployment rate is the only indicator we use to determine the strength of the economy?
I'll happily admit that unemployment is higher. That doesn't mean the economy hasn't improved since 2009.
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Re: Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 12:48 PM
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Rasmussen. Lol.
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Orange Blooded [2425]
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Re: Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 12:50 PM
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Refute it, "lol"
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Re: Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 12:53 PM
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www.fivethirtyeiight.com
This guy takes all the polls and does an average. He was spot on in the 2010 and 2008 elections.
Also look at
www.realclearpolitcs.com
Romney is losing and losing ground everyday. His favorability is the worst ever for a GOP candidate.
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fivethirtyeight.com
Aug 9, 2012, 12:55 PM
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Sorry, on my iphone
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Orange Blooded [2425]
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Re: Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 12:57 PM
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"Rasmussen's final polls had Obama ahead 52%-46%, which was nearly identical to Obama's final margin of 53%-46%, and made him one of the most accurate pollsters out there."
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Re: Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 1:00 PM
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Rasmussen had Obama trailing all the way up to the last week in 2008. He's a GOP poll whose job is to keep people like you hopeful. Rasmussen doesn't show his internals so we have no idea what kind of people he asked in the poll. In the polling world Rasmussen is least respected.
But if it keeps you happy that's all that matters
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Re: Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 1:24 PM
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So, you're admitting it was accurate. Also, you're wrong about Rasmussen, its generally regarded as one of the most accurate outlets.
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Re: Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 3:05 PM
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From the article:
Rasmussen’s polls have come under heavy criticism throughout this election cycle, including from FiveThirtyEight. We have critiqued the firm for its cavalier attitude toward polling convention. Rasmussen, for instance, generally conducts all of its interviews during a single, 4-hour window; speaks with the first person it reaches on the phone rather than using a random selection process; does not call cellphones; does not call back respondents whom it misses initially; and uses a computer ###### rather than live interviewers to conduct its surveys. These are cost-saving measures which contribute to very low response rates and may lead to biased samples.
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Orange Blooded [2425]
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Re: Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 5:38 PM
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Your first problem is quoting any source from the NYTimes, let alone a polling outlet that works for the NYTimes.
The nytimes is almost as far left as the dailykos.
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Orange Blooded [2425]
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Re: Facts
Aug 9, 2012, 5:40 PM
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Obviously you quote the NYTimes and a polling outlet that they employ. There really is no source thats further left.
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In your mind***
Aug 9, 2012, 3:17 PM
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CU Guru [1117]
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Re: In your mind***
Aug 9, 2012, 6:15 PM
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and people that have a brain.
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Re: Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 12:51 PM
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The American people want to fire Obama.
No, about half of them do. The other half want him to be president for another four years (43%), or are undecided (5%).
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Orange Blooded [2425]
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Re: Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 12:52 PM
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"about half" is what it takes to win an election. Perhaps you don't understand math?
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Re: Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 1:02 PM
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Perhaps you don't understand that you said "the American people." Which is false. Only half of them do.
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Re: Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 1:23 PM
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Perhaps you don't understand the two-party system. The voting majority does represent America.
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Re: Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 1:30 PM
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Perhaps you weren't around for the 2000 election. Do you think the voting majority voted for Bush?
But I guess under your theory of reality you'd have to admit that America wanted to hire President Obama in 2008. And if Obama wins again, then America wanted that, too.
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Re: Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 1:58 PM
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of course Clinton never got 50%; only electoral college matters.
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too bad only electorial votes count.....***
Aug 9, 2012, 12:56 PM
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Were you saying that back in 2000, too?***
Aug 9, 2012, 1:18 PM
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In 2000, he was probably saying "I have to go poopies!" lol***
Aug 9, 2012, 1:24 PM
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Re: In 2000, he was probably saying "I have to go poopies!" lol***
Aug 9, 2012, 3:28 PM
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How is that any different than now?
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That's how the game is played.***
Aug 9, 2012, 1:55 PM
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Re: Romney keeps 4% lead over Obama
Aug 9, 2012, 6:19 PM
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I distrust a CNN poll just as much as I distrust a Fox News poll.
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