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Rights in college athletics
Aug 15, 2013, 1:12 PM
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I figure ill get mixed emotions on this.
I, for one, am all for fair and equal competition in college athletics. I agree that it is completely necessary to have rules. I also agree that when you play college ball, you go in knowing the rules and that they are supposed to be the same for everyone. So you are ultimately responsible for your actions. I think taking bribes or favors to gain the favor of a commitment is also wrong. It hurts the have nots, the smaller schools and richer schools would certainly gain a huge advantage. So yes, rules are good.
However, in my opinion, the right of a person to sign his or her own name and make a profit should be completely acceptable. There is no way I'd ever allow anyone to tell me what I could do with my own name. And I think kids being punished for doing so and selling it have a solid legal case and should defend that right. And I do think EA sports should be dishing out millions to athletes who they have IMO profited from illegally.
I'm against paying college players unless that pay is reasonable and can be done in a way which maintains some semblence of fairness, but if they want to sell their own name, that is their right.
Sometimes the system is set up with such greed intended that players are not afforded the fairness they are entitled. I hope the rights of each of these young people is upheld in a court of law in a matter that's more reasonable. Right now it's a broken system indeed.
Just my two cents.
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Re: Rights in college athletics
Aug 15, 2013, 1:17 PM
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Your opinions on both are reasonable but you can't have it both ways. Saying players shouldn't be paid unless it can me "reasonable and can be done in some way which maintains some semblance of fairness" eliminates the possibility of players profiting from their name. Boosters would pay millions for the right players signature with the hope that they would join their university. You can't have it both ways. It is disappointing but it is the way of the world.
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Re: Rights in college athletics
Aug 15, 2013, 1:21 PM
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EA isn't using players names. I don't think there should be a lawsuit with EA.
Simply numbers are used to designate players on each team such as WR #2 or QB #10. No names are used. Well that is until kids or adults purchase the game and make edits themselves to include real player names.
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Re: Re: Rights in college athletics
Aug 15, 2013, 1:28 PM
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U might be right martelapts but don't you think that when they create a school team, with a certain number at a certain position and likeness, it's an implied representation of a specific player?
I just think you can argue that's too similar. Anyway, I'm no lawyer but I could see a case for the players.
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Re: Re: Rights in college athletics
Aug 15, 2013, 1:48 PM
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Hmmmmm. "There is no way I'd ever allow anyone to tell me what I could do with my own name."
If someone offers you a contract for x million dollars, you might agree to the terms of the contract, even if those terms include NOT using your own name for side ventures. A great many contracts include that sort of provision.
When athletes agree to play NCAA ball they get a great opportunity for exposure, with plenty of prime time possibilities for honing their craft, creating fans, letting the world know who and what they are about and so setting themselves up for a big payday. When they sign on for the deal, they do so agreeing to the terms of the contract, which include many onerous restrictions. The athletes sign that deal because they need the platform to advance their careers.
Clowney will be a rich rich man in less than a year because South Carolina put him on their field, in their uniform, fed him, trained him, took him to the bowl game and gave him a chance to make that million dollar hit. Clowney got opportunity in exchange for agreeing not to work an outside job, not to take money not available to regular students, not to sign contracts for future payment AND not to sell his autograph until he was finished playing 'amateur' ball for USC.
Based on how this seems to be working out for Clowney, I think the deal he struck was a very good one, even if it prohibeted him from selling his name, a name made famous at USC, until after this playing days were done.
Well, at least that was supposed to be the deal.
Harley
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Re: Re: Rights in college athletics
Aug 15, 2013, 1:22 PM
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I see your point on recruiting. That would b unfair but I still find it hard to find solid legal footing in which to stop an already attending player from selling his or her name.
But I agree that finding a solution that's reasonable is no small measure. Corruption certainly would make that difficult.
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For whatever its worth.......
Aug 15, 2013, 1:44 PM
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My two cents:
Players should be able to profit from using their names on anything that is neither related to football (or whichever their sport may be) nor their university. If a player wants to go out and start their own business, be it selling vacuum cleaners or an insurance agency, they should be able to put their name on that business and market it as their own. However they should not be able to reference their relationship to their position/sport/team/university.
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Here is one problem I see with that
Aug 15, 2013, 1:44 PM
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If I'm a rich booster with few morals, and plenty of money to try and lure a star recruit to my school. I now have a way within the rules to basically give him money when he signs.
Just tell the recruit when he signs with my school, I'll "buy" a handful of autographs for a ridiculous amount of money.
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Re: Rights in college athletics
Aug 15, 2013, 2:55 PM
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I was listening to Sirius radie yesterday driving home and that subject was brought up to Gus Mahlzan. And the point he made is that if you allow a player to receive pay for his signature you create issue with compliance in as much as how much paperwork to ensure everything was in good order and proper, how boosters would find a way to skirt the system making the colleges with large booster bases get even more of the top tier talent thus creating even more seperation from the smaller schools.. These players know the rules to which they must comply with in order to remain in good standing with the NCAA. Those who choose to ignore the rules and do as they wish should be held accountable for their actions.
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