Religion/Gubmint poll

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It's a two step process at work here (my long view)

Apr 16, 2014, 2:19 PM

First, get government involved in as much as possible. Food, education, housing, etc. This is step one, and it's important for the atheists. Then once you have everyone dependent on the government, as we are at Clemson with funding, you then enforce the reading of the Constitution that has now been accepted that government can have absolutely nothing to do with any religion. And that is how it's read. Now you can keep religion out of the schools and pretty soon school administrators, teachers, and all employees must keep their beliefs quiet from their students. And you get students who don't care about religion and it rolls on from there. They raise kids in the same schools who don't care and it all snowballs.

No one has to play football at Clemson. No one has to attend Clemson. Clemson is so popular BECAUSE we probably get away with more than we should, according to atheists. In the end, it's all about power. Nothing more or less. There's a reason totalitarian regimes are atheist. Those that aren't create their own state religion, centered around political figures who make themselves idols. Again, to achieve power. Either your God is a head of state, or there is no God at all. Either way, the state becomes the highest power.

And this is where protestants and Catholics have historically disagreed, although less so now than ever before. Historically, Catholics have intertwined religion with state powers. They have a human who leads the church. They have their own state. And that can work as long as the emphasis is on God and not the Pope. In the past this has not always been the case. But protestants know exactly where this leads, as it was seen in England with the Anglican church. King whatever couldn't get a divorce from his wife because she couldn't get him a male heir. So he starts his own church over an issue.

Protestants, on the other hand, have a history of SEPERATING church from state without eliminating religion from the state. They don't want an Anglican church, a catholic church, or some idyllic leader. They simply want to deal directly with God, and let that freedom flow TO the state. Let the state allow a free flowing relationship with God, and the leaders of that state will seek wisdom from above and not from within. That is how we were founded, and that is the reason we didn't want an established, state-sanctioned religion in the US. But there are always those who seek power, and that is why our Constitution was set up to provide checks and balances. The assumption was that true religious freedom would allow for a religiously wise state. We are anything but wise anymore, and certainly not religiously wise as a government.

So we get a government that insulates itself from all religion, and by extension, all wisdom. Our leaders follow greed and amass power and control. They thrive on envy to amass power (see vote buying and our tax code). They exhibit gluttony with their spending and even the foods they subsidize. Lust? Bill Clinton, Elliot Spitzer, Weiner, et. al. This whole post is about sloth. Wrath? Plenty of that. Pride? We have that among our leaders in abundance (we are better than everyone else). I think that covers all seven. That is what freedom FROM religion will always get you. Always has, always will. Except for our pride, we would know that. Power can then amass in people not fit to lead others. There is a difference between freedom OF religion and freedom FROM religion.

The task for the atheists now is to find someone offended by Clemson. That's all they need for our courts to force our coach not to act a certain way, or lose his job and/or Clemson its funding. What will most likely happen is Clemson will issue some statement saying students and players can worship whoever they want. What we won't see is Dabo's dressing down by administrators which will lead to freedom from religion on our football team. And we will no longer be special as the seven things I mentioned above take control.

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AND, college football coaches should not be considered

I understand that view, but who is their employer?***

This is what happens when you mix politics and religion

It's a two step process at work here (my long view)

Easy question (that should not require a long answer):

Here's a short answer......

Thanks - and I agree.

^ meant to respond to Tiggity***

I think they should tolerate all religions and endorse none

I agree that we should tolerate all and endorse none.

that's much longer than the first amendment...

So really then, the gubmint could, under the constitution,

Re: So really then, the gubmint could, under the constitution,

Well since we were founded upon Judeo-Christian values

Our laws certainly reflect our values, yet the founders

I we're saying pretty similar things,

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BTW...I chose E) None of the Above***

None of the above... the government should neither take a

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