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Regardless of what may come down the pike later, Michigan did win this
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Jan 9, 2024, 8:26 AM
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Natty in convincing fashion on the field of play. They were clearly the dominant team most of the night. They never allowed Penix and Washington to get into any kind of groove on offense, and the Huskies were getting gashed on defense with regularity as well. It really reminded me somewhat of our 2019 game with Joe Burrow and LSU, more than any other.
I think Khaki Pants is gone to the NFL now. And, Michigan "higher ups" may breathe a sigh of relief at that. He got them their Natty, and if he moves on, maybe the NCAA lets them keep it. There is already a good replacement candidate on campus in the form of their interim coach who literally coached half the regular season on gamedays this year.
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Re: Regardless of what may come down the pike later, Michigan did win this
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Jan 9, 2024, 8:28 AM
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Agreed
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So, what you are saying is...
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Jan 9, 2024, 8:33 AM
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....cheating is a low risk, high reward endeavor.
I agree with you. If the overseeing body is the NCAA, cheating is high reward, low risk.
Michigan cheated for at least two years (that we know of) and then it was discovered they cheated they were rewarded with a trip to the CFP Invitational. And, there was scarcely a mention of the cheating.
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Re: So, what you are saying is...
Jan 9, 2024, 8:39 AM
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Did Meechegan have Oregon’s offensive play signals? If so it would explain the defensive dominance in the NCG.
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There was no upside for the announcers to say anything about it. They want you
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Jan 9, 2024, 8:41 AM
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to watch the game. Saying that "Even if Michigan wins, the title will probably be vacated down the road" is not the way to make that happen.
And, while, per the rules in place, Michigan DID cheat, all they did was take what literally EVERYONE does, to the next level. As mentioned on here many times, our own Brent Venables was an acknowledged master of stealing signs. But, we didn't take it to the kind of organized, rule breaking level that Michigan did.
Regardless of all that, from at least midseason on, all this was known, and any advantage they may have gained from it was wiped out, unless opposing teams were just flat out stupid. And yet, they continued to win, right on through to the Ultimate Prize. I say congratulations to them, but get Harbaugh the Heyall out of college football. If he hangs around, he will just come up with even more inventive ways to cheat.
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Re: There was no upside for the announcers to say anything about it. They want you
Jan 9, 2024, 10:56 AM
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Stealing signs is one thing. But the NCAA prohibits attending opponents games. Which Michigan staff did.
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Re: So, what you are saying is...
Jan 9, 2024, 9:38 AM
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It boggles the mind that they were caught in what would fairly be described as a scheme upsetting the competitive balance of games and have not been punished in any meaningful way. If the NCAA is not interested in defending competitive balance, they truly have abdicated their responsibilities and their usefulness is at an end.
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Michigan didn't win anything . . .
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as constituted, they are quite a football force, but since their systematic, brazen dishonestly throws much of what they've built in the last two-plus years into question, they deserve no benefit of the doubt. They won themselves some dishonest gain, almost certainly on top of some legitimate gain underneath that. But the difficulty in sorting that out is their doing, so they can suffer the consequent blowback. They have no business doing what they did and then demanding everyone acknowledge it would have all been the same without the cheating. If that were so, they wouldn't have moved heaven and earth to cheat.
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