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1. The solution that most folks say is inevitable. Make players employees. Have collective bargaining. Sigh contracts that restrict transferring at will (non-compete clauses, in effect.)

My question is, "Why should the players agree to this?" They have it great now. Unrestricted free agents. Why whould they want to be employees subject to rules set forth by employers?

2. My solution, which universities would never agree to. Tie scholarships to graduation. Kid signs a ship he counts against your limit for 5 years or until he graduates. What school is going to sign a kid who will jump ship after 1 year for more money? Better yet, what school will take a kid out of the portal when they know he's headed to the NFL next year, without a degree?

My solution would work. It would deplete the field of eligible athletes. But, so what? I don't care if Clemson 2024 is as good as Clemson 2016. I just want Clemson 2024 to be better than Georgia 2024.

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Feb 1, 2024, 5:12 PM [ in reply to I think people are really, really confused with NIL. ]

A lot of us are still confused regarding NIL. In another thread on this post, someone indicated that the schools cant help students get paid (NIL Deals). So what exactly is the mission of Clemsons 110 Society? I am not saying we are breaking the rules. I think we are trying to do it the right way, if there is a right way. Hopefully we are teaching our kids how branding, and contracts, etc. work. That way they are prepared to handle this type of "work" in the future when their time at Clemson is in the rearview mirror.

That said, our Collective is trying to line up a Clemson Athlete with a NIL opportunity. We are not lining up a UNC kid for a NIL deal. I know people want to crack down on schools that are basically offering NIL deals prior to a kid committing. But to me, if I was on a jury, I would have a hard time finding folks guilty based on the rules and how this "system" is playing out. At the end of the day, I think most of the deals are BS. Some of these kids would not be getting these deals unless they play for XYZ school. Thats likely happening at Clemson. Few appear to be like that Gymnast from LSU. In that example, a Brand/ company is using an Athlete to market their product. Its not because she is LSU gymnast. Shes a legit world class athlete that is also very attractive. But again that is specific to the athlete and does not have anything to do with the school. DJU had a deal which I feel was above board. A regional Brand, Bojangles, gave him a marketing deal because he was at the time the premiere college QB in the Carolinas. It was not because he played for Clemson. I think they (Bojangles) gave a similar deal to the UNC QB that year, or the following year. I don't think most of these NIL deals are like that. The example in UTAH where a local car dealer is giving every Utah Offensive Lineman a new truck for some pictures at his dealership, to me, is crap. Its claimed as marketing, but if that player was not a UTAH player, they would not be getting the opportunity. So its hard for me to see that as a legitimate NIL deal. Unfortunately, that puts us into a slippery slope of opinion on what seems right, and what seems wrong. Which is a mess.

I feel like the only way to fix this is by appealing back to the NCAA or at a conference level to get a "gentleman's agreement" between the schools that are competing. Try to find common ground regarding what are the goals of the member schools in regard to college athletics. Divide the schools up appropriately, define a set of rules, and stick to them. If we are ok with kids getting no dollars or up to a certain amount, if everyone is playing by the same set of rules it will at least be fair. I think everyone would want that at the end of the day. If there is a legal issue that prevents enforcement, I guess that would have to be addressed. But I just have to believe that it is possible for a collective of schools to set rules, have its participants willingly agree (ie. schools can invest XXXX dollars, no booster activity outside the presence of the schools, and athletes agree to certain restriction by accepting a scholarship) to be able to set a level playing field. I hate to think we have to resort to government to help solve schools effectively administering what to me is a next level version of shirts and skins.

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You are right, contracts are a step forward.***

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That is the biggest problem with college football (and bball) today...

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I think people are really, really confused with NIL.

that is the way its supposed to work, but its not the way its working

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You are right.

one of the easiest things to do is to make the Scholarship a

I'm afraid the only solution...

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Well, if the players dont like it, just shut the whole #### thing down

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