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Sorry BB critics

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Mar 6, 2024, 7:35 AM
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You don't fire college basketball coaches that win 20 plus games back to back unless your AD is a total idiot.

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Tell 'em shill III

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Mar 6, 2024, 7:43 AM
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sorry but,

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Mar 6, 2024, 7:44 AM
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wrong board moran!! ;)

I'm glad we are having a great year. It'll make the tournament more exciting!! Hopefully, we'll be in the Elite 8!!

Go Tigers.

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Mar 7, 2024, 6:07 PM
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What a positive outlook.

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Class of ‘71. Went through “rat season” and glad I did.


Re: Sorry BB critics

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Mar 6, 2024, 7:47 AM
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Hoist that 4th, possibly 5th, place trophy coot.

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Re: Sorry BB critics


Mar 6, 2024, 8:13 AM
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VIZCOOT CALLING SOMEONE A COOT. NOW THAT IS RICH. HOW WERE THEM FIRST BASE LINE TICKETS SATURDAY.

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Re: Sorry BB critics

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Mar 6, 2024, 8:18 AM
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Ok Coot

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Re: Sorry BB critics

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Mar 6, 2024, 8:32 AM
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Getting to the 20 win mark in college basketball is now the equivalent of just making a bowl game in football. Last year we lost yet another NIT game on our home floor. If Brad goes 0-1 in the ACC tourney and 0-1 in the NCAA's like the 2020-21 season, then this would be another failure.

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Re: Sorry BB critics

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Mar 6, 2024, 8:53 AM
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Getting to the 20 win mark in college basketball is now the equivalent of just making a bowl game in football. Last year we lost yet another NIT game on our home floor. If Brad goes 0-1 in the ACC tourney and 0-1 in the NCAA's like the 2020-21 season, then this would be another failure.




Way to move the goal posts new guy. Unfortunately, your opinion will not stop CBB from getting a raise and/or extension.

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Re: Sorry BB critics

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Mar 6, 2024, 8:57 AM
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I haven't moved anything Cobb. I've felt this way since the 2020-21 season I speak of. Btw, do you think our ladies break out of the softball slump and make a run at another super regional?

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He only pulls Cobbox out of the box for...

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Mar 6, 2024, 9:25 AM
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...."lunatic fringe" posts. That's his specialty.

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He is not Cobbox

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Mar 6, 2024, 10:01 AM [ in reply to Re: Sorry BB critics ]
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I am. And firing a coach for back-to-back 20-win seasons at Clemson is not going to happen. CBB is going to get an extension and will be your basketball coach. If you do not like it, go sniff football jocks.

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Re: He is not Cobbox

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Mar 6, 2024, 10:25 AM
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Why did you hate Tommy Bowden so much?

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Your man crush is showing!***

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Mar 6, 2024, 11:25 AM [ in reply to He is not Cobbox ]
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Re: He is not Cobbox

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Mar 6, 2024, 1:10 PM [ in reply to He is not Cobbox ]
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If he isn’t you, how do you explain twice posting as Cobbox from the Jstone account? Household nember?

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Says the one who, obviously, sniffs basketball jocks.

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Mar 6, 2024, 1:43 PM [ in reply to He is not Cobbox ]
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Read this ... you could easily be diagnosed with this problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

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You got caught switching between accounts in 2022

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Mar 7, 2024, 1:33 AM [ in reply to He is not Cobbox ]
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And we still have reciepts. No use in denying it.

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Re: Sorry BB critics

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Mar 6, 2024, 9:58 AM [ in reply to Re: Sorry BB critics ]
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Winning 2/3 of your games is the equivalent of winning half your games in football? If you say so.

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Re: Sorry BB critics

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Mar 6, 2024, 8:47 AM
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What would you call an ad that retains a coach for 14 years and not be in the top 64 teams more than half the tine?

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One losing season in 14 years at Clemson

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Mar 6, 2024, 10:08 AM
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One of the least desirable Division I basketball jobs in the country. No history, whiney fan base, football only mentality, rural location (although not as rural as it used to be) etc. Just ask the national basketball community. Some people around here are too dumb to recognize what they have -- one of the most solid basketball coaches in the country. Just check the history of Clemson basketball. I will wait. He is the only one build something. He is the only one to win ACC road games on a consistent basis. He is the only one to win in Chapel Hill. Prior to CBB, Clemson had just 11 20-win seasons in its history. CBB has had six 20-win seasons in 14 years. Just look around college basketball. Twenty wins is still the standard for success.

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Re: One losing season in 14 years at Clemson

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Mar 6, 2024, 10:27 AM
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Doing more with less is a major accomplishment on a resume. Tell me again why a basketball school with better resources hasn't come after him. And don't give me that how do I know they haven't line. Brad would've jumped at an opportunity to go to a better situation.

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Re: One losing season in 14 years at Clemson


Mar 6, 2024, 12:33 PM [ in reply to One losing season in 14 years at Clemson ]
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They could do away with basketball all together and I wouldn't even know it was gone.

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Re: One losing season in 14 years at Clemson


Mar 6, 2024, 2:26 PM
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Why are you here? If you’re not a fan then crawl back under your bridge.

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6 to 8 cupcake wins a year make 20 pretty achievable.

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Mar 6, 2024, 3:20 PM [ in reply to One losing season in 14 years at Clemson ]
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Finishing in middle of the ACC is not getting it done.

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All of those apply to Bama


Mar 7, 2024, 7:54 PM [ in reply to One losing season in 14 years at Clemson ]
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And look how they're doing. After they realized they were done with mediocre coaching and hired Nate Oats, they've made the tourney 3 years in a row and are currently ranked 16th.

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Here we go with another lame "14 years" reference.

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Mar 6, 2024, 11:28 AM [ in reply to Re: Sorry BB critics ]
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What a pathetic attempt to minimize the fact that our two most recent basketball teams have been very good. The program is on an upswing with positive momentum. You need to acknowledge it.

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Everyone acknowledges it...

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Mar 6, 2024, 12:20 PM
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but you also can't ignore the 12 previous seasons. Overall, the results have been largely mediocre and inconsistent. Even the last two season you specifically referenced are riddled with inexplicable losses to teams that we absolutely should have beaten, something that you often conveniently ignore.

You sound like a Gamecock during their 5-year football run when they completely ignored the fact that prior to that, and since, Clemson has absolutely owned them. Basically history only matters when it supports your agenda.




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Very few of you seem to acknowledge it.

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Mar 6, 2024, 1:05 PM
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All I see from many of you is continued complaints about how inconsistent we are, how Brad didn't coach well, how we are horrible for having to win this weekend to get a top 4 seed in the ACC Tournament, etc.

I haven't seen you or any of the other usual Brownell Bashers say that we are having a good year. If I missed it, please share the link.

No one is ignoring our history, which is why our success recently is so impressive. We don't have many seasons in our 100+ years where we win 20 games, especially not two years in a row. We don't have many seasons where we have finished top 4 in the ACC, and that's true even when the ACC just had 8 teams total for many years.

It's weird how so many of you, out of your desire to criticize the program, minimize and downplay our current success and instead harp on "the last 14 years" of not making enough NCAA Tournaments. Well, we are making the NCAA Tournament this year, EASILY, with a high seed. We will be favored in our first game, and quite possibly in our second game. That hasn't happened much in our basketball history either.

If you want to dwell on the (few) negatives, that's your right, but you're missing out on what is a really good basketball team as well as a program that has really positive momentum.

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You think it's complaining because you don't like hearing or reading it...

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Mar 6, 2024, 1:49 PM
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because you're a CBB apologist. What you fail to recognize is the difference between complaining and simply stating facts.

Nobody said we are horrible for having to win this weekend to get a top 4 seed in the ACC Tournament.
The comment was if the team had taken care of business and won just a couple of those games they should have won (i.e., Miami, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech and Notre Dame), they wouldn't be in that position. Again, that's not a complaint. It's just a fact and lends its self directly to the inconsistency issue.

No one is minimizing the current success, but there was still A LOT of inconsistency both this season and last season which was a big reason why the team didn't make the NCAAT last year.

The goal EVERY YEAR is the make the NCAAT and you simply can't ignore THE FACT that in 14 seasons, Brad's teams have only made four NCAAT appearances (including this year) which is entirely unacceptable to many.

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Okay, then when I point out facts about our football team

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Mar 6, 2024, 1:51 PM
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it shouldn't be considered complaining or being negative. After all, they are just facts, right?

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Whatever helps you sleep at night princess.***

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Mar 6, 2024, 1:54 PM
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Re: Okay, then when I point out facts about our football team

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Re: Here we go with another lame "14 years" reference.


Mar 6, 2024, 1:29 PM [ in reply to Here we go with another lame "14 years" reference. ]
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14 years of sub-mediocrity over shadows 2 lame seasons of 20 wins.

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Re: Sorry BB critics

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Mar 6, 2024, 11:08 AM
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Season not over. What happens now is what really counts. A lengthy and meaningful finish to this season will be a job saver. A finish similar to last year and it's over for BB.

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LOL, Brad will be back next year.

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Mar 6, 2024, 11:29 AM
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Even if we lose three in a row to end the season.

Deal with it.

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And as a fan, you don't want to fire a head coach who has won

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Mar 6, 2024, 11:26 AM
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as much as Brownell has, especially the last two years, unless you are a total idiot.

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Re: And as a fan, you don't want to fire a head coach who has won


Mar 7, 2024, 6:10 PM
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Well then…there are a lit of idiots here, idiot.

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Re: Sorry BB critics

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Mar 6, 2024, 12:25 PM
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Post season is what you are judged by and over 14 BB has absolutely sucked at making the tournament. He’ll make it this year but to me if we lose first game time to go. I know Neff won’t but he should.

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Way to move the goalposts.***

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Re: Sorry BB critics


Mar 6, 2024, 12:30 PM
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You don't keep coaches that can't make it to the tournament no matter how many games they win unless you are an idiot.

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Re: Sorry BB critics

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Mar 6, 2024, 12:33 PM
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The reality is we are a football school that happens to play basketball and that most likely is never going to change. It is this reality that drives the Brad Bros and their followers absolutely nuts. In the end, it probably doesn't matter if Brad goes or stays because this is just the way it is.

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Re: Sorry BB critics

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Mar 6, 2024, 12:48 PM
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WELL I KNOW FOR A FACT FROM SOMEONE CLOSE TO NEFF IS THAT HE WANTS TO WIN BIG IN BASKETBALL SO IF HE REALLY DOES HE WILL DO WHATEVER IS NECESSARY WHICH AT THE MOMENT IS KEEPING COACH BROWNELL. CONTRARY TO A LOT OF IDIOTS IN HERE , BRAD IS A VERY WELL RESPECTED COACH BY HIS PEERS.

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Re: Sorry BB critics

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Mar 6, 2024, 1:12 PM
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sorry, didn't hear ya

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TURN OFF CAPS LOCK***

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Mar 6, 2024, 1:44 PM [ in reply to Re: Sorry BB critics ]
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Re: Sorry BB critics


Mar 6, 2024, 1:12 PM
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No, he's been darn OK !!! Glad you're happy with that.

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Re: Sorry BB critics

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Mar 6, 2024, 1:17 PM
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I HAVE NEVER ONE TIME SAID I AM GLAD WHERE WE ARE AS A PROGRAM IN BASKETBALL. WHAT I HAVE SAID IS YOU IDIOTS ARE DOING NO GOOD POUNDING ON YOUR CHEST 24/7 OVER SOMETHING YOU HAVE ZERO CONTROL OVER. AND I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES ALSO IF I HAVE A PROBLEM I EMAIL OR CALL. SOME OF YOU MIGHT NOT REALIZE I GUESS THAT THE KIDS IN OUR PROGRAM ALSO KNOW HOW TO USE THE INTERNET.

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Re: Sorry BB critics

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Mar 7, 2024, 1:35 AM
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Since I have coached Boys Basketball, I feel I have the right to not like some things Brad does. What can you say?

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Sorry BB pumper

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Mar 6, 2024, 1:20 PM
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Neither you nor I have any say so in the matter.

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Radakovic was an idiot for not firing him after 6 years of missing the tourney***

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So you were ok with 6 years of mediocrity?***

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I have repeatedly said and still maintain...

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Mar 6, 2024, 1:58 PM [ in reply to Radakovic was an idiot for not firing him after 6 years of missing the tourney*** ]
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that CBB should have been fired 9-years ago after the 2014/15 season. If not then, certainly after the 2016/17 season when his teams failed to make the NCAAT for six consecutive years.

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Re: I have repeatedly said and still maintain...

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Mar 6, 2024, 3:01 PM
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And most definitely after the 2021-22 season (17-16 overall and 8-12 ACC).

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A Great AD - looks at the total body of work to make decisions.

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Mar 6, 2024, 3:17 PM
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A snapshot is not the same as a movie.

14 years, we know what he is and is not. We know we are not getting to March madness enough. We know we have not won the ACC. We know we lose to some really bad teams on a regular basis. We know we are losing the best player from the past few years.

Look at the entire body of work. The story speaks for itself.

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Mar 7, 2024, 6:17 PM
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Mediocrity!!!

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Re: Sorry BB critics

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Mar 7, 2024, 6:17 PM
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You don’t fire football coaches that go 8-3. Wrong! See Ken Hatfield. See Tommy Bowden fired after taking his team to a bowl game the season before.
Brad is a Baffoon

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LMAO! The irony is thick on this one!***

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Mar 7, 2024, 6:27 PM
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Dabo has 2 national championships and 8 ACC titles


Mar 7, 2024, 7:57 PM
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Something Hatfield and Bowden never had. You're comparing apples to oranges.

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