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Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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I love and respect the guy and I want HIM to turn this team around. He’s earned the right to chart the path back to greatness. Whatever it takes, Dabo has my support. But my loyalty is to Clemson; the school, the institution, and our sports teams. If Dabo’s Clemson career ends, (for those of you hoping it’s now, you’re ridiculous) my support will shift to the next man up. So when people criticize Dabo, I’m ok with that. After all, coaches come and go. But our Clemson Tigers will never leave us. And neither will my support for them. Here’s to hoping Dabo fixes our issues and restores us back to dominance. But in the end, I don’t care who the coach is. He just has to win at a high level…. with integrity.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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I love having Dabo as our coach and I think he's done a lot to earn time to fix this. My frustration is he has seemed stubborn and he flat out lied about this team. There is no way he thought this was a championship caliber team.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 30, 2023, 6:41 AM
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He didn’t lie, imagine if you were judged with the same thing your calling a lie.
If you were proud of your wife, kids or family, that means you believe in them. Would you say my wife’s not a good mom or wife if she got sick or didn’t feel good or under performed. Would you say she’s looking fat if she ask or would you say you look good and encourage her?
If your kid played tennis or golf would you say they probably won’t win or would you say I think they are going to be great this year?
Real Tiger fans are family, the others are just getting the punch in they couldn’t for the last decade.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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You seem to be willfully naive here. Clemson football is BIG business, it's not a "family". Dabo is the CEO of this business and right now he is failing. Does he deserve more time to fix it? Yes. But if he continues to put this business at risk by indulging his only personal preferences over the direction of Clemson football then he should just retire. People's livelihoods and the university's ability to attract money, professors, students, businesses, are all totally connected to the Clemson brand being associated with excellence - primarily through the exposure of our football team. Full stop.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
Oct 30, 2023, 9:31 AM
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And people who come on this board after he is having a bad season snd band wagon people and not true fans so Ho sake thst ice yo the eskimos because a TRUE Clemson fan is buying your toilet water!! Teams have bad years do get over it or go find the next team to be a “fan” of!
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:36 AM
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Thought provoking 🤣
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That's bogus.
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:54 AM
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Real fans want the problems fixed.
Real fans support the Tigers with open eyes and open ears about the consistent poor play.
Real fans understand that Dabo placing personal loyalty above performance is hurting the team.
Real fans understand that refusing to use the portal in the age of transfers and NIL is outdated, outdated, and failing.
It's a "win now" works, and we aren't winning.
It's an adapt or die world, and Dabo is t adapting.
That said, I've been a big fan of Dabo since he took over. He's been the best HC we e ever had.
I certainly hope he fixes this. He needs to be less stubborn, lose the hubris, and get the Tigers back to consistent Top 10 form.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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I can see where Dabo thought we had a championship caliber team. Without the turnovers, we are top 2 in the country. We have a top 10 defense and we are 2nd in the nation in red zone trips. However, we can’t seem to get out of our own way! He can’t predict the turnovers. I’ve never seen a team self destruct like this one. It’s very sad
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Even without the turnovers, this offense is still pathetic.***
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
Oct 30, 2023, 9:39 AM
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Remember our great years, most games were not close. A turnover did not make us lose. Exception was 2016 when we started out winning close games & a switch flipped.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 29, 2023, 11:25 PM
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I would agree with this. Honestly really liked Tommy B and really like Dabo. But it is about wins.
Dabo has quite a bit of time based on what he has accomplished. If it is still spiraling after 3 years get back to me.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Let's hope and pray that he doesn't get 3 years to fix what he broke by giving coaching opportunities to his close friends!!!!
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 30, 2023, 6:44 AM
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What he broke? Are you out of your friggin mind? Hes the one who fixed this program!!!! Or has your brain forgotten what a laughing stock we were before Dabo got here? Do you remember espn coining the word "clemsoning"? Dabo not getting 3 years to fix the problems????? He has earned that. Tell me one coach in our history who has been better???? 2 national championships, 5 years in the playoffs, 7 acc titles. Can you think of one? Yeah, didnt think so.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 30, 2023, 7:32 AM
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6 years in the playoffs.
Played for 4 National Championships.
Won two National Championships.
(Lost all 3 CFP games we played in New Orleans Superdome, somehow).
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:30 AM
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We also lost the natty in Phoenix too in 2015
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:54 AM
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I was there. It sucked that we lost, but the future looked so bright......
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
Oct 30, 2023, 10:33 AM
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I can see how that might have read "The only games game lost were in the Superdome" but that wasn't what I was trying to say...I was trying to say more like "we can't seem to win in the Superdome, I never want to go back to NOLA to play a game there."
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Well yes, he is responsible for our decline the last 3 years.
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:27 AM
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Just as he was responsible for us becoming an elite program prior to that.
That's how this head coaching thing works.
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Brad has two top 40 finishes in 13 years.
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Oct 30, 2023, 4:27 PM
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But then you say he’s not responsible.
You’re a complete fraud and childish loser.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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We all know without Dabo we have the line 1981 championship. He made our dreams come true. We also don’t want to look back in a few years and see a horrible team with no recruiting. The rules have changed and the old formula does not work. At the same time our position coach selection has regressed. I want Dabo to succeed but he has to show he will change on both fronts or he might as well retire.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 30, 2023, 12:51 AM
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I hope that every Clemson fan put Clemson first on the loyalty train, and I'll be loyal to Dabo as long as he is doing everything within his power to make our FB team the very best that it can possibly be, and that means swallowing his pride if that is what it takes to turn around what we're seeing happening right now. If he does that I will cheer his name over anyone else, but it is all about the winning for our Clemson Tigers over any coach or any player!!!
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
Oct 30, 2023, 8:04 AM
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Good stuff.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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I agree wholeheartedly. I’ve been a Tiger my whole life. Way before I knew Dabo even existed. I’ll be a Clemson Tiger fanatic whether he’s here or not.
My preference is our best coach in program history, Dabo, pull his head out of his bottom and clean house and use the heck out of the portal.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
Oct 30, 2023, 6:44 AM
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Wow
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Not blindly loyal!***
Oct 30, 2023, 8:13 AM
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Re: Not blindly loyal!***
Oct 30, 2023, 8:21 AM
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I believe in Dabo. I also be a important change is coming to the coaching staff. If not, Dabo's going to bend to the portal. But I still see that being his last stand.
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Re: "Whatever it takes, Dabo has my support"...
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Oct 30, 2023, 8:31 AM
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That’s how it’s always goes
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yes Francis, we're all jealous of the amount of free time you have....
Oct 30, 2023, 12:51 PM
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.. and equally impressed with the level of ignorance in which you post.
As a 40+ year supporter of this school both financially, and in my 47 year career as a broadcaster, I actually allow some circumstances to change my mind on some issues. It's called open-mindedness. You should try it
Regardless of what I may have been thinking before, I've changed my tune. Sorry your small and limited mind can't handle that. But I think Dabo Sweeney deserves the chance to lead us back to greatness. If I'm wrong... like I said.. who cares! I'll hold every coach to the level I've held the others, including Dabo - win, or get the heck out. Next man up. It really is that simple. So, no! I am no more LOYAL to Dabo now than when I wrote that first post. But I HAVE decided that he's earned the right to try. So go back to your dungeon and dig up more anti-posts. If I'm ever in need of a refuse-to-change, negative minded copy reviewer, I'll give ya a call.
Francis Marion®
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The issue isn't that you change your mind...
Oct 30, 2023, 4:41 PM
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it's that you have little to no control over your emotions and you post things you end up either walking back or contradicting. And while I appreciate you posting your resume, it doesn't change anything. I know you'd like to think I had to "dig up" your "anti posts" but you made that post a week ago, it wasn't buried at all.
Keep doing you.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 30, 2023, 8:33 AM
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Y’all will do the same thing you did to DJ and are now trying to do to Cade. Then when it really falls apart and nobody wants to play here because you’re most toxic then the coots at least there will be nobody else to blame. There’s some who will blindly follow Dabo wherever but the rest are showing they only liked Dabo because we were winning. Y’all aren’t loyal to anyone who isn’t doing good enough for your ego.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 30, 2023, 8:35 AM
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Yes. He deserves a chance to right the ship.
Go Tigers!!!
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The man has earned it. Let's face it....
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Oct 30, 2023, 8:37 AM
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this is the first real downturn of the program since he got here. He built it up and took the program to the top of the mountain twice so far. He has earned the right to try and fix it IMO.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:25 AM
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Yes....
Next question...
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Yes we should
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:26 AM
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what reason does anyone have for giving up on him or this team ??
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Dabo deserves our support for sure.
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:31 AM
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We should support all of our Clemson coaches.
But that doesn't mean that we have to agree with everything they do.
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You trash Dabo every chance you get, liar.
Oct 30, 2023, 4:16 PM
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But then you stand up for your daddy like he’s actually accomplished anything remotely like Dabo.
You’re a fraud, Krump.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
Oct 30, 2023, 9:33 AM
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I wish all this change yall speak of had occured several seasons ago. Things just keep getting worse and soon we will be in for a lost decade or two if it's not already too late.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:35 AM
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I agree that the loyalty is to Clemson, not to any coach. So that brings up the question “who would you rather have instead of Dabo?” Most people are quick to criticize, whine and complain about things. And most of those people only do that and don’t bring solutions to the discussion.
Right now, I don’t know of anyone that would be available that I think we would be better off with.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
Oct 30, 2023, 9:51 AM
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THE MORONIC IDIOTS ON THIS SITE KNOW NO BOUNDS.
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Re: I agree. But we don't have to worry about that yet....***
Oct 30, 2023, 5:11 PM
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Same here. I just think those that say he should go should have a suggestion of who they would rather have.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Yes because of his past accomplishments and really, we have no other choice. Clemson can't afford to buyout Dabo's contract and then go pay another head coach to come in. Dabo is slow to react and suborn but I don't think he likes losing even less than making the changes needed to win.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:57 AM
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As coac Howard said……we should be loyal to Clemson, not ANY man!
I’m loyal to Clemson
Fix this crap Dabo!
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:58 AM
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Dabo is 100% loyal to this university and this football team, and as long as he is I will support him. To call him a liar because he believed in this team is outrageous. I can almost guarantee you that once he is not committed to the university and feels like he cannot right the ship, we will not have to fire him ....... he will resign. I'm not worried about Dabo or the football team doing things right, and am not concerned, but puzzled at those that would turn on him so quickly.
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1 bad year since 2010 - two NC, 8 ACC titles. hx of mediocrity prior to Dabo
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Oct 30, 2023, 11:00 AM
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yeah, we need to be loyal right now.
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 30, 2023, 11:02 AM
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It's got nothing to do with being loyal to Dabo. It's about making logical and rational decisions. People who want this guy fired or that guy benched are not basing their opinions on sound logic.
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GO DABO - ALL IN - GO TIGERS***
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
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Oct 30, 2023, 3:56 PM
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Yup ! ALL THINGS HAVE A PURPOSE!! This season happened for a good reason. GO TIGERS ALL IN ALL THE TIME!!!!
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
Oct 30, 2023, 3:57 PM
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Puddin'
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Re: Should we be loyal to Dabo?
Oct 30, 2023, 4:11 PM
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We should first and foremost be loyal to Clemson and do what is best for Clemson. Second, Dabo has been critical to our success and has earned some time to make the tough calls to turn our program around. However, while he should be given reasonable time and resources to orchestrate this turnaround, he is not guaranteed a lifetime contract. Accountability is incumbent upon all involved at Clemson and Dabo himself would expect nothing less.
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