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Should I buy a new car?
Mar 20, 2024, 10:07 PM
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I mean, of the internally combustin' type? I don't really need one. My SUV's only got about 80K on it, but I used to think stocking up on incandescent light bulbs was silly too.
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No! Youll get a Chinese EV and like it! - Joe***
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Re: Should I buy a new car?
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Mar 21, 2024, 8:47 AM
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You like incandescents more than LED bulbs?
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Re: Should I buy a new car?
Mar 21, 2024, 12:03 PM
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Incandescents are far superior to LED's IMO. However, seeing as how our benevolent gub'mint is forcing us to use LED's, I' sure like to hear if there are some that don't shine harsh as industrial lights.
Any recko-mendations?
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Incandescent is a more pleasing light
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Mar 21, 2024, 12:05 PM
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But just make sure you buy led’s with warmer color temps (2000-3000K) and it will get you closer to what you like and away from the bright white and blue ones.
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Re: Incandescent is a more pleasing light
Mar 21, 2024, 12:09 PM
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Thanks Obed!
Krzy below, Incandescents just seem like way more natural light. Heck, some of the LED's I've seen... I'd rather have florescent.
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Buy 2700K LEDs if your only complaint is the color temperature.
Mar 21, 2024, 12:14 PM
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Where is the "far superior" argument.
MTTF and energy per lumen output have a thing to say about it.
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Re: Buy 2700K LEDs if your only complaint is the color temperature.
Mar 21, 2024, 12:18 PM
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The light output is far superior. I don't give a twig about saving electricity.
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That's not even remotely true.
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Mar 21, 2024, 12:19 PM
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What measurement of "light output" are you going by other than you feelings?
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Re: That's not even remotely true.
Mar 21, 2024, 12:34 PM
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I'm going by what is most pleasant to my eyes. What else should I go by? The farce of saving the freakin' planet?
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The push for LED was always about energy savings over saving the planet.
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Mar 21, 2024, 12:36 PM
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It allowed the mega electrical utilities to not need to upgrade the electrical system, which is now why they're getting screwed with the advent of EVs.
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I like 4000K on the outdoor lights, wife doesn't, I lost that battle.***
Mar 21, 2024, 12:15 PM
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Better? Nah, BUT the lifespan of LED lights is
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Mar 21, 2024, 12:14 PM
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GROSSSSSSLLLLYYYY overstated... at least the cheap residental ones. I change those dang things out constantly.
I try to buy ones that are maybe not name-brand, but made at reputable plants....
Now, I sometimes have power issues at home... perhaps they're more sensitive to voltage sags and whatnot.
They're definitely more efficient... way more efficient.
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Yeah the residential drivers fail more, especially cheaper ones.
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Mar 21, 2024, 12:18 PM
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I haven't touched any of mine in 10 years at this point, but definitely have extremely reliable power at my house.
Older incandescents are also subject to the same voltage sags too. It's just an odd take to say incandescent is "far superior" to LED. It's not even close. LED has phased out high-pressure sodium, metal-halide, and high-pressure mercury vapor on the industrial front too.
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Bought some cheapos in a rush due to delivery time for my Airstream... They
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Mar 21, 2024, 12:57 PM
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were absolute crap. Have since replaced with others after a little research... Not a problem yet.
Installed 48 mini-'cans' for general lighting in my son's house. They have 3/4/5000 switch for color depending on the room.
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yea, those low profile canned ones with the adjustable colors
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Mar 21, 2024, 1:21 PM
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are nice AF
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Just need to make sure there's enough space for the driver to
Mar 21, 2024, 8:44 PM
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stay cool, whether make sure no blown insulation is over the top or it has enough room in the can, and they should last a good long time.
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If youve ever had to match color,
Mar 21, 2024, 10:51 PM
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You’ll appreciate the higher (generally speaking) CRI value of incandescents.
LED’s can be reasonable if all you care about is lumens, color temp, etc, but it costs a fortune to get a high quality LED light with a high CRI value.
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You forget my profession? lol
Mar 22, 2024, 9:43 AM
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If you need a CRI of 100, sure, incandescent and halogen are the only way. But majority of LEDs these days are 90+ CRI, which is excellent for most people...
So sure, in terms of color rendering, they can be labeled as "far superior", but that's not what he was meaning with that, and you know that.
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We still use gas lamps in our home
Mar 22, 2024, 12:08 AM
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I never bought into the entire lightbulb thing, gas lamps are more pleasing to the eye.
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