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Tyler Grisham
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Should be let go as the WR coach. It’s obvious he doesn’t know how to either evaluate or coach up outside WRs. I do think we hit on wesco but heard Jeff Scott had helped alot on him. He has done good with the slot with Williams and now Tyler brown but we have no big outside deep threats. When clemson was good we had the Mike Williams and WRs that could go up and catch a 50 yard ball that’s thrown up for him to get. We no longer have those guys. All I heard b4 Randell tore his acl last year was how much he reminded coaches of Sammy or Mike Williams. But he can’t get any separation maybe the ACL injury is still holding him back idk but from what they said about him I expected him to come out and ball. Not so much, also Troy was makin great catches for first downs and then don’t see him again for a long time. Like I’m sorry but I don’t believe in him anymore. Dabo needs to get these ex players with no coaching experience out and bring in some ppl that know how to recruit and coach up every WR not just the slot guys (where Tyler played). Some ppl might disagree but Idc Go Tigers!!!!
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Greg McElroy, a former D1 QB...
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complemented our WRs on their separation Saturday.
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Re: Greg McElroy, a former D1 QB...
Sep 25, 2023, 1:17 PM
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I was there too watching and brown troy and a few guys did create separation but Randell was not one of them. We were getting the middle of the field yes but no big outside boundary throws/catches and it hasn’t just been this game. Which outside WR have played really good all 3 games or 2/3?
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Re: Greg McElroy, a former D1 QB...
Sep 25, 2023, 1:19 PM
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I also don’t mean like 15-20 yard passing but like 40+ yard downfield catches? Which outside WR has impressed you?
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Re: Greg McElroy, a former D1 QB...
Sep 25, 2023, 3:08 PM
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Beaux Collins didn't do much either. He got worked over pretty good by the FSU DB's imo.
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Re: So now he's credible?***
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Hes forgotten more about football
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than you’ll ever know. And I’ll certainly trust a former D-1 quarterback regarding WR separation more than an average fan. And by using “now” it implies a change of course on my part, as if I said he was not credible in the past regarding the topic at hand. So if you could pull that post that would be great, or are you making stuff up… again?
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His credibility has certainly been question on this board,
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Sep 25, 2023, 8:17 PM
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sorry you missed it
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Then you should track those posts down and respond
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Sep 25, 2023, 8:19 PM
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directly to them. Not sure why you are asking me questions about the thoughts and/or comments of others.
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I'm a curious person by nature, didn't meant to offend you***
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Still waiting on that link Stud, regale us with another of
Sep 25, 2023, 8:29 PM
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your "conquests" while we wait for you to track it down
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It's your best quality, I didn't mean to offend you...***
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I knew there was a compliment in there somewhere***
Sep 25, 2023, 8:36 PM
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He's saying you're the best smelling turd in the outhouse.
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HTH
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And that's not a compliment?***
Sep 25, 2023, 8:42 PM
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It is if you like being the big turd in the little pond.
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I'd probably like it better than being a small turd, but I
Sep 25, 2023, 8:52 PM
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lack your experience, so I am willing to pivot if you can explain why I wouldn't
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Whatever size turd suits your fancy guy.
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You be you.
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Thanks for the advice...Who else could I possibly be?***
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Re: Thanks for the advice...Who else could I possibly be?***
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Re: And that's not a compliment?***
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Not sure you're actually sorry***
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Good catch
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Sep 25, 2023, 8:38 PM
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I’m not.
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I don't care if you lie to me, I just didn't want you lying
Sep 25, 2023, 8:40 PM
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to yourself
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Glad you finally agree...I knew eventually you would***
Sep 25, 2023, 9:25 PM
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Re: Glad you finally agree...I knew eventually you would***
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Re: Not sure you're actually sorry***
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You are thinking about Doxxing
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which legally speaking is harassment, so nevermind, you covered it.
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Are you referring to the guy who was tweeting our recruits/
Sep 25, 2023, 9:29 PM
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potential transfers and telling them not to come to Clemson? Because he had already been doxxed
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If you rob a bank thats already been robbed
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you still robbed a bank.
But you don’t have to explain it to me. I’m not going to rat on you.
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You can't de-virginize someone who isn't a virgin...The info
Sep 25, 2023, 9:35 PM
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was already out there...At worst I would catch a doxx-adjacent charge which would be dropped in the pre-trial phase
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Save it for the judge.***
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Jeff Davis? In my heart of hearts, I think I would get a
Sep 25, 2023, 10:21 PM
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favorable ruling from him
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Re: Jeff Davis? In my heart of hearts, I think I would get a
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I like this spamming tactic, think I'm going to borrow it...
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Ever wonder how many times I can tell people you thought the Upper Deck and the Top Deck were two separate areas?
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Re: I like this spamming tactic, think I'm going to borrow it...
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I look forward to finding out***
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Re: I look forward to finding out***
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Should have taken your own advice CoachGlitch***
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Re: Should have taken your own advice CoachGlitch***
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Disclaimer: This guy above thought the Upper Deck and the
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Top Deck were two separate areas of Death Valley
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Receivers were a strength Saturday
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Several tough catches
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Re: Receivers were a strength Saturday
Sep 25, 2023, 6:15 PM
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Brown made some good catches and Troy made some good first downs, bringingstool as well but how many yards do Collins have or Randell, not to count the lousy outside blocking. I will repeat this has to do with Outside boundary WRs. He can find slot guys aka Antonio Williams and Tyler brown but we need both to get back to where we want to be inside and outside for deep balls.
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Okay. But
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the WR just had good hands on a lot of those plays, which is great.
But I judge the coaching on stuff like blocking and route running.
None of that has looked good since Grisham came along.
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Re: Tyler Grisham
Sep 25, 2023, 6:18 PM
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I feel good about Brown, Williams, Stelato, and even Collins.
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Re: Tyler Grisham
Sep 25, 2023, 6:19 PM
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Our Starting Recievers should be Williams, Brown, Stellato. with Collins and Randall rotating in. based off of results IN GAMES those are our best recievers. Idc about practice, I want the ones that step up on gameday.
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Re: Tyler Grisham
Sep 25, 2023, 6:58 PM
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I think he'll be ok. He's got Dabo available to him at any time and I'm sure Dabo would help him in any area he's struggling. I'm sure Jeff will also be of more use to the team than what we've heard so far. When he recently said they love it here and want to raise their children here , I think the writing is on the wall.
In no way would he sit by idly and watch the team suffer if he's certain he could be of some use.
The proof will be in the pudding as they say , next year when we once again field a solid unit.
I think we expected Riley to be more of a " plug and play " OC given that he won the Broyles award for the nation's top Coordinator. People perhaps need to be reminded TCU had the second highest drafted WR in June in addition to a 4th rd pick. At the moment we have no such talent.
Let's be fair to Grisham and give him a little more wiggle room.
They'll get better. No excuses next year. None
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Re: Tyler Grisham
Sep 25, 2023, 8:21 PM
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This is year 4 from Grisham and that WR room is a far cry from the one he inherited. I want to see a ton of improvement by the end of the season:
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Re: Tyler Grisham
Sep 25, 2023, 8:45 PM
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It's year 1 for Riley's offense. They're just not clicking. I think we'll see improvement by years end but not in leaps and bounds. But I can guarantee you the staff will work to get it fixed.
I still maintain next year's unit will tell the tale
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Re: Tyler Grisham
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The WR screen doesn't work with no threat of a deep ball. When you have corners jamming receivers at the line of scrimmage the screen should not be in play.
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Re: Tyler Grisham
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I’d like to more regarding why we didn’t offer Tyler Brown until November. Kid is the only receiver I see that can take the top off the defense. He may be the best WR on the team.
That would have been a huge miss. We need to quit relying on the recruiting services. They were obviously wrong on a kid in our own backyard.
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Re: Tyler Grisham
Sep 26, 2023, 10:22 AM
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And our WR outside blocking has been horrendous and non-existent!
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