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Neither Mafah or Shipley are.
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Dec 27, 2023, 6:41 PM
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…ready for the NFL! Mafah needs to work on his speed and catching the football out of the backfield. Shipley needs to run with much better balance and control. He goes down many times on shoe string tackles. Both need to work on ball security discipline at impact. Hopefully they get good advice and LISTEN to it. Or at the end of the day even better, they need to show their own maturity, realize this and prove themselves ready next year.
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Re: Neither Mafah or Shipley are.
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Dec 27, 2023, 6:50 PM
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I think we realistically only get one back.
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Tell 'em 5-7 coot, no one knows losing better than you
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Dec 27, 2023, 6:50 PM
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LOL
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Re: Tell 'em 5-7 coot, no one knows losing better than you
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Dec 27, 2023, 6:53 PM
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Nice try. Surely you can come up with a better reply.
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Re: Tell 'em 5-7 coot, no one knows losing better than you
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Dec 27, 2023, 7:17 PM
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No he can't
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Re: Tell 'em 5-7 coot, no one knows losing better than you
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Dec 27, 2023, 6:55 PM
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Would you leave me alone? Do you have nothing else better to do? Is it that you can't actually discuss football, so this is your only service to this board? I think so.
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Tell 'em 5-7 coot, no one knows losing better than you
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Re: Neither Mafah or Shipley are.
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Dec 27, 2023, 7:02 PM
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You thought that up all by yourself?
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Re: Neither Mafah or Shipley are.
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Dec 27, 2023, 7:17 PM
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Is this joke night?
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Re: Neither Mafah or Shipley are.
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Dec 27, 2023, 7:41 PM
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Somehow I had the impression that Mafah was already planning to return. Realize now nothing was really talked about or maybe the media didn’t have access to ask him about his plans?
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Re: Neither Mafah or Shipley are.
Dec 27, 2023, 8:07 PM
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When Dabo was asked about Shipley leaving or staying, he had a wry smile and said Ship had made his decision but he didn’t want to steal his thunder.
Makes me wonder if Ship is staying and Mafah is the one trying to decide if he wants to split snaps or not.
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Shipley isnt going anywhere. Mark it down.***
Dec 27, 2023, 8:15 PM
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Re: Neither Mafah or Shipley are.
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Dec 27, 2023, 7:56 PM
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I hope Mafah stays. It’d be good if Shipley stays, but I’m kind of ready to see the next generation of RBs play too. I’m excited about Eziomume and J. Haynes. Will be a much needed boost of top end speed at that position. Shipley at 0-15 yds is as fast as any RB around, but I miss seeing a 50 yd rushing TD. We haven’t had one in 3 years.
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Re: Neither Mafah or Shipley are.
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Dec 27, 2023, 8:44 PM
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Y’all continue to buy into the myth that Shipley is slow.
It is a racist myth!
The guy is fast!
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Quick for sure. Hasnt taken many long ones to the house
Dec 28, 2023, 12:22 AM
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just outrunning everyone. But he plays hard and can break a 10-20 yarder now and then. Pretty good out of the backfield too.
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Re: Neither Mafah or Shipley are.
Dec 28, 2023, 8:59 AM
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I don’t think he is slow, but he doesn’t have the Home Run ability for some reason. Mafah has 4 TDs longer than Shipleys longest since they’ve been here, and he is definitely not a speed RB. Shipley is great at 10-15 yard chunk plays, but every starting RB we’ve had in the past 30 years has had at least ONE 40+ yd rushing TD after 2 years of starting. Shipley is a way better RB than some that we have had since the West/Bowden/early Dabo years, but never takes it to the house. Not even against FCS teams.
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Both will be back. No intentions to transfer for either.
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Dec 27, 2023, 8:02 PM
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Draft grades will not be favorable.
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Re: Both will be back. No intentions to transfer for either.
Dec 27, 2023, 8:04 PM
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Mickens said he got a day 3 draft grade, so I assumed Shipley and Mafah already have theirs as well.
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Prolly. I dont Mafah was looking necessarily, and imo,
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Dec 27, 2023, 8:07 PM
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Shipley is no Christian McCaffrey. He lacks too many variables to make an NFL roster. Again, just my opinion. Nothing personal.
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Re: Prolly. I dont Mafah was looking necessarily, and imo,
Dec 28, 2023, 12:02 AM
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The #1 all purpose back in the NFL?
He doesn’t have to be.
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Come on man. I mean in that mold and style of play.
Dec 28, 2023, 12:20 AM
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I love Shipley but he’s not strong enough or fast enough for the NFL. Just my opinion.
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Would be a shame if Mafah left and Shipley stays. Mafah is a better, more
Dec 28, 2023, 6:51 AM
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consistent back. Neither he or Shipley are blazers, but their speed is fine. Mafah can find the hole, ship just runs in to the back of his lineman.
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Re: Neither Mafah or Shipley are.
Dec 28, 2023, 8:31 AM
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The thing about speed is Mafah isn’t going to get much faster. It would make the most sense to try the NFL or play the NIL game to maximize value for one season. He’s a good college back, but runs like a 4.7 guy. There’s a niche for him in the league, but it takes finding the right spot.
Shipley on the other hand probably can boost his stock by showing he can break bigger runs. However, he was the offense for his first 2 years and will start accumulating tread wear on the tire. There was a good stat preseason around his all purpose numbers and it compared to a couple of backs who were all first and second rounders. His ability to catch out of the backfield is what gets him picked and keeps him in the league.
The larger problem for both isn’t just devaluing of RBs, but also the NFL drafts around 30 per year so getting picked doesn’t even guarantee much anymore as every team cycles through them at a high rate. Collecting $500k for NIL is a good option for botb
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Re: Neither Mafah or Shipley are.
Dec 28, 2023, 9:03 AM
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Arch Manning made over twice as a backup college QB this year than the starting QB for the #1 seeded 49ers.
This won’t last long. Once the NFL money machine gets hit from the players union that they all need raises because it’s INSANE for college players to be making more than them; we will see an adjustment to the NIL rules. I don’t know how, but big money runs everything and also ruins it.
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Re: Neither Mafah or Shipley are.
Dec 28, 2023, 9:24 AM
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If the NCAA proposal comes to fruition then athletes will make $30k from the school (salary) and then whatever NIL they can get. In the league they would make $100k on practice squad of $500k+ on active rosters. The Purdy vs Arch comparison is comparing salary to endorsements. That’s on Purdy’s agent if he can’t get him endorsements by this point. The college player will always have more leverage than an NFL player until the rules change because they can renegotiate every year via the threat of transfer. I assume the NCAA will work on making scholarships multi year deals once pay is added
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Re: Neither Mafah or Shipley are.
Dec 28, 2023, 9:33 AM
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I agree. I think the way NIL is going now, it won’t be long before the NFL players union gets involved throwing their 2 cents in. No matter the reason wether it’s endorsement deals or contracts, the players union is gonna at least ask for the league minimum to be raised substantially, then we will see some changes made to the current NIL situation.
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Re: Neither Mafah or Shipley are.
Dec 28, 2023, 9:38 AM
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Honestly, both of these guys have shown plenty. There's nothing either one is going to do to improve their stock IMO. Not knocking them, they just are what they are. And RBs are so devalued in today's NFL. You have to get what you can when you can get it. Ship already has some wear on his tread. He's had a lot of carries. You got about 5 years in the league as a RB to begin with. It's almost a knock against you if you play a full career in CFB.
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How does one work on their speed?***
Dec 28, 2023, 10:06 AM
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