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More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean
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More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean

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Feb 28, 2024, 8:39 PM
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Because I know someone will ask, he explains his methodology in the article.

https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/24085562/bracketology-2024-college-basketball-mens-ncaa-tournament-at-large-bids-locks-bubble

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Who???

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Feb 28, 2024, 8:45 PM
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LOL

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He's a blogger, which means he knows any where from 8% less to 8% more


Feb 29, 2024, 9:49 AM
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than you or me.

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Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean

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Feb 28, 2024, 9:28 PM
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Until we beat Notre Dame I don't think we are a lock since our last 2 games are tough ones.

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We are easily in, even if we lose out.

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Feb 28, 2024, 10:08 PM
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We won’t lose out, of course.

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Re: We are easily in, even if we lose out.

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Feb 28, 2024, 10:18 PM
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I'm confident as well. Looking at a 5 seed but can't agree on that losing out bit.

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Re: We are easily in, even if we lose out.


Feb 29, 2024, 1:37 AM
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Wake is 15-0 at home, it’s gonna feel real good taking one in the Forest.

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For whatever reason....


Feb 29, 2024, 9:28 AM
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we always seem to play like **** up there.

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


You're confident that we are lock if we lose 4 in a row?

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Feb 29, 2024, 10:39 AM [ in reply to We are easily in, even if we lose out. ]
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20-12 / 10-10 in the ACC / 1-and-done in the ACCT to a lower seed. I'm not sure that's a lock. I think we would start to see arguments that somebody like Cuse, Pitt, or State deserve to get in ahead of us if they finish strong, and I'm not convinced the ACC would get 6 teams given the current narratives.

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Exactly...Notre Dame would be a bad Quad 3 loss...


Feb 29, 2024, 11:35 AM
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and a 4-game losing streak ain't gonna look good on selection Sunday especially if only four ACC teams get in.

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I think we need 1more win, and then for seeding after


Feb 29, 2024, 3:42 PM [ in reply to We are easily in, even if we lose out. ]
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That. 1 more win makes us a 9 seed. 2 more wins Would make us an 8 seed, 3 more a 7 seed, 4 more a 6, 5 more a 5, BUT 6 more and ACC Champs, prollly a 3 seed.

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Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean

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Feb 29, 2024, 7:07 AM [ in reply to Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean ]
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The team is in. Has done more than enough to be in. Let's enjoy the ride.


Message was edited by: oklatiger®


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Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean

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Feb 28, 2024, 10:41 PM
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We are essentially playing for seeding at this point which is a good feeling… I wanna get hot and win the acc tourney which with a double bye I think we are capable of.

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Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean

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Feb 28, 2024, 11:37 PM
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This team has key guys struggling to make solid starts on a Tuesday after a Saturday game with injuries and fatigue. I would not look for a conference tournament run having to play two or three days in a row. Now the NCAAs give you rest days.

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Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean

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Feb 29, 2024, 4:43 AM
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Def won’t disagree with you but that’s why the top 4 is so important bc anybody we play will have played either one or two days games right before our game which gives us a slight advantage. And in the tourney atmosphere is like to think the normal grind of the season is gone and these games are a little easier to rebound from.

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Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean


Feb 29, 2024, 10:20 AM [ in reply to Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean ]
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Yeah. Clemson needs to finish strong so they can get the double bye for the ACC Tournament and then worry about the NCAA seeding.

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Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean

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Feb 28, 2024, 10:48 PM
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You don’t have to be so desperate to try and convince us. We know we’re a tournament team by now. The run is all that matters. Early acct exit would be disastrous for seeding and momentum. Playing really well, I could see a possible 4 seed.

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Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean

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Feb 28, 2024, 10:49 PM
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That being said, Brad has done a great job overall and should be retained unless an all time collapse occurred.

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Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean

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Feb 28, 2024, 11:15 PM
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Yes, he will likely get a contract extension too. Perhaps a raise. Much to my disappointment. And that has zero to do with our players or record. I really just didn't
like the way he and Neff handled last year and their desperate attempt to convince fans we were a tournament team. I thought that whole Duke fiasco over officiating was embarrassing. Whatever may or may not have been done, should have remained private. He's consistently given excuses over the years and come across desperate. He's taken it a step further this year by jumping on the b12. It really comes across as a desperate attempt to keep his job... or at least it does to me.

I'm loving this run. Everything I predicted in November about this team, and players accomplishments have come to fruition. I had a few argue and say I was dreaming but there's one goal I predicted that hasn't been reached. Winning the acc. We have as good a chance this year as we've ever had. Good team and the big 3 are not as good as years past.

That said, he'll get his raise and xtend imo and next year, we'll be fortunate to make the nit unless we bring in unbelievable talent through the portal.

Not very likely you'll bring in the best 3pt shooter in the acc and arguably the best defensive forward in the acc through transfer often, if ever again.

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Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean

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Feb 28, 2024, 11:26 PM
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I feel like we’re in the same exact page. Completely agree on the Nett handling as well. I understood the Duke rage, he’s a better man for me for not lashing out. He will get a raise, but I still think we could do better.

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Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean


Feb 28, 2024, 11:26 PM
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On*

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I feel exactly the same.

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Feb 29, 2024, 5:23 AM [ in reply to Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean ]
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After 14 years I can tell you for sure who is not the reason for our success this year.

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If we're a 4 seed and get a double bye, at least there is no chance at an 'early


Feb 29, 2024, 7:55 AM [ in reply to Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean ]
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exit!

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Many people here admit that they dont follow basketball closely.

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Feb 29, 2024, 8:14 AM [ in reply to Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean ]
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I still see posts by people acting like we are a bubble team, or need to win out or win an ACC Tournament game to get into the NCAA Tournament.

For a program that hasn’t been to very many NCAA Tournaments in its history, it should be exciting for our fans to see that we are comfortably in. This is especially true for those of you who like to harp on how the goal is to make the NCAA Tournament.

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Re: Many people here admit that they dont follow basketball closely.

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Feb 29, 2024, 8:18 AM
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No, you don’t. This is just self-aggrandizing bs.

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If JK has you on ignore


Feb 29, 2024, 7:55 PM
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does that mean he cant see your posts?
And does that mean you're just kinda talking to yourself?

(I ask b/c I dont ignore anyone, and am unsure how it works, and am too lazy to experiment.)

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Re: If JK has you on ignore

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Mar 2, 2024, 11:02 PM
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He sees my posts. He used “ignore” because it blocked downvoting from the ignored parties. That feature has been turned off.

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I think our goal each year should be to not just make the NCAA tournament, but

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Feb 29, 2024, 8:19 AM [ in reply to Many people here admit that they dont follow basketball closely. ]
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to win multiple games IN the NCAA Tournament. We need to set the bar higher for ourselves. Obviously, we haven't come close to making the Tourney most years, but to me, making it every year and going one and done would be just as bad as not making it at all. You would have the same total amount of wins either way.

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Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean

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Feb 28, 2024, 10:52 PM
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Judge, this isn't exactly breaking news. We were a lock after the ga tech game. We could have lost our remaining games and we were still in. Maybe dropped to a 11 seed but we were in. It was widely reported that after we beat fsu, we were a lock for a single digit seed.

Confused?

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No one said it was breaking news.

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Feb 29, 2024, 8:20 AM
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I enjoy following college basketball, especially Clemson basketball, and this is an exciting time of year with bracketology.

We have only been in this position a handful of times in our program’s history. It’s okay to be excited about it.

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Re: No one said it was breaking news.

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Feb 29, 2024, 8:22 AM
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You have an atrocious track record of predicting Clemson’s likelihood of making the tournament for someone that enjoys college basketball and follows bracketology.

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Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean

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Feb 29, 2024, 7:57 AM
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I believe this time we are definitely a lock no matter the outcome of the last three.

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He may be right

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Feb 29, 2024, 8:00 AM
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I went back to see what he was saying last season when we were OUT and NC State got in, despite us beating NC State 3 times. And, well, he said we were out on Feb. 24, 2023 and Feb. 28, 2023. As much as I don't like his opinion on our 2023 NCAA Tournament chances, he was correct. So until proven otherwise, this guy is batting .1000 and I'm rolling with "Clemson is a LOCK!"

#FireBrownell

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Re: He may be right

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Feb 29, 2024, 8:19 AM
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I think it was all but 3 of the 100+ brackets on bracket matrix had us out last year. It wasn’t a surprise which is why it was ridiculous for Brownell and Neff to pretend otherwise.

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Re: He may be right


Feb 29, 2024, 11:21 AM
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I think Brownell's done a good job explaining his position on the NET and how it is being manipulated. The result of the manipulation is that better teams get left out of the tournament in favor of weaker teams that did a really bang up job scheduling teams that gave them an opportunity to exploit some of the NET metrics (like offensive efficiency).

And, if I'm being honest here, Brownell was meek in his protesting. I would've burned down the NCAA HQ.

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Re: He may be right


Mar 8, 2024, 10:52 AM
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Fluxus

The offensive efficiency metric is used relative only to the score differential amongst same quad teams. Beating a quad 4 team by 30 points yields no benefit if every other quad 1 team beats them by the same amount.

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What is a Chris Dobbertean, and why is his opinion worth any more than Mel


Feb 29, 2024, 8:03 AM
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Kiper's?

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Re: More bracketology - we are a lock according to Chris Dobbertean

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Feb 29, 2024, 10:35 AM
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We all are aware, yes Clemson is a lock.

Credit to Brad for getting done what needed to be done. A harder and more rewarding non conference schedule, and he won most of it.

Basically he’s accomplishing something he’s done 3 times before. He’ll be 4 for 13 (making the tournament). Apparently this would be Judge Kepler’s national championship.

We’re good enough to make a deep run in tournament, I don’t want to undermine the potential of this team with Girard now really heating up.

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D/K who Chris Dobbertean is ...


Feb 29, 2024, 7:52 PM
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but I like him.

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