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TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott over insulating he had a Vols offer
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Aug 22, 2023, 2:21 PM
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I saw that. I find it hard to believe Elliott would turn down Tennessee just to take the Virginia job a year later. May have been a misunderstanding there somewhere.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott over insulating he had a Vols offer
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Aug 22, 2023, 2:35 PM
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I saw that. I find it hard to believe Elliott would turn down Tennessee just to take the Virginia job a year later. May have been a misunderstanding there somewhere.
I mean, you can get an offer from a brand name and the fit not be right.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he turned down the offer because some aspects of the job might not gel with him moving forward.
Honestly, looking at it on paper, Tony Elliott's personality would probably fit more with VA than UT.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott over insulating he had a Vols offer
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No chance he got a real offer. He would have made far more money, had better recruiting, and had more resources to play with. He just wasn't expecting to get called out.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott over insulating he had a Vols offer
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Aug 22, 2023, 3:19 PM
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Actually, there's more opportunity with the uva gig. It wouldn't take anywhere near as much to turn around uva. If Elliott gets the program to even, it would be a major accomplishment and an easy springboard to something bigger. He gets the chance to screw up, without huge repercussions, and he has several years to figure out what works. UT? Not much margin for error.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott over insulating he had a Vols offer
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Aug 22, 2023, 7:08 PM
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Tennessee was an absolute dumpster fire and looked like it would be a minimum of 10 years to fix that program, also had pending NCAA sanctions. UVA and Bronco had a solid program and were in the ACC title game the year before. Come on man, you’re better than that.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott over insulating he had a Vols offer
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Aug 22, 2023, 9:48 PM
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UT has a lot of booster money. The right coach and they will give him the sky. It was a dumpster fire compared to what it was 10 years ago, but compared to uva, not even close. Uva is not a football school. It's definitely had its moments, but nowhere near the same level as Tenn. The point is that Elliott, or whoever, only has to do moderately well to move up. Tenn, if you don't produce, you go backwards
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I see is as TE was not interested in UT so they didn't
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extend an offer.
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Re: I see is as TE was not interested in UT so they didn't
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Sure he wasn't. He was interested in a dumpster fire program UVA instead.
There is no was he was offered or that he was going to be offered. He simply "checked the box" on requirements to interview a minority.
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Re: I see is as TE was not interested in UT so they didn't
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UT was kind of a dumpster fire when he interviewed, with potential sanctions lurking in the shadows. I could see why Tony wouldn't want to have to deal with some of their boosters. He seems like a better fit at UVA anyway.
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Re: I see is as TE was not interested in UT so they didn't
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My thoughts exactly. Black cloud hanging over that program and then it was uncertain on which way that would have went. First coaching job should not be Tennessee imo. Get ran out of there fairly quick if things don’t go well.
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Re: I see is as TE was not interested in UT so they didn't
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I guess you do not like truth. I can "pull for the tigers" without putting on orange lensed glasses. NOTHING about T.E. qualified him for that job. His stats as coordinator, not co-cootdinator were not good. Everyone in the know, knew he was riding the T.L. horse. Without a generational Q.B. like T.L., Tony Elliot would have looked like crap.
Just watch UVA.He will be mediocre at best.
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Re: I see is as TE was not interested in UT so they didn't
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Aug 23, 2023, 12:27 PM
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Yes sir. He earned his paycheck off the back of Watson and Lawrence. That lefty QB Virginia had looked awful last year after a great statistical season before Elliott arrived.
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Re: I see is as TE was not interested in UT so they didn't
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Aug 23, 2023, 12:31 PM
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Then he left and went to NC State. Must not have been a good fit.
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I get the Tennessee AD not wanting his program to be misrepresented but
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That just seems like a tacky response. TE showered your school and program with praise. If you want him not to talk about it, or if you remember the situation differently, give him a call. Maybe you were never going to offer him but he stopped the process before it got to that. I just don’t see TE intentionally misrepresenting the situation.
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Yep. I think that was a think twice before hitting send
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moment for UT AD. TE never said he had an offer or turned down an offer. It sounded like a very Daboesque answer:
"So when it came down to it, I prayed about it and said I wanted the Lord to lead me in the direction that He'd have me to go."
It was not the right time for him because the offer did not come.
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Exactly right Swarley.....this AD has a history....
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Aug 22, 2023, 3:40 PM
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of being a bit sensitivelike the claim UCF was the NC in 2017.....I mean...c'mon...good team, but beyond the pale...
As Brent Veneables has said..."less is more." Probably advisable that TE not go into that detail and just compliment UT....but White should THINK, WAIT(Why Am I Talking) and take it as a compliment. Again, too sensitive. You wouldn't see Neff do something like this...
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Re: I get the Tennessee AD not wanting his program to be misrepresented but
Aug 23, 2023, 9:37 AM
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Tony's exact words leave the impression he was offered. You can't turn down what you were never offered.
What T.RlE. said was an insult to Tennessee that was wrapped in praise.
"You are good. Heck, you are great. But you are not good enough for me."
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
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This is tacky by Elliott. There's no reason for him to discuss Tennessee, his candidacy there, a job offer, or anything of the sort. Easy - "I'm here to talk about Virginia" and move on.
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I’m glad the Tennessee AD took the time to address…
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this important matter.
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Aug 22, 2023, 2:51 PM
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
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Aug 22, 2023, 2:52 PM
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Tony was offered and turned them down and I don’t blame him—-
That AD looks like crap with that text—-Heupel was not even on the radar
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
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Aug 22, 2023, 6:43 PM
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So in hindsight Tennessee made a great decision
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
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Aug 22, 2023, 2:59 PM
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Just a trashy response from an AD that works for a trashy fan base. Never blamed Kiffin for leaving the way he did. Probably would have set house on fire
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
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Aug 22, 2023, 3:08 PM
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It would have been wise not to bring up the matter. He has to know what that program is like and the type of response he would receive.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
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Aug 22, 2023, 3:14 PM
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More confirmation that the Vols are trash. It wasn’t even necessary for the AD to make that statement.
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Re: He Wanted....He Saw....It Was Not The Right Time ---
Aug 22, 2023, 3:36 PM
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Sometimes you can just feel it. At the time Tennessee was an on going circus with the troubles they were expericing. Deon Sanders got it cushy compared to what Tennessee had going on in the offices. Tony Elliott probably sensed the pressure cooker there and knew he was going to be in a crockpot and probably felt it wasn't worth it.
Danny White probably doesn't remember because he probably never took Tony Elliott too seriously. Maybe Danny was so boozed out of his mind he doesn't remember what he did that day. Maybe Danny was so geeked up about Huepel he had tunnel vision.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
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I think if anything this looks bad on Elliot for saying something that isn’t true. I mean honestly if Virginia offers you a job and Tennessee offers you a job who you picking
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
Aug 23, 2023, 9:39 AM
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I would pick the Pinto over the Alston Martin, but that's just me.
Everyone in their right mind knows T.E was not and was never going to be offered.
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UT was under investigation***
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
Aug 22, 2023, 4:57 PM
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TE was never offered the Tennessee job. He will be lucky to still be at VA after this year.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
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Yep. Agree. I know I will likely get downvoted because I too truly believe TE is a really, really good human, but he's not a great OC. He benefited from a crazy good run of QB's at Clemson that masked his increasingly outdated and stale Offensive philosophies. Again great human; mediocre Offensive mind.
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UTenn AD trying to stir the pot.
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Aug 22, 2023, 5:01 PM
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Would laugh my scrawny butt off if, by some major miracle, UVa wins.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
Aug 22, 2023, 5:21 PM
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Why is this even a story. Just a pissin contest
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
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I don’t see where Tony Elliott said that he ever got an offer. He said he got an interview. I think this is one bad assumption after another. Sorry, Danny.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
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"When I evaluated it, there were a lot of positive things about it. It just wasn't the right time for me. So when it came down to it, I prayed about it and said I wanted the Lord to lead me in the direction that He'd have me to go. So, it was close. But at the end of the day, when I looked at the totality of everything, it just wasn't the right time and the right fit for me."
Tony doesn't say he was offered or turned down an offer. He may have told White he was no longer under consideration or simply been waiting to see if a formal offer was made.
This confirms Tony's feeling was right.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
Aug 24, 2023, 7:03 AM
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100% +1
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Offer or not, looks like TE made the right decision
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Aug 22, 2023, 6:35 PM
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staying the heck away from TN.
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IF Tennessee did offer you the job
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Aug 22, 2023, 6:39 PM
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And you decided to take the Virginia job over Tennessee… Wow… I can’t imagine how crazy you are.
Tennessee had/has its craziness. They’ve been through their fair share of coaches but Tennessee is a blue blood program and one that your are given everything you need and more to be successful.
So while I think the TN AD probably shouldn’t have responded I also think Tony should be more careful to not make it seem like he really had a choice.
Again, no one o would pick Virginia over Tennessee so it’s clear Tony wasn’t offered the job.
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Re: IF Tennessee did offer you the job
Aug 22, 2023, 7:21 PM
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He wasn't choosing between Tennessee and Virginia. Those offers (or non-offers) happened after two different seasons
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You don't understand UT.
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I grew up in East TN. The donors determine who to recruit and sometimes influence who starts in a game. The tail wags the dog in Knoxville.
Those idiots fired Phil Fulmer who was the best coach they had in two decades. Two years out from a conference title and they fired the guy. I lost no love over Fat Fill but he was a good coach. A few coaching changes and they begged him to return to coaching. lol
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Re: You don't understand UT.
Aug 23, 2023, 9:43 AM
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I think a lot of parallels can be drawn between Fulmer and Ford. It's not the Wins and losses, it's all the other crap that was going on.
I think firing both were huge mistakes, but I also understand why it was done.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
Aug 22, 2023, 7:03 PM
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"I think you have to play games like this to get a barometer and to gauge where we're at."
…and that my friends is most likely why he’s not doing great at Virginia, going 1-3 in the league. He’s using a barometer to measure success at football! Maybe he would have more success as a weatherman.
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Looks like it worked out well for Tennessee so far***
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Imo, Elliot was acting kinda tacky to have said that.
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WHile you might share with a friend that you turned down a job it doesn't seem in good taste for a D1 coach to make such a statement and embarrass a program like UT.
Tony Elliot knows better than that.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
Aug 22, 2023, 7:29 PM
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Isn't this the same AD that came from UCF when they hung a fake 2017 National Championship sign in their stadium because they won the Peach Bowl against Auburn? Figures.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
Aug 22, 2023, 7:38 PM
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I'm sorry but I 100% believe Tony here. Elliot is a man of character and integrity while anytime UT related reeks of bill sh*t and crookedness.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
Aug 22, 2023, 8:10 PM
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After the interview, Tony could have said, "thank you for the interview, but at this time I would not be interested in an offer". I would say that is turning them down!
I was turned down for many a date before an offer was made
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Should anyone find themselves surprised by this
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Complete teenage girl-esk diss attempt, remind yourself, it comes from the Tennessee program.
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Suns up Tenn’s program right there
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Thin skinned Conference USA-level AD trying to prove his worth through elitism. Tenn fixed their bagman problem and Heupel will be fine as long as that holds up (see UGA).
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
Aug 22, 2023, 9:19 PM
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He probably didn’t want to be sitting at home flipping burgers.
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Saved him
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From having to listen to Rocky Top nine billion times
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
Aug 23, 2023, 5:00 AM
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Could someone educate me on this?
I was at the beach, saw a guy decked out in Tennessee garb and being a good sportsman, I congratulated him on their bowl win.
He proceeded to jump me saying that was the way they wanted to win since Clemson stole/cheated their recruitment and staff 15 years ago. Told him I had no idea what he was talking about. He wouldn't quit. Told him I was trying to compliment Tennessee, but I decided to take it back and have a nice day, then walked away.
What am I missing?
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
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Could someone educate me on this?
I was at the beach, saw a guy decked out in Tennessee garb and being a good sportsman, I congratulated him on their bowl win.
He proceeded to jump me saying that was the way they wanted to win since Clemson stole/cheated their recruitment and staff 15 years ago. Told him I had no idea what he was talking about. He wouldn't quit. Told him I was trying to compliment Tennessee, but I decided to take it back and have a nice day, then walked away.
What am I missing?
Possibly an uneducated Tenn fan referring to Tajh Boyd???
Tajh was originally a Tenn commit and flipped to Clemson….
Lane Kiffen told him he wasn’t a good fit when he took the job…I’m not sure how Tenn could be angry about that…it was Lane’s own doing…
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
Aug 23, 2023, 4:17 PM
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Thanks!
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
Aug 23, 2023, 5:10 AM
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Answer: Tennessee fandom
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
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Aug 23, 2023, 5:47 AM
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Elliot is Ina job where it's almost 100% he will be fired within a few years. He might have had a better chance with TN. I don't think he will ever succeed as a HC though.
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Tony is a lot better off at UVA
Aug 23, 2023, 9:10 AM
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They would have eaten him alive at TN
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Trying to look at this unbiased...
Aug 23, 2023, 11:48 AM
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Elliott should probably not have acted like he had a choice in the whole thing...he's probably just walking thru his logic...its how he thinks.
White should not have responded but if Elliott has gone on record twice acting like he turned them down then I'd be a bit miffed too.
In the end, UT got the better end of that deal. That's easy to say after the obvious yr 1 results, but What Heupel did last year was impressive and Elliott made UVA worse. The Wahoos recruiting is also garbage....just being real, he had one of the worst classes last year in the ACC, will have another crap class and they will probably go 3-9 this year. And UT will beat them 52-7.
I love Elliott but he has a really long road ahead and probably needs to not act like he scorned UT for greener grass in the Albermarle County.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
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Aug 23, 2023, 12:20 PM
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Gonna find out that you still have a significant amount of work yet to do. This game could be ugly. Hope not. I want Tony Elliott to succeed. And I'd like UVA to beat UT. But, I'm not feeling it this year.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
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Aug 23, 2023, 12:23 PM
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Tennessee dodged a bullet.
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Re: TNET: Tennessee AD calls out Tony Elliott
Aug 24, 2023, 9:49 AM
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In this case, Elliott is in the wrong. The Vol AD needed to address this either publicly or better yet in private to Hueple bc no AD wants their hire to know he was second choice. But you bet that Vol fans are thinking….thank God Elliott didn’t take the job if it WAS offered
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