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Any of you basketball pumpers want to make a bet?
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Jan 15, 2024, 12:57 PM
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I’ll wager that this academic year the winning percentage of our football team will be better than the CU men’s basketball team by the end of this basketball season (about 2 months from now).
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Re: Any of you basketball pumpers want to make a bet?
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Jan 15, 2024, 1:14 PM
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Seems odd that you are so willing to bet a team you support fails. Most "fans" actually hope their team wins their games.
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Pete Rose was able to do both.***
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Re: Pete Rose was able to do both. You bet
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Jan 15, 2024, 1:35 PM
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Well played
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But he got banned for it .. ***
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I'll take that bet.
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Jan 15, 2024, 1:25 PM
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Our football team finished the regular season 8-4, a winning percentage of .667.
We play 31 regular season games in men's basketball, and a 21-10 record would be a winning percentage of .677.
That would mean a 9-6 record the rest of the season for our basketball team. I believe we will meet or exceed that performance.
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Interesting how leaving the post-season out of the academic year benefits
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basketball.
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The original author would have to clarify
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Jan 15, 2024, 1:38 PM
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… whether he meant a 9-4 record or an 8-4 record. I didn’t see anything to imply regular season record in his original post. Therefore, the basketball team would have to go 22-9 for the regular season.
Does that 1 game make a difference for your accepting that bet? 🙂
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Im trying to make it fair since our football team didnt make the playoffs
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Jan 15, 2024, 11:43 PM
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and I am confident our basketball team will.
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Re: Im trying to make it fair since our football team didnt make the playoffs
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Jan 16, 2024, 7:34 AM
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Trying to make it fair by omitting a post season win? But we shouldn’t be surprised by any effort by you to undermine the accomplishments of the football team. Spin, baby, spin.
Don’t understand why anyone would want to bet against any Clemson team.
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I'm not undermining the football team at all.
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Jan 16, 2024, 1:12 PM
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Nor am I betting against any Clemson team.
Are you sure you meant to respond to me? If so, I don't see how you got that from my post.
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Re: I'm not undermining the football team at all.
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Jan 16, 2024, 3:48 PM
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You most definitely undermined the football team with that post. As you do at every opportunity.
And the comment about betting against any Clemson team was a general comment about the entire thread. You see, when you start another paragraph it indicates a change in subject or topic. At least to most people.
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Our football team has done a good job undermining itself the last three years.
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Jan 16, 2024, 4:24 PM
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They haven’t needed my help doing it.
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JK - you are such a obtuse clown.
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Jan 17, 2024, 11:21 AM
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Sickening
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Cant believe Im doing this but to his point
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Jan 16, 2024, 1:27 PM
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in football if you’re not in the playoff then you can avoid a loss by winning a single game. You can’t do that in basketball. In fact, you can have tourney success but still have to take 2 losses if you are not ACC or NCAA champs. You’d have to go a minimum of 4-2 in the ACC and the NCAA combined to maintain a .667 win %. 5-2 to match football team if you were tied with them heading into postseason play. 5-2 in postseason basketball would be incredible for Clemson basketball. I think you would almost have to make any wager based on reg season alone and then make a separate bet on postseason success/failure.
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Thank you. My thoughts exactly, which you stated much better than me.***
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Re: Im trying to make it fair since our football team didnt make the playoffs
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Jan 16, 2024, 9:15 AM
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I have been confident they would do a lot of things but after time you learn that things are what they are. I do not expect Brownell to just start figuring things out after the amount of time he has been here.
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Finishing in the top third of the ACC last year
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Jan 16, 2024, 1:13 PM
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and likely doing it again this year is him figuring things out.
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Why do you keep propping up the ACC?
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We were the 5th or 6th best conference last year and we are again this year.
Finishing 3rd then bowing out in the ACC tourney then losing at home as a #1 seed … those things completely override your worn out “3rd in the ACC” (supposed) accomplishment.
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Considering the fact that we have about a handful of upper echelon ACC finishes
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Jan 16, 2024, 4:29 PM
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in our entire basketball history, and have never won the ACC Tournament, I recommend starting with the ACC for comparison purposes.
Plus, since the ACC is more of basketball conference than a football conference, and we spend less on our program compared to most ACC teams, doing well in the ACC shows that we are doing something right. It’s a huge accomplishment for a football school like us with the poor basketball history we have.
It’s fine to look at other metrics too. Regionally, we compare favorably to South Carolina and Georgia in recent years when it comes to basketball.
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It's not a shot. It's reality.
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Jan 16, 2024, 1:19 PM
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It doesn't seem fair to compare winning percentages between teams from different sports when one team potentially has multiple postseason games and the other does not.
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Boo.
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Jan 16, 2024, 12:39 AM
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You know season football season records include bowl games plus even the new postseasons. So does basketball.
Don't play dumb, princess.
And knowing that, why bail out on Brad's opportunities for post-season bumps?
Chump.
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The football season for the academic year 2024 has not yet been played.
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Jan 16, 2024, 9:10 AM
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Just a technicality there.
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Please reread the original post.
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Jan 16, 2024, 1:24 PM
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The original post said:
"I’ll wager that this academic year the winning percentage of our football team will be better than the CU men’s basketball team by the end of this basketball season (about 2 months from now)."
It's clearly talking about the 2023 Clemson football season we just completed being compared to the 2023-2024 Clemson men's basketball team.
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Re: Please reread the original post.
Jan 16, 2024, 1:28 PM
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This adamemic year which runs from Summer 2023-Summer 2024
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Doesn't really matter, the football team is going to win the bet either way.
Jan 17, 2024, 8:56 AM
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Re: I'll take that bet.
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Jan 16, 2024, 11:57 AM
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9-4
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You may not know this but the Flying Dabos won their post season game.
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You didn't specify postseason as well.
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Re: You didn't specify postseason as well.
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Jan 16, 2024, 1:54 PM
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The postseason is part of the season. I know that's hard to understand when you focus on Brad and his inability to make any noise in the postseason whatsoever.
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Re: I'll take that bet.
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9-4 was our record this year. Not sure why you throw out the postseason game......oh wait never mind. Sadly our basketball team since joining the ACC (1953) would have beat our current football winning percentage of 69% a total of THREE times.
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Your original post wasn't clear.
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Jan 16, 2024, 1:27 PM
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Since you were ambiguous, I decided to make it as fair a comparison as possible.
Basketball teams play at least one conference tournament game, and if they qualify for postseason play (which we will) they play at least one postseason tournament game as well.
Our football team did not have a postseason ACC game, much less a series of postseason ACC games in a tournament format, nor did they qualify for the playoff with the chance for multiple playoff games.
This is your bet and you can do it however you like, but you should be more specific next time. Otherwise, you leave it up to others to assume.
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Re: I'll take that bet.
Jan 17, 2024, 10:45 AM
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Minus conference games we may …
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Re: Any of you basketball pumpers want to make a bet?
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Be a better bet if you would just bet on if they finish higher in the polls than the football team. Basketball plays to many cream puffs to make that a fair bet.
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Our basketball strength of schedule is currently better than our
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football strength of schedule.
Looks like our football team is the one playing more creampuffs.
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Re: Our basketball strength of schedule is currently better than our
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85 you do know that is BS.
Will say FAU and Charleston Southern were cream puffs, but the list does get lengthy for basketball.
Judge Keller®
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basketball pumper here..
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Jan 15, 2024, 1:49 PM
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but no betting. I can't afford any more sins.
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Re: Any of you basketball pumpers want to make a bet?
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The crazy thing is that if it happens this year it would be only the 2nd time basketball's percentage has been higher than football during Brad's stay. The only other time was Brad's 1st year. Basketball went 22-12 and football lost that stupid bowl game in Charlotte.
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How many of those years since Brad took over has basketball
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Jan 15, 2024, 11:44 PM
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been the priority at Clemson?
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Re: How many of those years since Brad took over has basketball
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Typical Judge Keller fallacy - a bit of red herring and hasty generalization wrapped up in a single sentence. It’s non-responsive to the original post, attempting to redirect the issue. And, more important, the underlying implication that Clemson prioritizes basketball differently than most of its primary competition is wildly untrue. Troll on.
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Re: How many of those years since Brad took over has basketball
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Jan 16, 2024, 9:18 AM
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We have had this wrong all along. It’s not coaching it’s the admins fault.
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Re: How many of those years since Brad took over has basketball
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Hopefully it’s been the priority to Brad every year. And really that’s all that matters. As Dabo has always said, I can’t control anything but me.
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How many of those years has any sport held more sway over football?
Jan 16, 2024, 6:12 PM
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Hasn't stopped countless programs from winning conference and natty glory, along with programs with ZERO history here getting it done.
Basketball has a Top 40 national budget. Brad has us averaging 75th place at season's end, including last year's 'great season' that plummeted to the 70's thanks to our late season fold.
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Re: Any of you basketball pumpers want to make a bet?
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We have "fans" trying to bet against this basketball team. Wow, just wow.
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I guess we have earned our reputation as one of the worst basketball fan bases
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Jan 15, 2024, 11:45 PM
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in the ACC.
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No doubt you have earned your reputation
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What we've earned is a reputation of a team that will fold
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dramatically come ACC Tourney and NIT Tourney time - with that ONE exception - make sure you hang your hat on that ONE time - that 7% occurrence - Cultists.
And historically, what we've earned is a reputation of a basketball team that is exactly like the coots in football . . . . for the entire history of the ACC. (And that history has NOTHING to do what we COULD be going forward.)
That's the reputation we have.
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Brad has taken our attendance from 9,000 to 6,500.
Jan 16, 2024, 6:23 PM
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We've allowed this incredible brand of ours to wither on the hardwood under him.
You only push Brad on us Tigers all this time to see us fail here. It's a real shame you're able to carry on so freely on here with no recourse.
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Re: Any of you basketball pumpers want to make a bet?
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Tired of the same movie year in and year out. Doing the same thing expecting things to change is just asinine. There is no defense for the typical meltdowns that will hit in January and February. Fans don’t want it or pull for it but now expect it.
Not sure how a fan of a better basketball program chooses to defend the current era. All I can say is wow!!
And the ACC is no longer the powerhouse you want to believe it is!
Clemson mountaineers®, Judge Keller®
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Re: Any of you basketball pumpers want to make a bet?
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You dont watch our basketball team consistently. That much is obvious.
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Re: Any of you basketball pumpers want to make a bet?
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... easy money
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Leave it to the Cult to smoke & mirrors the whole thing - what TC said is
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really straight forward . . . .
Our football winning percentage was 69.23%
When the basketball season is over - the final record of our basketball team has to be better than 69.23%.
Nobody said anything about regular season, etc, etc.
Why do you Cult guys make it so complicated ? Ohhh - that's right - because you have to because our doorknob coach sucks, so you convolute with a buncha crap that doesn't matter.
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Re: Any of you basketball pumpers want to make a bet?
Jan 16, 2024, 1:26 PM
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It would be more impressive to see the basketball team finish ahead of the football team in the final AP poll, which would mean something inside the Top 20.
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That would be impressive, since there are many more division 1 bball programs
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than division 1 football programs eligible to be ranked.
Basketball = 351
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Exhibit 63,170 of smoke & mirrors by the Cult ^ ^ ^ ^ ^***
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Re: ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Exhibit 63,170 of smoke & mirrors by the Cult ^ ^ ^ ^ ^***
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Facts offend rocky brain.
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Re: ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Exhibit 63,170 of smoke & mirrors by the Cult ^ ^ ^ ^ ^***
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I guess you sports geniuses don’t realize that both FCS and FBS are part of D1 and are all eligible for the AP poll. Once again proving that you’re both FOS trolls who strangely have this exact same gap in their knowledge about college football.
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FCS and FBS are both Division 1? And FCS teams are eligible and have received votes in the AP poll. And they are just as unlikely as their corresponding basketball programs to be ranked, so more straight up bs from Judge Keller.
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Update winning percentage after GT loss
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Basketball to date .70
Football for academic year was .69
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