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Everyone now is talking about the brokenness
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Jan 2, 2024, 4:35 PM
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of college football. It is no longer a secret but out in the open for all to see. The driver is no leadership greed dishonesty and no more money. Many schools have nothing but mercenaries playing for them that are not concerned about a diploma. If you are an athlete at some of these schools it is easier getting one than buying one online. The typical college football fan is becoming very disconnected.
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Re: Everyone now is talking about the brokenness
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Jan 2, 2024, 5:37 PM
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It is really simple, watch the game without wondering where the players came from and you would be amazed to learn that football is just as exciting as it ever has been. Millions of people do that every game and that is why tv ratings are what they are.
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Re: Everyone now is talking about the brokenness
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Jan 2, 2024, 7:41 PM
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🤣🤣🤣 no one is that dumb.
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no leadership
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Jan 2, 2024, 7:05 PM
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This has been the worst bowl season ever
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Re: no leadership
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Jan 2, 2024, 10:09 PM
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I have watched a total of 4 games. 2 playoff, Clemson, and half of FSU, and pcs of about 3 other games. Normally I would watch 20+ bowls. There is going to be an awakening soon, where alumni dont feel connected and their sports donations are going to fall. The alumni season seat holders are going to decrease and it will be corporations buying them as perks instead of fandom.
When alumni dont recognize players from previous yrs, the jersey sales for players/school are going to drop, the lesser games will lose tv appeal because if you cant make 12 team playoffs, you won't recognize your post season team anyway.
This college football is on an avalanche that major course corrections will lead to unrecognizable sport we used to love. I quit watching NFL because of primadonnas and am quickly following suit in college. I will watch Tigers but I will also watch sports with committed athletes like Soccer and Softball with glee in knowing they are there for the school and love of sport vs NIL.
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Interesting
Jan 2, 2024, 8:37 PM
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Because students are now allowed to share in the insane wealth generated by CFB, they become "mercenaries".
I got news for you: That is what coaches, administrators, TV networks and everyone else already were.
The selective outrage continues.
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Re: Interesting
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Jan 2, 2024, 8:54 PM
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The trade off was a free education, premium coaching, housing, mean plans, as well as the side benefits of status or being big man on campus etc. Usually several hundred thousand dollars of value. Not including Pell grant money that went straight in their pocket if they came from a critical needs background.
But since that wasn’t good enough (or was it?), now we must also pay student athletes superfluous amounts(football/basketball mainly), essentially removing amateur status in a roundabout way and creating a toxic locker room culture.
But why? Oh it’s the coaches fault for making all that money? Let’s be clear, the former student athletes now free agents were in charge of one person, themselves. The coaches are in charge of large groups and head coaches in charge of literally hundreds of people in an organization with tons of moving parts. These things are not the same. Your now 1.5 million dollar transfer portal QB is not likely qualified to coach pee wee league football, much less command the salary of a Nick Saban or Dabo Swinney who have earned it.
So I hope all you people who were cheering for player pay/free agency don’t like college football, and I hope you’ll stay a fan when instead of players being at Clemson or Bama they are playing for the minor league football team in Atlanta that feeds the NFL.
Maybe then people will go back to valuing academics.
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Re: Everyone now is talking about the brokenness
Jan 2, 2024, 8:45 PM
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I don’t know. I watched most of the NY6 and our bowl game and it still looked like college football to me. I get that the economics of the game are changing but I don’t see the toothpaste going back in the tube. When coaches can make $10 million plus per year and can come and go as they please, why shouldn’t the guys who make us actually want to watch get a piece of that action? I think that we need to really get efficient with NIL and embrace the new economics of the game or we will get left behind. Personally I want Clemson to keep competing at the very highest levels. It’s a new landscape and I don’t think it’s going back.
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It's not "going back" and no one with common sense is expecting that!
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Jan 2, 2024, 9:13 PM
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But there have to be some regulations put in place! Athletes virtually moving freely from team to team each year is not conducive to long term support of the fan's favorite teams.
Some folks try to pretend that the athletes weren't getting any compensation for their service prior to NIL, which is a ridiculous assumption! I expect when you consider the value of a scholarship, high level housing and nutrition, along with free personalized tuition, I would guess the average football scholarship athelete was already getting compensated to the tune of $100,000 per year or more! Pretty good for a high school grad, if you ask me!
Now, NIL is here to stay, but the combo of NIL and virtually unrestricted free agency (much less restrictive than in the NFL), is what's creating the current chaos in college football!
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What do we pay at Clemson
Jan 2, 2024, 9:41 PM
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I was told yesterday what the average player on CU's team makes in NIL money. Not talking about Ship or DJ or Cade who have special deals, but the "average" scholarship player. We know A&M's first NIL class was 30 million for roughly 30 players. Anyone have an educated estimate of what the Tiger players are making? I was doing a lot of listening and my source did not probe too far into the details past the number he was quoted. So I have a number but I don't know if it applies to all recruits past a certain year, all on the 2 deep, or a case by case basis. Anyone have any insight into what our 110 Society is paying the football team?
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Re: It's not "going back" and no one with common sense is expecting that!
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Totally agree that there needs to be some restrictions. Unlimited transfers = roster chaos. I just don’t know where those restrictions are going to come from as the courts seem intent on removing all restrictions on athletes. Maybe we get to collective bargaining at some point. Who knows? Definitely a transition period right now.
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We are in a transition period.
Jan 2, 2024, 10:43 PM
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I described it in a recent post as chaos, confusion and flux. It leads to frustration by the fans.
Nobody knows exactly how college football will look in a few years after we pass through this transition. But, we do know it will look different. Not necessarily better or worse, but definitely different.
Everyone, even the power brokers who make the decisions, agree that we cannot continue operating under the present conditions of NIL, portal, conference realignment, playoffs, bowls, etc.
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Re: Everyone now is talking about the brokenness
Jan 3, 2024, 9:19 AM
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I'm afraid this is the beginning of the end of all college sports. There are players who are not quite NFL material, yet making bank thru the NIL. Think of what Boulware could have made. So I think we will see them challenge the NCAA to increase their earning potential beyond the current 4/5 years...basically play as long as they want or as long as they are a "student" getting graduate degrees or even multiple degrees. In order to do that financially, football will have to breakaway to become its own league.. all TV revenue, bowl revenue, booster money will stay with football. So my fear is the "football funded" non-revenue sports will disappear (at least at the P5 schools)
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