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According to Joe Linardi the NCAA post season tournament selection
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Feb 10, 2024, 11:33 PM
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committee no longer considers conference records when making their selections. Since when did that start?
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Oculus Spirit [90820]
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Happened just about the time Clemson started playing better BB!
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Feb 10, 2024, 11:38 PM
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LOL.
Oh, FSU says hello after going undefeated in a major conference, in football.
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Re: Happened just about the time Clemson started playing better BB!
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Feb 11, 2024, 9:37 AM
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The selection committee for the made for TV/streaming four team FBS post season invitational tournament was correct to not extend an invitation to the Florida State Seminoles. This is settled law.
In basketball - while “conference record” is not a consideration metric - if a team is ina competitive conference and does well then they will be reflective in many of the metrics used. I’m not a bracketologist and this is the first time I’ve done any looking into what else but NET ratings is considered - came across this little viewed NCAA primer.
https://youtu.be/yZ83-O5Qnp8?si=YyU87HT1i08hYZvq
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Re: According to Joe Linardi the NCAA post season tournament selection
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Feb 10, 2024, 11:55 PM
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Just last year on Clemson’s behalf.
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Athletic Dir [871]
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Probably has something to do with uneven scheduling. Hard to really
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Feb 11, 2024, 8:29 AM
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tell how a conf season was without breaking the data down further (and they rely on data a lot in basketball) team by team.
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Well, we are fast approaching the time when two "Superconferences" will most
Feb 11, 2024, 8:33 AM
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likely contain half the teams in the country anyway. They are just getting ahead of the game by ignoring conference records.
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Re: According to Joe Linardi the NCAA post season tournament selection
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Feb 11, 2024, 8:35 AM
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Conference records cannot be manipulated to fit an agenda so they decided to discard this metric in favor of something more complicated which can be controlled without folks noticing
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Re: According to Joe Linardi the NCAA post season tournament selection
Feb 11, 2024, 10:14 AM
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Yea I would think overall strength or weakness of a conference, and your record in that conference would be huge.
But yet they give out numerous conference champs invites to schools that have no business in the NCAA’s.
I’m just not sold on today’s metrics. Probably because I do not understand them.
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This is great news for Clemson!***
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Feb 11, 2024, 8:35 AM
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Re: According to Joe Linardi the NCAA post season tournament selection
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Feb 11, 2024, 8:37 AM
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About the same time head-to-results ceased to matter at all.
* See Clemson vs. Nancy state last season
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All I know is they put on a full screen shot of him during our game
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Feb 11, 2024, 8:46 AM
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And it was the first time I wished I had a smaller TV.
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Re: All I know is they put on a full screen shot of him during our game
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Feb 11, 2024, 9:01 AM
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Lmao, i thought the same thing
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Oculus Spirit [83133]
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Much ado about nothing. They don't consider whether
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Feb 11, 2024, 8:50 AM
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you are 12-8 or 11-9, but they do consider each win and loss, which amounts to the same thing in the end.
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Re: According to Joe Linardi the NCAA post season tournament selection
Feb 11, 2024, 8:55 AM
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If they want to make the players pros by giving them salaries, then shouldn't the championship set-up be modeled after pro football? Wins and losses are all that matter.
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Re: According to Joe Linardi the NCAA post season tournament selection
Feb 11, 2024, 9:55 AM
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Maybe not but as of this morning 5 of the top 41 teams are from the ACC and 10 of the top 41 teams are from the Big 12. That just feeds on itself if most of the teams you play are in the Net top 41.
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Re: According to Joe Linardi the NCAA post season tournament selection
Feb 11, 2024, 10:19 AM
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If someone says every team in a conference is Top 25 then every win and loss is a positive for all of them. Every one of them could be over rated and it doesn't matter in the end.
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I guess hes saying in comparison to the past
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Feb 11, 2024, 10:33 AM
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When it seemed like that’s the only thing they would look at. They used to start with power conference teams and see who was .500 or better and work their way up and see which ones would be on the cut line and only then would they look at non conference
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Thats how we used to get in with sub .500 ACC records.
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Feb 11, 2024, 11:25 AM
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When Rick Barnes was here, we made the NCAA Tournament twice with 7-9 ACC records.
In 95-96, we were 7-9 in the ACC and finished 6th out of 9 teams in an ACC that had three ranked teams (#9 Wake, #13 Georgia Tech, and #25 North Carolina). We lost in the first round of the NCAAs as a 9 seed.
In 97-98, we were also 7-9 in the ACC and finished tied for 4th out of 9 teams in an ACC with three ranked teams (#1 UNC, #3 Duke, and #20 Maryland). We lost in the first round of the NCAAs as a 6 seed.
The ACC certainly had some good teams then, but was honestly a bit overrated much like the Big 12 and Big 10 are now. It wasn’t the gauntlet of 8 ranked ACC teams, each with 5 future NBA stars on their roster, like many of the revisionist historians here like to claim.
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