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“Owed” student loan debt relief???
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Jul 19, 2023, 6:33 PM
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White House press secretary says borrowers are “owed “ loan relief. Say what???
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Re: “Owed” student loan debt relief??? KJP = idiot
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Jul 19, 2023, 8:56 PM
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For a brief moment, I thought that KJP’s cuteness might make her a more pleasant Press Secretary than that exhausting ‘let’s circle back on that one’ Jen Psaki.
KJP is such an idiot that her cuteness isn’t enough. She is a first class idiot; yet another embarrassment to President Braindead’s tegime.
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yes, very embarrassing tegime.***
Jul 19, 2023, 9:27 PM
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Why aren’t liberals paying them off for people?***
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Jul 19, 2023, 9:27 PM
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Re: Why aren’t liberals paying them off for people?***
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Jul 20, 2023, 5:30 AM
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You have a good point. Democrats could just voluntarily send in more tax money to pay for all the free stuff they want. Oh wait, they need the taxes from the productive class. Never mind.
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Re: Why aren’t liberals paying them off for people?***
Jul 20, 2023, 7:11 AM
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> Democrats could just voluntarily send in more tax money to pay for all the free stuff they want. Oh wait, they need the taxes from the productive class.
You actually believe this don’t you.
It’s weird that big blue cities tend to be the hubs of innovation and ideas if tbey are so stupid and lazy. Guess you just don’t see all the POS’s living off the government in rural areas.
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Re: Why aren’t liberals paying them off for people?***
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Jul 20, 2023, 7:36 AM
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I thought you didn’t bash rural people? By the way, I live in a very rural community. I assure you no one around me is living off the government.
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Re: Why aren’t liberals paying them off for people?***
Jul 20, 2023, 9:21 AM
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> I thought you didn’t bash rural people?
Oh, I see the problem now. You don't know what bash means, apparently. I'm not bashing all rural people, I'm pointing out that rural places have the same type of problems that you are complaining about.
> By the way, I live in a very rural community. I assure you no one around me is living off the government.
Oh neat, so if I find a wealthy area in a large city where no one lives of the government, that means it doesn't happen.
You honestly don't think red/rural area have drug problems and feed off the government? Just because it's more spread out and not as visible as in a congested city doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
It's just laughable that you picture Republicans as the only hard-working Americans and carry everyone on their backs when red states use entitlements at a similar rate.
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Re: Why aren’t liberals paying them off for people?***
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Jul 20, 2023, 11:30 AM
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So, you're telling me that 7/10 of the most dependent states vote red and 8/10 of the least dependent states vote blue?
You're telling me that republican states receive more funding from the federal government and yet it's those lazy as liberals that we are all paying for?
No way.
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Re: Why aren’t liberals paying them off for people?***
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Jul 20, 2023, 5:48 PM
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Where did I go? I had work to do because I’m not a democrat. What I’m telling you is the people around me in my community are self reliant intelligent people.
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Re: Why aren’t liberals paying them off for people?***
Jul 20, 2023, 6:31 PM
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> What I’m telling you is the people around me in my community are self reliant intelligent people.
Are you purposely being obtuse? I didn't say that they weren't, I'm refuting your claim that:
> You have a good point. Democrats could just voluntarily send in more tax money to pay for all the free stuff they want. Oh wait, they need the taxes from the productive class. Never mind.
You keep making claims, as you just implied, that republicans work and democrats don't. Which is total bs.
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Re: Why aren’t liberals paying them off for people?***
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Jul 20, 2023, 7:09 PM
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Are you claiming there are more Republican voters on the government dime than democrats? Do more voters vote Republican because they believe the republicans will give them more free stuff? Not in the universe I live in.
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Re: Why aren’t liberals paying them off for people?***
Jul 20, 2023, 7:44 PM
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No, but you make it sound like it’s a giant difference.
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I’ve paid every loan that I’ve ever had…next.***
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Jul 20, 2023, 6:48 AM
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Furthermore, why don’t you also buy health insurance for a family, take in some illegals, and stop using fossil fuels. Those are all things you are asking me to do; so lead by example and stop being a hypocrite.
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Re: I’ve paid every loan that I’ve ever had…next.***
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Jul 20, 2023, 6:52 AM
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Me too. In full. So, I agree , next!
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Re: I’ve paid every loan that I’ve ever had…next.***
Jul 20, 2023, 9:26 AM
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Now you get it. There is always som idiot on hear that says, "If you want to lay mor taxes pay it." I just thew that out there for you so called conservatives. It was mockery.
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Re: I’ve paid every loan that I’ve ever had…next.***
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Jul 20, 2023, 3:20 PM
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Furthermore, why don’t you also buy health insurance for a family, take in some illegals, and stop using fossil fuels. Those are all things you are asking me to do; so lead by example and stop being a hypocrite.
Why don't you adopt a baby, since you don't believe in abortion rights.
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Re: Why aren’t liberals paying them off for people?***
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Jul 20, 2023, 8:21 AM
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Another question is why aren't these colleges and universities paying off student loans for them? Many of these institutions have endowments in excess of one BILLION dollars. What are they doing with all this cash that is more important than helping people that graduated with huge student debt and can't get a decent paying job? I'm sure every one of these colleges is 100% on board with having someone else (who probably didn't even go to college, much less their hallowed and equally overpriced institution) pay these bills instead. Forcing others to pay for their kooky world view is what modern leftists do best.
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Excellent point***
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Jul 20, 2023, 9:16 AM
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Re: Why aren’t liberals paying them off for people?***
Jul 20, 2023, 9:23 AM
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> Forcing others to pay for their kooky world view is what modern leftists do best.
Just so you're on record, your position is that only leftist politicians make policies that force people to pay for other's world-views?
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Re: Why aren’t liberals paying them off for people?***
Jul 20, 2023, 9:38 AM
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Colleges offer grant programs that lower the costs for some students. 85% of students get aid via loans or grants and grants are offered by the federal government, state government, and the institutions.
Do you not know this?
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The student loan debt problem is just another part of the
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Jul 20, 2023, 8:35 AM
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overall central planners grift to their friends in academia.
It is no secret that academia - particularly college academia - are a favored constituent of the left. That is why there is no discussion about the astronomical rise in the costs associated with getting a college education or how their price gouging and degree inflation has contributed greatly to this student loan debt problem. The college industry is simply given a "pass" but are the ones who have gotten rich off of the Government student loan grift.
The moment the Government got heavily involved in student loans the college industry saw the proverbial opening of the piggy bank. For years they and their politically connected friends have pushed the fallacy that everyone should be able to go to college. They created whole worthless degree programs in support of that effort so that all kids could participate in college - particularly those kids who in previous generations would not have made it into college because they lacked the academic chops for college. They essentially lowered the standards by creating pathways for previously unqualified students in an effort to turn college into grades 13 through 16 where everyone gets to go - most of which on borrowed money.
Once the student loan spigot was turned on to the point where anyone (academically qualified or not) could get a loan the college industry feasted like vultures and did everything they could to grab as much of that sweet Government backed student loan money as possible.
Now that the college loan game is getting exposed and that many of the former students who racked up tens of thousands in debt for degrees that produce little or no income after college, these same politicos and academics who pushed this scheme now want to move into phase 2 of the grift - have the taxpayer bail out these folks who should have never been allowed to wrack up this debt in the first place.
Like most things - the moment the Government took over the student loan business (92% of student loans are owned by the Federal Government) prices went up while the money flowed to the friends of the political elite (in this case - the college industry).
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Re: The student loan debt problem is just another part of the
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Jul 20, 2023, 10:06 AM
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If student loan "relief" had to be tied to administrative and faculty salary caps, this would no longer be popular with socialist politicians.
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Re: The student loan debt problem is just another part of the
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Jul 20, 2023, 4:22 PM
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There isn't a lender in this country that would give an 18 year old HS graduate, with little to no assets or income, a blank check to spend as much as they wanted, and if anyone did they would soon be under investigation for predatory lending. The notable exception is the current student loan lending programs that do exactly that and have the full support of the left and its university supporters which have no issue whatsoever selling these kids a bill of goods, leaving them with huge debts, and then expecting the rest of us to bail them out. Pro education my ###.
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Re: The student loan debt problem is just another part of the
Jul 20, 2023, 5:37 PM
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In numerous states, the biggest lobbyists (I.e., payola group) are the public universities of those states.
Thus, the cycle of corruption becomes permanent. States fund public universities; public universities in turn fund the politicians of the state.
Is it any wonder that public colleges and universities around the country have devolved into expensive entertainment venues that hardly ever flunk students out? It’s all good, though, since those awful taxpayers ultimately foot the bill.
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Re: “Owed” student loan debt relief???
Jul 20, 2023, 8:55 AM
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They are trying to help...but WHO are they trying to help?
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The '24 elections and their appeal to the youth vote...***
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Re: “Owed” student loan debt relief???
Jul 20, 2023, 9:25 AM
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Student Loan Debt should be covered by the same bankruptcy protections as any other debt.
Do that and the problem is solved.
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I CAN'T BELIEVE IT***
Jul 20, 2023, 9:26 AM
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Re: “Owed” student loan debt relief???
Jul 20, 2023, 9:33 AM
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Did you support that war in Iraq? I bet 90% of you so called conservatives on here did.
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Well... I stuck to my oath, did my duty, and went to Iraq in
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Jul 20, 2023, 11:26 AM
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2003 as I was ordered but I can tell you (as a conservative) I was far from in favor of our escalation of middle east instability by going after Saddam Hussein. In my private conversations with my wife I was very much a member of the "this is stupid" club but being a pawn in the military doesn't allow one to choose where the politicians send them. I know quite a lot of other "conservatives" who were with me in this thought process so don't assume that "90%" of conservatives wanted to do Iraq.
Nope - invading Iraq was mostly supported by the "war is good" for our friends/donors uni-party establishment political class that pushed this mistake on the American people/taxpayer and pimped out such publicly held "heroes" as Colin Powell to sell it which forever tarnished him in my eyes.
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90% is right
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Per Pew Research, polls at the time did show 93% support of the Iraq War from Republicans. They also showed 59% support from Democrats and 66% from Independents. Those were after the invasion started. The last polls prior aren't broken down by party, but showed 73% overall support, a similar number. It wasn't the first time I realized that most people are idiots.
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