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We ran 15 times for 42 yards and were down 17-0 and 27-7
Oct 21, 2013, 1:10 PM
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in the first half.
How can anyone say we we ran the ball "pretty well" and "abandoned the run too early?"
Offensively, we didn't do anything particularly well including running the football.
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I disagree...
Oct 21, 2013, 1:11 PM
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we turned the ball over fairly well
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All-TigerNet [11170]
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we threw into triple coverage awesomely well too
Oct 21, 2013, 1:12 PM
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along with missing open receivers and whiffing on tackles
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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we made loud noises well too
Oct 21, 2013, 1:13 PM
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just not a record
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110%er [5627]
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Tajh did a good job missing wide open receivers ..***
Oct 21, 2013, 1:12 PM
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All-TigerNet [10352]
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Re: We ran 15 times for 42 yards and were down 17-0 and 27-7
Oct 21, 2013, 1:13 PM
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Well when you run it one time on first down every 3 possessions they won't look that good. When a team is rushing 4 guys and playing coverage you keep running the ball and make them play the run. You don't simply heave it more hoping for a different result.
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Hall of Famer [22409]
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When you run it 15 times and gain 42 yards do you
Oct 21, 2013, 1:17 PM
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simply run it more and hope for a different result. And we don't have a home run hitter that could possibly pop a long run if given the ball enough.
We aren't going to beat a good team simply running the football. Especially when we are down by 3 scores. The coaches know that from watching practice and games.
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Re: When you run it 15 times and gain 42 yards do you
Oct 21, 2013, 1:22 PM
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2.8 ypc....Problem is, we would run for 5, pass for a 1st, run for a 1st then pas, pass, pass, punt....then do it all over again.....
We didn't run the ball enough....
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All-TigerNet [11161]
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You have to keep at least trying to run.
Oct 21, 2013, 1:14 PM
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If not, they drop everyone back like they did in this game. Boyd got a few 15+ yard runs because everyone was in coverage. We needed to exploit that more.
Down 17-7 is no time to abandon the run regardless of the YPC we are realizing on the field.
I'm no coach, this just just my opinion.
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We ran it 15 times in the 1st half and 26 times in the 2nd.
Oct 21, 2013, 1:21 PM
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We didn't abandon the run, but it was obvious we weren't going to catch them doing that most of the time.
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Re: We ran it 15 times in the 1st half and 26 times in the 2nd.
Oct 21, 2013, 1:23 PM
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So you're saying we went back to the run after we were blwon out? Great plan.
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I agree. But, people shouldn't point to YPC for the game
Oct 21, 2013, 1:31 PM
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and pretend that we ran the ball well when it mattered.
Our rushing yards per carry were skewed by our success running in the second half after the game was over. We could not consistently run the ball in the first half and we were turning it over and having to play catchup.
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All-In [30522]
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Will we play with
Oct 21, 2013, 1:16 PM
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Peters out?
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Re: We ran 15 times for 42 yards and were down 17-0 and 27-7
Oct 21, 2013, 1:16 PM
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Until they can prove someone other than Boyd can gain yardage on the ground opposing defenses are going ignore it and play the pass. Kind of like Bud Foster did in Blacksburg a few years back. Stacked the box and dared Proctor to throw. Everyone else followed suit. Just the opposite now.
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Re: We ran 15 times for 42 yards and were down 17-0 and 27-7
Oct 21, 2013, 1:21 PM
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That's about 3 ypc. That's what you want in the run game. We only ran it 15 times in the first half. You're proving our point.
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Hall of Famer [22409]
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3 yards per carry will end in a punt.
Oct 21, 2013, 1:23 PM
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Is this a joke?
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Re: 3 yards per carry will end in a punt.
Oct 21, 2013, 1:25 PM
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Yeah beacuse we never go for and pick up 4th and 1?....you must be the one kidding...
And you're assuming it's 3 straight runs every time. When you mix in passes with the running game you're gonna pick up that 1 yard. running the ball 3 ypc will open up the middle as the LB's cheat in.
We didn't run the ball enough. Once or twice per drive isn't going to do it. McDowell had 5.5 ypc and only 11 carries all game. FAIL
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Re: That's what I'm saying. Was the guy being serious?
Oct 21, 2013, 1:26 PM
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You obviously don't know football.
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Re: Sometimes people pick a side and stubbornly cling to it
Oct 21, 2013, 1:29 PM
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5.5 ypc 11 carries....nuff said
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Expert [1376]
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3 yards per carry is what you want???????
Oct 21, 2013, 1:24 PM
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Please tell me you're making jokes?
Rank…. Team…………. …. YPC
114 …. Georgia State …. 3.08
115 …. East Carolina …. 2.97
116 …. Wake Forest …. 2.95
117 …. North Carolina …. 2.92
118 …. California …. 2.9
118 …. Southern Mississippi …. 2.9
120 …. Purdue …. 2.68
121 …. Hawai'i …. 2.66
122 …. Oregon State …. 2.65
123 …. Miami (Ohio) …. 2.62
124 …. Connecticut …. 2.28
125 …. Florida International …. 2.02
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Re: 3 yards per carry is what you want???????
Oct 21, 2013, 1:28 PM
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Mixed in with a passing game yes. You assume we'd end with 3 ypc. You have build on the run game to open up other facets of your offense. That in turn will open up the run even more when passing the ball becomes more successfull.
I'm not going to argue with people who don't understand football...
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Hall of Famer [22409]
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The people you are arguing with know as much or more about
Oct 21, 2013, 1:35 PM
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football than you do.
The problem with your point is that the facts do not support it.
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Nuk, Ellington and Allen migt have helped ...
Oct 21, 2013, 1:23 PM
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These 3* and 4* played like 5*.
This year FSU's 5* on D played like 5* and we made way too many mistakes.
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All-TigerNet [14921]
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When you spot a team 17 points, you don't really get
Oct 21, 2013, 1:39 PM
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to try to establish the run.
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Re: We ran 15 times for 42 yards and were down 17-0 and 27-7
Oct 21, 2013, 1:44 PM
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Throwing the ball didn't work well either, but we kept it up.
Perhaps we should have gone with the strategy Cumberland used all those decades ago and just started punting on first down.
If you become one dimensional, you take whatever chance you might have and throw it out the window. See the orange bowl for example. We abandoned the run during that game after the fumble and that pathetic mountaineer defense clamped down for the rest of the game.
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