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Oculus Spirit [91324]
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Tucker Carlson exposed our corrupt media but also our Puppet Prez
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Feb 10, 2024, 12:02 AM
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at one sitting with Putin who for years was said, by lying Big Media, to be dying of cancer and a weakling of mind.
Turns out our President is the one dying of old age & sadly of Cognitive decline and thus is the weakling of mind.
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Lot o points [156283]
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Hey Bill..,,.I know Putin uses big words, speaks confidently, and is
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Feb 10, 2024, 7:28 AM
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Likely 20+ IQ points smarter than Biden, but don’t let that convince you he’s a good man.
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He didn't say anything about Putin being good, he stated that our media is bad.***
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Feb 10, 2024, 7:54 AM
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Im going off other posts he made as well***
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Feb 10, 2024, 8:03 AM
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Why is Putin your enemy?
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Feb 10, 2024, 9:45 PM
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He isn’t mine. The US government has done a lot more against me than Putin. Why, other than because the TV told you so, would you consider him an enemy?
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Re: Why is Putin your enemy?
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Feb 11, 2024, 7:18 AM
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If you feel this way, why on Earth aren't you migrating to Russia? It seems it would be paradise for you.
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Re: Why is Putin your enemy?
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Feb 12, 2024, 10:30 AM
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Putin isn’t our friend.
As for him being our enemy, when you consider how the USA screwed over Yeltsin led Russia after the Cold War had ended, then it is understandable that Putin views the USA as an enemy of Russia.
Our stupid foreign policies since the days of Bill Clinton have been the problem. We create enemies in places where none exist. Unfriendly V.Putin is a creature of our own making.
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All-In [42443]
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Oh, so he liked the U.S. back when...
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Feb 12, 2024, 10:32 AM
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They were the USSR and he was a KGB agent?
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Re: Oh, so he liked the U.S. back when...
Feb 12, 2024, 12:17 PM
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Back when the USSR was still intact, Putin was a (almost certainly) loyal member of the KGB, committed to the agenda of the USSR.
He was also an important person in post-USSR Russia in the years of 1991 through 2000; he assumed they presidency of the USSR in ~ 2000 and fairly quickly managed to take control of Russia’s bureaucracy. Shortly thereafter, he (in effect although not in formal title) became dictator.
A lot of ground was covered between 1991 and 2000. It became clear to smart and studious people that the USSR version was an obsolete ‘business’ model. Too much money spent on both defense and not a vibrant enough economy to pay for said military.
The historical ‘boom or bust’ model in which a militaristic country would, for a short period of time, bulk up its military and then ‘pay for’ that military be conquering another country (and subsequently exploiting the conquered country’s economy and resources to ‘pay itself back’) became obsolete with the advent of nuclear tipped intercontinental ballistic missiles + submarine based nuclear missiles. Remember that the USSR already had police control of both Hungary and Czechoslovakia when, in 1955 and 1968, respectively, those countries had their rebellions that USSR then quelled militarily. Also, remember that the ‘Warsaw Pact’ countries of Poland, Czechoslovakia, Rumania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Albania, and East Germany were not actually part of the USSR, whereas Belarus, some of N.E.Rumania, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia were fully absorbed into the USSR.
USSR’s economic exploitation of their Warsaw Pact ‘allies’ became increasingly less valuable as the economic power of the Warsaw Pact allies stayed stagnant, as opposed to the increasingly powerful economies of those European countries that the USSR did not control. The easiest to see example of this ‘controlled by USSR’ vs ‘not controlled by USSR’ comparison is East Germany vs West Germany. As if the late 1970’s, the disparity between E.Germany and W.Germany was obvious. By the late 1980’s, that disparity was enormous. One doesn’t have to be a ‘Putin lover’ to recognize that Putin is an exceptionally smart man. He was aware of the history of the Warsaw Pact allies and of their continuously decreasing cost-benefit usefulness to the USSR.
When combining the huge risk of war with NATO (which really means the USA) for attempting to conquer any of the former Warsaw Pact countries, and calculating the benefit from recapturing the economic output / economic potential from a Warsaw Pact country (with East Germany being an exception), it makes little sense for Russia to be aggressive. If a nobody like me recognizes this, then people in the know (or people who should be in the know) also recognize this. Putin surely recognizes this; thus, that part of his interview with T.Carlson is plausibly truthful.
Bsck to Putin as an enemy of the USA. Other than trade related rivalries, he has no rational reason to be a true enemy of America … except when the USA involves itself in matters which impair Russia’s own economic objectives. We (America) have involved ourselves in military activities that were designed to weaken Russia (Chechnya and Georgia jump out; our involvement in the conflict within the former Yugoslavian provinces in 1996 was none of our business). These activities, understandably, increased the negative perceptions that Putin had borne from back in his USSR days in the KGB. Thus, instead of doing things to diminish the pre-existing unfriendly sentiments about America, our actions served to reinforce those sentiments.
My apologies for the long answer, but while your question was simple, the answer (at least in this case) cannot be provided briefly.
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Lemme stop you right there.
Feb 12, 2024, 2:10 PM
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You said:
As for him being our enemy, when you consider how the USA screwed over Yeltsin led Russia after the Cold War had ended, then it is understandable that Putin views the USA as an enemy of Russia.
Which is a ridiculous statement because he was trained all his life that the U.S. was their enemy.
It doesn't require a pointless essay response. Your comment was silly and I noted it. Spare us the essay, and I didn't read one word of it.
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Re: Why is Putin your enemy?
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Feb 11, 2024, 11:45 AM
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“The TV told you so” Jesus can you rein in the smug even just a little? You think you’re so well informed, like you’re not influenced by the stupid #### you look at on twitter. Yeah no, I’m sure Jack Posobiec and Catturd are much better sources of straight journalism than news outlets that are actually held accountable for what they report.
How about suppressing, imprisoning, and murdering political opposition? That a good enough reason to dislike him? How about being an actual warmonger, murdering civilians in their apartment buildings in the capital city of one of our allies? That enough of a reason? How about being a KGB agent during the Cold War? Think he was a friend of Americans? How about sitting atop a country for 23 years now, with an actual oligarchy of “globalist elites”? How about allying himself with China, N Korea, and Iran?
Are those good enough reasons, or is it just what the TV told me?
“US government has done a lot more against me,” boooooo hoooo, you live in a country that makes you pay taxes, wow you’re so oppressed, your life must be terrible. Whiny contrarian edgelord.
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"News outlets that are held accountable for what they report"...? BS premise.***
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Feb 11, 2024, 1:08 PM
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Re: "News outlets that are held accountable for what they report"...? BS premise.***
Feb 11, 2024, 1:32 PM
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I’m sorry you feel that way, but your feelings don’t change reality
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Riiiight... Maybe you can just 'fact check' me and that'll satisfy your delusion
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Feb 11, 2024, 11:42 PM
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Bernays would be proud of your confirmation.
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Orange Blooded [2135]
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This is easy....
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Feb 11, 2024, 3:56 PM
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Putin is an enemy of Democracy. Period. And we, and our friends in Europe, are an alliance of Democracies. IF you believe in Democracy, then Putin is your enemy. It's that simple.
The EU Nations & NATO are our friends. And he is their enemy, via the way he treats his own citizens and how he attacks sovereign nations that are no threat to him.
If you consider the American Government a bigger problem than Putin, then just leave the country and immigrate to Putin's Hermit Kingdom. There is no freedom of speech or assembly in that country. THere is no freedom of the press, and no freedom to bear arms either. If you think he's less of a problem to you than the American government, just immigrate to Russia.
It's amazing how things have shifted in this country, where the GOP and the right-wing in general is now the unabashed home to pro-Authoritarians.
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Re: This is easy....
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Feb 12, 2024, 10:43 AM
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The USA is becoming an enemy of democracy more and more each day.
Russia is an autocracy. So is Saudi Arabia. So is Egypt. Ukraine is, in a superficial sense, a democracy; in practice, it has become an autocracy.
Simply being an autocracy does not make a foreign country an enemy of the USA.
Recommendation: Spend the 2 hours 10 minutes to listen carefully to the T.Carlson / Putin interview. You, as a disciplined guy, are not at risk of being propagandized into becoming ‘an agent of Putin.’
(*). In another week or two, I’ll initiate a post in which those parts of Putin’s statements are (a) lies of commission -&- (b) lies of omission. There are many things which Putin said that U believe to be true.
Take the Pepsi challenge. Listen for yourself, think about it a little bit, and then share with us the aspects which you believe to be true and those which you believe to be false.
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Re: Why is Putin your enemy?
Feb 11, 2024, 11:59 PM
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Ok Chas Tom, that’s about the most gullible and un American thing I’ve head in a while.
Good luck.
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Because he's a former KGB communist who...
Feb 12, 2024, 8:42 AM
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Wants to restore the Soviet Union back to its former state.
Why does this need to be spelled out to you?
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Re: Because he's a former KGB communist who...
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Feb 12, 2024, 10:46 AM
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You’re a few light years away from understanding how Russia has changed from desiring to be the former USSR under Brezhnev and his predecessors vs what Russia wants to be today. Really, you’re not remotely close.
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Re: Because he's a former KGB communist who...
Feb 12, 2024, 11:02 AM
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Putin compared himself to Peter the Great and expressed desire to restore the Russian empire. So yeah, we can say it's even worse than the Soviet dream. He wants conquest of European states... and y'all admire this man.
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Orange Blooded [2135]
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Tucker is a pro-Putin, pro-Russia stage prop.*
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Feb 11, 2024, 10:34 AM
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Biden is a pro-Cabal, pro Uni-Party stage prop. (and a demented one at that)***
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Feb 11, 2024, 1:10 PM
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Re: Biden is a pro-Cabal, pro Uni-Party stage prop. (and a demented one at that)***
Feb 11, 2024, 4:11 PM
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None of which exists, but keep going on. Youre all Q'd out. Nuts.
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Get back in your cavern. As to 'Q', never been there and don't have a clue.
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Feb 11, 2024, 11:50 PM
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Just like nobody on this site will tell me what to think, neither will anybody else on ANY site.
My beliefs are mine. Sometimes I share a glimpse, sometimes I debate. EVERYTIME it's me, not some 'Q' or otherwise.
Chump axx hit&run trolls like you are a dime a dozen.
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Re: Get back in your cavern. As to 'Q', never been there and don't have a clue.
Feb 12, 2024, 12:00 AM
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If ignoring facts is the definition of ignorance you are.
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Re: Get back in your cavern. As to 'Q', never been there and don't have a clue.
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Feb 12, 2024, 10:49 AM
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You don’t know the facts. Memorizing the messaging from MSNBC is not a productive approach for learning anything other than Democrat party propaganda.
Propaganda does not equal Facts.
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Oculus Spirit [81388]
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Lutz..Like you aren't guilty of it.
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Feb 12, 2024, 11:14 AM
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I doubt you could pick Nikki Haley out of a lineup, but you can parrot everything Trump has said about her.
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Re: Lutz..Like you aren't guilty of it.
Feb 12, 2024, 1:38 PM
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Nikki is easy to pick out.
Go to any group of self-described brown skinned women, and pick out the one with white skin.
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Says the guy that follows me around... Get off my sack.***
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Feb 12, 2024, 12:56 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81388]
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Me mocking you isn't following you around.
Feb 12, 2024, 10:40 AM
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You post something weird and unwanted in almost every thread. Hell, avoiding you is difficult.
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Obviously, individuality scares you. Get back to your safe circle.***
Feb 12, 2024, 11:05 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81388]
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You have a very high opinion of yourself.
Feb 12, 2024, 11:17 AM
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I guess if you don't, nobody else will.
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Sooo bothered... Easy now.***
Feb 12, 2024, 12:20 PM
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Carlson is a pro-Russia stooge....
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Feb 11, 2024, 11:54 AM
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He has admitted on air that he's rooting for Russia over Ukraine.
What's sad is that people think Carlson is anything but an opportunist and right-wing provocateur.
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Re: Tucker Carlson exposed our corrupt media but also our Puppet Prez
Feb 11, 2024, 4:12 PM
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Tucker exposed himself for being an awful human being who sides with Putin. Nothing more and nothing less.
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Re: Tucker Carlson exposed our corrupt media but also our Puppet Prez
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Feb 11, 2024, 11:57 PM
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Tucker is an idiot.
Putin is a horrible human being.
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^^^ Three new members for the circle jerk crew ^^^ Must be tasty.***
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Feb 12, 2024, 12:00 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81388]
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RA'd***
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Feb 12, 2024, 12:32 AM
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Hall of Famer [24997]
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Do that. I'm gonna get them to pull some of your "anti-..." remarks. Let's
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Feb 12, 2024, 12:55 AM
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see how that plays out.
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Oculus Spirit [81388]
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Qell, since you said that...
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Feb 12, 2024, 1:03 AM
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Do whatever you need to do.
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