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Trotter & Shipley
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Apr 26, 2024, 11:28 PM
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Being disrespected the most, huh? This is unreal.
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Both could've likely used another year to bolster resumes
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Apr 26, 2024, 11:31 PM
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But I honestly can't blame them for getting away from what college football has become
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Theres nothing more Trotter could have shown in another year
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Apr 26, 2024, 11:53 PM
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And RBs have a very short shelf life
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They were getting away from the gamble of coming back to Clemson
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Apr 27, 2024, 6:17 AM
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and perhaps having another 3 loss or more season. That is likely why they jumped now. This coaching staff needs to turn this ship around this year and stop this downward trend. Else recruits will not see Clemson as a place to go to get to NFL or at least get drafted high. The NFL draft is the real report card on the health of your program. Opposing teams will tout their NFL draft results in recruiting. What will Clemson’s response be? The #s don’t lie.
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Re: They were getting away from the gamble of coming back to Clemson
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Apr 27, 2024, 6:26 AM
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and perhaps having another 3 loss or more season. That is likely why they jumped now. This coaching staff needs to turn this ship around this year and stop this downward trend. Else recruits will not see Clemson as a place to go to get to NFL or at least get drafted high. The NFL draft is the real report card on the health of your program. Opposing teams will tout their NFL draft results in recruiting. What will Clemson’s response be? The #s don’t lie.
Your premise is the NFL won’t draft guys from college teams with three or more losses? Your coots had a first rounder which dispels your theory
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No, my premise is the more you can play into the postseason
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Apr 27, 2024, 7:10 AM
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The better your exposure leading into the NFL draft season. 3+ losses typically misses conf champ game and playoffs… you might get a meaningless bowl game though that no one really watches except the team’s fans. And yes, some players can stand out enough on their own to still be a 1st round pick even if on a crappy team, ut chances are higher of that if you have the SEC hype machine behind you.
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You dont understand NFL scouting at all. If youre good
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Apr 27, 2024, 7:36 AM
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they will find you.
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Well that is even more damning!***
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Apr 27, 2024, 11:39 AM
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Re: No, my premise is the more you can play into the postseason
Apr 27, 2024, 9:03 AM
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Hmm.. the guy drafted #1 overall didn't even play in his team's bowl. If you have played 3-4 years Scouts have plenty of film on you; an extra couple of games won't matter. Also, Washington had 3 first rounders this year, Ohio State only one. Is Washington a better program than %uckeyes now?
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just pointing out reality of situation***
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Apr 27, 2024, 7:11 AM
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Hippy?
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Apr 27, 2024, 11:38 AM
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😂
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Re: Trotter & Shipley
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Apr 26, 2024, 11:38 PM
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I’m sure I’ll catch heat for this, but Shipley wasn’t going tonight. He’ll go tomorrow, which has always been my prediction. Somewhere in the 5th is my guess. I’ve got nothing against him, just calling it how it is.
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Re: Trotter & Shipley
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Apr 26, 2024, 11:42 PM
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Ship will be fortunate to be a second team kinda guy... IMO. Hope he'll be better than what I think.
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I hope he improves in the NFL.
Apr 27, 2024, 9:56 AM
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I wish nothing but the best for Ship, I really do. But from what I've seen, I don't think he makes a big impact in the NFL. KR might be the area where he could contribute. He's tuff and decent straight line speed.
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Re: Trotter & Shipley
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Apr 26, 2024, 11:42 PM
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I thought Trotter had a 2nd round projection so don't understand him falling this far.
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Re: Trotter & Shipley
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Apr 26, 2024, 11:50 PM
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If everybody they gave a 2nd round projection to went in the 2nd round it would last 3 days.
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There arent this many LBs better than Trotter
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Apr 26, 2024, 11:52 PM
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He’s gonna make a lot of teams looks stupid
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Re: Trotter & Shipley
Apr 26, 2024, 11:53 PM
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He's undersized and lacks the athleticism to close that gap. It's not all that surprising really. He's been production over traits which is always prone to dropping come draft time.
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Re: Trotter & Shipley
Apr 26, 2024, 11:57 PM
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To paraphrase Michael Penix Jr all you need to know about him you can learn from his EKG
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Re: Trotter & Shipley
Apr 27, 2024, 10:47 PM
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Your EKG can't cover a slot receiver in spare. His athletic limitations were always going to drop him.
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Re: Trotter & Shipley
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Apr 27, 2024, 7:18 AM
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A lot of projections had him 3rd round. So he can't be too surprised.
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Disrespected???
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Apr 26, 2024, 11:57 PM
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Are you one of the people who swore on here that Shipley would go first round?
He’s likely 4th round at best and have been saying that for months.
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Don't think anyone said he was going first round
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Apr 27, 2024, 12:16 AM
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But we try to be supportive (while realistic) and hope for the best and all that cause that's what fans do.
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It was said by several in here.***
Apr 27, 2024, 9:08 AM
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All right Peeps
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Apr 27, 2024, 12:15 AM
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Said before the draft, some team(s) would get a bargain drafting Tyler Davis and Jeremiah Trotter, Jr. Their play on the field greatly exceeds their measurables. They both make teams and earn playing time.
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They play on opposite sides of the same coin..
Apr 27, 2024, 1:05 AM
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RB is an undervalued position and Trotter plays LB, the defense's countermeasure to the RB-
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They aren't being disrespected - that's a little dramatic, but the media guys
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Apr 27, 2024, 7:12 AM
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like to use that type of verbiage - I think they are missing on Trotter, but ship is not a NFL talent, IMO.
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Not sure why you anticipated Shipley going this high,
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Apr 27, 2024, 7:35 AM
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if at all.
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Re: Trotter & Shipley
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Apr 27, 2024, 8:17 AM
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Trotter has a lot of good things to offer however I believe his 40 time hurt him a little
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Re: Trotter & Shipley
Apr 27, 2024, 8:23 AM
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These guys are late rounders for sure. Trotter will get good advice and show up early and stay late…take any special teams opportunity that he can sniff out. Shipley has some growing up to do and needs to figure out his true value…Im afraid he will be out of the league before the light bulb turns on. I do wish all of them the best.
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Re: Trotter & Shipley
Apr 27, 2024, 8:27 AM
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True, Trotter made the right call coming out. His limitations are speed and cover ability, don't see him being able to improve that plus the possibility of injury should he return. Also, him leaving most likely allowed us to get Sammy Brown so that's a good thing
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Re: Trotter & Shipley
Apr 27, 2024, 8:23 AM
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Not surprised Shipley is still available, but am surprised Trotter didn't go on Day 2.
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Re: Trotter & Shipley
Apr 27, 2024, 8:31 AM
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I don't know why anyone is surprised on Trotter...He's 6 ft and 230 ish LBs on a good day...Completely undersized for a league that drools over measurables and projectability.
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Re: Trotter & Shipley
Apr 27, 2024, 9:27 AM
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Neither of them play high value positions in the NFL.
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You funny person. You make laugh.***
Apr 27, 2024, 9:39 AM
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Re: Trotter & Shipley
Apr 27, 2024, 9:46 AM
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Someone is going to get a baller in Trotter.......and at Bargain Basement prices.
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