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TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 5:57 PM
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 6:36 PM
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At his point, I believe DW. Looks like the plaintiffs are trying to obtain free money. Unfortunately,in the short term, this will hurt DW's outstanding reputation.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 6:49 PM
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It's almost like a team desperate to keep their star player from being traded is willing to do almost anything to keep him from leaving........
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 7:21 PM
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 7:27 PM
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Nice try but there is zero chance...zero...that you are going to explain the illogic of the Texans orchestrating this to some people. I've been entertained by opinions like this for a week.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 8:56 PM
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Once again, it is pretty friggin simple. The NFL is now involved. They dont have to wait for a court ruling. If they determine that Deshaun has breached the ethics part of his contract, and it is up to them to determine what ethics includes, they can declare the contract void. Texans no longer have to pay him.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 10:09 PM
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And so then Texans lose any trade value he had. How does that square with good business for the Texans?
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 24, 2021, 8:05 AM
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They dont have to pay him. Cut ties and losses. Not the first time a team has dropped a player. Do they get value, no, but they dont have to pay the contract money. They have already claimed a new QB from the Chargers. The texans tried and couldnt get what they wanted for value, so they are cutting ties. The claims against him are either false or they are true. His character, up to this point, has never been in question. He has donated large sums of money to Houston and others. This doesnt fit his character. Of course, money and fame has ruined many in higher places. If the claims are false, the texans are trying to get out of the contract.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 24, 2021, 8:30 AM
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Can you think of a time in the history of any sport where a professional organization, in an attempt to cut a player and recoup money, has orchestrated something like this? Sure players get cut. A player of this caliber....like this? You really believe executives of an NFL team sat down and came up with this scenario, found a lawyer to advance it, then found women, over 20 now from multiple states, to potentially destroy their reputations for whatever little money they are likely to see from this?
Or, do you think it's more likely DW likes "special" massages, someone found out about it, and decided to exploit it for money?
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 24, 2021, 9:30 AM
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If they traded him they would also not have to pay the contract, and they would also get draft picks which would likely include multiple 1st round picks. So why would they prefer to simply cut him then?
And the quarterback you mentioned, Tyrod Taylor? He's been a backup for the past 3 years, and for the majority of his 10 years in the league. They didn't sign him to replace Watson, they signed him to be a backup. They also acquired Ryan Finley who is even less likely to be meant as a long term starting QB.
But yeah ok, they decided to frame Watson for hiring a reported 20 or so women for massages including flying some of them in from other states to say that Watson tried to force himself on them or whatever, and they did this because they wanted to get out of the contract he has without getting anything in return instead of getting out of the contract by trading him and getting a lot back. As part of this master plan they picked up two career backup quarterbacks because no other team in the league has any other quarterbacks except for their starter.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 25, 2021, 12:51 AM
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Yep. That pretty much explains the Texans. Im glad you finally figured it out. Happy i was able to help you see the big picture.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 9:02 PM
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They are desperate to keep him, as evidenced by their actions so far. That entire organization is a dumpster fire. They shot themselves in the foot when they declined to even talk to other teams about the massive packages that were being put together. Illogical? Yeah. Would it surprise me in the least if they were trying to ruin Deshaun's character? Nope.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 8:55 PM
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Other than drafting DW4 name one time the Texans has done anything that makes sense.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 24, 2021, 8:29 AM
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Won Division 6 times. Last time with DW4 in 2019. They have problems for sure! Their team President used to be a Clemson grad, pretty successful building the team. They Drafted Andre Johnson, JJ Watt, Hopkins, Clowney, and released them when it was time (for business). Kubiac or O’Brien could not win in playoffs. Fired the both after they cratered.
The Texans are not trying to damage DW4. It is all about the money. I believe DW4 DW4 was stupid to put himself in the situation to let this happen. He will learn an expensive lesson. He was too trusting of the wrong people! They want his money. He will play for the Texans in 2021, no other team will touch him now.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 9:00 PM
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First, logic isn't exactly the Texans strong suit, or they'd have never been in the position they are in now (trading away some of their best players, firing their coach midseason, reneging on the deal with Deshaun, etc). But by all accounts, they want to keep him; they could have gotten a MASSIVE deal for him but wouldn't even talk to interested teams.
Second, a week ago the biggest story was "where will Deshaun land". Who wants him now? Assuming this is all ginned-up BS, can his lawyer get rid of everything in time for him to trade elsewhere? Or does this back him into a corner *even if the allegations are false*.
I'm not saying the texans orchestrated it, but it sure is convenient timing. Everything about this lawsuit is suspect.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 24, 2021, 8:15 AM
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The most logical explanation is the trade situation is why the plaintiffs decided to launch this shake down now while DW4 is most vulnerable and willing to chef the claims as expeditiously as possible.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 24, 2021, 2:48 PM
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I thought about this too. But when I actually think about it, it doesn't make sense.
They don't have to trade him nor do they have to do something to make him stay. If they don't want to trade him, they don't have to. Now, of course, he can choose not to play. But they still wouldn't have to trade him.
Edit: I also believe Deshaun.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 6:42 PM
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I don't know what I expected to hear on this today, but this sounds both better & worse, in different ways. But between the NFL investigation & both sides of this civil case, I'm optimistic we'll find the answers soon enough to move forward. I still believe DW will play ball outright, but I can't wait 'til all of this is over.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 24, 2021, 8:23 AM
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I don't know what I expected to hear on this today, but this sounds both better & worse, in different ways. But between the NFL investigation & both sides of this civil case, I'm optimistic we'll find the answers soon enough to move forward. I still believe DW will play ball outright, but I can't wait 'til all of this is over.
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if they really have evidence
Mar 23, 2021, 6:59 PM
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of the one woman trying to blackmail him, then you may as well throw the rest of the cases out of the window.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 7:00 PM
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I'll say it again: Buzzbee is a lowlife ambulance chaser, and this has come across as a smear job from Minute 1. A lot of those individual complaints, if you read them on their own merits were like, wut? "I came. I gave Deshaun a message. Deshaun wore a skimpy towel. I felt uncomfortable."
It's like: honey, you're suing over this?
A lot of those "complaints" are going to get tossed right back out of court with extreme irritation by the judge in about 30 seconds. But that's the whole point. They're going to get into court...and more to the point, they're going to get into the press...the overwhelming sense I'm getting, here, is this is Buzzbee creating much of a muchness, the illusion that there's a there there, and creating a pile-on with the idea of bullying Deshaun right off the pot before he even realized Buzzbee was coming. Classic blitz attack, convict him in the court of public opinion before anyhing even reaches the courtroom.
But I am just highly dubious that anything legit originates as a demand for a six-figure settlement, and even more so that truth originates from a guy like Buzzbee and not Deshaun. The guy is pond scum. Deshaun's always exuded class.
I just do not buy it, never have, and will continue to say so, until Buzzbee shows something that looks even remotely authentic. He hasn't at all, yet. In fact the one text message he did show actually looked like the exact opposite of proof, at least for the plaintiff, anyhow.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 7:35 PM
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You need to be exceedingly careful. Calling a lawyer an ambulance chaser in a public setting can get you sued, successfully.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 8:18 PM
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Sincerest apologies. Buzzbee is a lawyer with a lengthy history of, shall we say, opportunistic litigation. He made a ton of money off the Deepwater Horizon oil spill incident, if that gives you any indication. That's his usual kind of jazz.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 9:07 PM
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Something something first amendment something something. Our stated opinions on this tiny corner of the internet amount to precisely jack ####.
More to the point, his history indicates he is an ambulance chaser.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 8:23 PM
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Just seems so crappy that a defense attorney can say "you sexually assaulted these 16 Jane Does but you dont get to actually know who your accusers are to try to prove they are lying through their gold digging teeth" and it be perfectly acceptable. How can he have the right to face his accusers if he doesnt know who they are? All this just smells too much like a fish market. Cant wait til DW4 can get the heck out of Houston!!
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 8:23 PM
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Just seems so crappy that a defense attorney can say "you sexually assaulted these 16 Jane Does but you dont get to actually know who your accusers are to try to prove they are lying through their gold digging teeth" and it be perfectly acceptable. How can he have the right to face his accusers if he doesnt know who they are? All this just smells too much like a fish market. Cant wait til DW4 can get the heck out of Houston!!
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 8:23 PM
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Just seems so crappy that a defense attorney can say "you sexually assaulted these 16 Jane Does but you dont get to actually know who your accusers are to try to prove they are lying through their gold digging teeth" and it be perfectly acceptable. How can he have the right to face his accusers if he doesnt know who they are? All this just smells too much like a fish market. Cant wait til DW4 can get the heck out of Houston!!
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You can say that again.
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Sounds like Deshaun picked a good lawyer at least***
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Re: Sounds like Deshaun picked a good lawyer at least***
Mar 24, 2021, 4:08 AM
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Yeah Rusty Hardin is one of the best in the business. For example, he successfully defended Roger Clemens against obstruction of justice and perjury charges in the Congressional investigation on steroid use by MLB players, when I and everyone else on the planet pretty much know that Clemens took steroids. I can't believe he's still practicing law though, the dude is like 80 years old.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson's lawyer releases statement on sexual assault allegations
Mar 23, 2021, 10:53 PM
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It's possible for a few things to be true at the same time. The Texans are inept at managing players, but to think this is an organizational conspiracy is farfetched; Buzbee is probably shady AF; and Deshaun could have done some or all of this. There were no allegations following him out of college, and this number of women makes it seem like Deshaun was doing nothing but exhaustively seeking out sexual massages -- I find that suspect. But just because some of the women may be lying does not mean they all are.
We all think the world of Deshaun, but we don't know what he's like in private. We don't know.
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It eventually floats to the top
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Tony Busbee is a neighbor to McNair the CEO of Houston Texans. Of course, Busbee doesn't know him.
"I need to dispel some silly rumors,” Buzbee said. “Yes, I live on River Oaks Boulevard and I live near the McNair family. I don’t know the McNair family. I wouldn’t recognize Cal or Hal or whatever his name is, if I saw him on the street. This case has nothing to do with the Texans, has nothing to do with free agency. The timing? I don’t know anything about that silliness and frankly don’t care about it. The Texans are not a team that I follow. This case is about brave women who are willing to step forward knowing that they will be criticized and ostracized and we should all get behind them, applaud them for their bravery and support them.”
Also, Busbee is running for mayor. Imagine that. Someone recently robbed Busby (guess that was DeShaun
HOUSTON — "Police have arrested three suspected gang members in the February burglary of Tony Buzbee's home, the Houston mayoral candidate says."
Buzbee posted on Facebook late Thursday that the items stolen from his home, which have an estimated value of more than $5 million, are still missing. How many people go on Facebook to share what $5 million of stuff was robbed?
So NEIGHBOR HOUSTON CEO MAYORAL CANDIDATE $5 MILLION OF HIS PROPERTY(MAYBE?) MISSING. How many attorneys have so much stuff that some guys break in and get away with $5 million? Lots of money-yes. 5 million worth of personal property thieves can get in and out of his house?
Perhaps DeShaun should launch a counter-suit. There's always a money trail somewhere.
How many people, other than low lifes, keep text messages that they just happen to have handy for a lawsuit? Why would you keep them if not for the fact that it was setup.
What part of this does not scream "Setup"?
I wish people like him had to get a real job instead of being a parasite on others. I hope DeShauns attorney is top notch.
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Busbee = #### sack***
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DW4 should announce retirement and fight back hard
Mar 24, 2021, 9:56 AM
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He needs to take an unconventional tact with this. Send a message to the Texans and the accusers and the accusing lawyer. This is no longer a game. This is for keeps.
Defamation of character that ruins a multimillion a year career warrants a lot of counter lawsuit $$ to be lobbed their way. Damages to be awarded to DW4 in that countersuit should sober them up real quick.
Then once settled, put yourself back on the market to play.
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Re: DW4 should announce retirement and fight back hard
Mar 24, 2021, 10:00 AM
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That all sound great, until he puts himself back on the market, at which time he realizes the Texans still hold his rights.
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Only for so long... and they will have moved on***
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Re: Only for so long... and they will have moved on***
Mar 24, 2021, 4:11 PM
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They own his rights for the next 4 years. You really think DW wants to sit during the prime of career, all while losing over 100mil?
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