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SEC/Big XII deal is perfect negotiating chip.
May 19, 2012, 12:52 AM
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Really got to hand it to Slive.
What he and the Big XII have done is essentially counter the B1G and Pac-12's Rose Bowl out, wherein if the other conferences try and force a conference champ-only scenario on the pending 4-team playoff, the SEC and Big XII both can simply walk away and take the ball with them. It's simply an insurance policy against a conference champ only proposal that the other leagues may try to force on the proceedings, that they can now say "no" to with little to no repurcussions. So what if they're not in the BCS following. Without the SEC and Big XII champions involved it wouldn't amount to anything.
On the flip side, the B1G and Pac-12 also have the Rose Bowl as an alternative, leaving the BCS dead in the water if those two leagues opt for that route. This allows the SEC and Big XII both to carry equal weight when the playoff discussions resume next month.
If a 4-team playoff comes to fruition, and there's no guarantee that it will, it's not going to come down to those four conferences - it's going to be the top 4 teams period with maybe a pool of top 5 or 6 teams with an edge to a conference champion that is among them. However, this new SEC/Big XII game now gives both conferences veto power over any proposal that doesn't suit them, especially the champions only scenario.
To be honest, I kind of miss the pre-BCS days when there were several games going on with national championship implications. Now it's one game that invariably screws a worthy team out of the equation, with the rest of the bowls simply window dressing and lacking national interest.
This isn't the end of the world, or the ACC. It's a 5-year deal (why does that number keep popping up) that creates critical leverage for those two leagues heading into BCS talks, that very effectively shuts the "conference champions only" talk of the Swoffords up for good.
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Or, to stop all this flipping conference silliness....
May 19, 2012, 1:03 AM
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They merely implement a true playoff system where the winners of each conference play in a tournament to determine the National Champion. This takes ALL the incentive out jumping to a conference because of "rankings" .... if anything, it might incentivise teams to jump to a WEAKER conference, since the winner goes to the tournament. Use the FCS model to see how it would work.
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There's no way a playoff approach is going to be more than
May 19, 2012, 1:14 AM
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4 teams to start, and that's going to run a 5 to 7-year cycle first before anything changes with it. It does constitute a bit of a sea change in college football even at that number, and they're going to take it very slow, which is evidenced over the last 15 years.
Conference champs only would be a mistake and take away from the final 4 field. However, not taking a conference championship into consideration when placing the 4 teams would also be a mistake. There's a healthy mix involving the top 5 or 6 teams that makes the most sense, which helps maintain the "sanctity of the regular season" argument as well as balancing perceived conference strengths by giving an actual conference winner, who is also a top 5-6 team, the benefit of the doubt over a non-winner.
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With a Tournament System...
May 19, 2012, 11:22 AM
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There would be 16 teams ... 12 conference winners (if my count is right) + 4 at large. "Rankings" could be used to determine the at large, the smorgasbord of Bowls in place now could be used to host the playoffs .... 11 game regular season, no "cupcake" games ....
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Re: With a Tournament System...
May 19, 2012, 11:36 AM
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Why would the PAC12, BIG10, BIG12, and SEC schools want that?
They have locked up college football. Why would they want to share it with anyone else?
You can think up ideas for a "fairer" system, but the powers that be already found one that they like. It gives them the power and money.
ACC isn't going to the playoff. They can form some deal with the Big East, CUSA, and WAC/MWC to create a playoff jr.
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Re: With a Tournament System...
May 19, 2012, 11:40 AM
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We don't know that .... they do what they do BECAUSE of the system CURRENTLY in place. A tournament WILL generate MUCH more interest and MONEY. They would be happy with an NCAA "Basketball Type" of Tournament. Football's version would just start with the "Sweet 16".
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Re: SEC/Big XII deal is perfect negotiating chip.
May 19, 2012, 11:38 AM
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I think they just Divy up the ACC football schools amongst the SEC and Big XII so each conference has 16 teams. At that point your pretty much where the NFL is at (4 team divisions, 16 team conferences). then the SEC v Big XII game would be for the southern football championship. B1G and Pac-16 could do they same thing, winners play for the Naty.
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Re: SEC/Big XII deal is perfect negotiating chip.
May 19, 2012, 11:43 AM
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again...why would they want to do that?
The current 48 schools (14 SEC, 10 Big12, 12 Big10, and 12 PAC12) have it locked up.
Why let someone else into the party unless they are bring something you want? In this case money!
Unless a school can add say $30+ million a year to the TV/Bowl/Media contracts, then it is a no go. Since you have to add two at a time, then the pair needs to be worth north of $60 million a year.
There aren't to many pairs worth that.
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Your banal washed up coot drivel is tiresome.
May 19, 2012, 11:53 AM
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And your weird Clemson fetish is also hard to understand considering your handle.
Coots are going to hate what's in the pipeline. Keep crowing though, it'll just make it that much sweeter.
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Re: SEC/Big XII deal is perfect negotiating chip.
May 19, 2012, 11:46 AM
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if they did this it also wouldn't be that difficult to have a mandatory cross-conference game for each team. USC/Clem, Gatech, UGA, FSU/UF, A&M/UT, it wouldn't be hard to make up some good new rivalries either (Oklahoma/Alabama, Arkansas/TCU) and then just throw the ###### teams together like Kansas/Ole Miss, Kstate/Miss State
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