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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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You are EXACTLY correct.!!!
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Aug 27, 2023, 9:45 AM
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I’ve never lived in an air conditioned house in my 82 years
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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The world has changed temperatures since the beginning of time. Don't let someone get away with blaming it on us. It's very selfish to feel you have been the culprit. The world is greater than any of us. Look at all the changes that have happened over the years. It has made no difference what we were doing . . it changes.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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I understand what you are talking about. But soon they will come after your air conditioner and say it is causing global warming. They are going after our ceiling fans, too.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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That is why you never give an inch to tyrants. That is why you never trade liberty for perceived safety. That is why we must oust the Communists that are in control.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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I'm dying to know who down voted this....
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Tigernet is full of leftists. Just go over to The Lounge.
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Re: Number One cause for
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Let's be honest; a government full of communists and tyrants will never willingly give up power.
They also don't let things like pesky little elections to get in their way either. How many people do you know who were even willing quit their jobs, or get fired, rather than take an unproven vaccine? .0000001, maybe?
That's about how many Americans have the intestinal fortitude to oust communists in 2023.
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Re: Number One cause for
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Aug 28, 2023, 2:12 PM
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Quite correct. Too many people in this country serve the god of convenience. No way they will lose their high paying jobs to do what is right.
'The tree of liberty must from time to time be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
I think the tree is very thirsty.
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You are quite correct - if anything, just give the tyrants
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an inch
of lead.
The pathetic post sixties’ liberals and leftists are the most maliciously brainwashed group of humans ever assembled. They’re not even really “Americans “.
By the by - never been vaxx’d, never will, and never will my children. Never owned a gun, but the tyrants have made it such that it is about time. #FJB
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Re: You are quite correct - if anything, just give the tyrants
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Agreed, except I am own 6 large gun safes full of guns. All legal.
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Re: You are quite correct - if anything, just give the tyrants
Aug 30, 2023, 8:48 PM
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I'm in my 6th month of 9, waiting for ATFE to approve my second gun that shoots ... uh ... very fast, shall we say.
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Re: You are quite correct - if anything, just give the tyrants
Aug 30, 2023, 9:25 PM
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ATF slow walks the tax stamps intentionally.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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The number one cause actually is too many freaking people. We are on our way to 10 billion. That means more cars, more planes, more plants needed to produce consumer goods, more people throwing trash on the side of the roads, more trees cut down (that shade and cool the earth) to make more room for houses and more asphalt parking lots. Any fool knows to reduce global warming you have to reduce the number of people causing it. If you want to lower global warming temps, eliminate about 25% of the earth’s population. Problem solved.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Aug 27, 2023, 10:21 AM
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Bill Gates? Is that you?
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Re: Thanks For The Population Lesson Thanos***
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Aug 27, 2023, 10:37 AM
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Global warming does not exist! Climate change does not exist! Any changes are cyclical! It is not any warmer or colder now than it was 100 years ago or 2 hundred. Yet in my lifetime they have said we were going into an ice age. That didn’t work so they said global warming that didn’t work so they said Climate change. It is all a religion being perpetuated by the elite globalist and a bunch of idiotic left wing whack jobs!!
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Please follow the science and not the "They are trying to control us" rhetoric. Earth's temperature has risen by an average of 0.14° Fahrenheit per decade since 1880, or about 2° F in total. The rate of warming since 1981 is more than twice as fast: 0.32° F per decade. That is a pure and simple fact.
Look at it like a stock price, the trend is upwards and hotter, temperatures might rise and fall in the short term but the trend is upwards. If this was your 401k you would be happy but the heat rising it is bad. I just filmed a documentary in Bangladesh in a village effected by the rising sea levels. We you have to leave your home because of it you realise it exists.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Aug 27, 2023, 11:46 AM
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You mean the so called science that uses fake computer models, skewed results and blatant lies to prove the science?
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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I would also like to add, the "impirical" evidence you are citing, which started, by you own admission, in 1880, is just a dab of cosmic dust in an ever expanding universe. If we had ACCURATE AND VERIFIABLE evidence from let's say, the last 1000 years, you may have a case. Diminished by the fact that the earth is several million years old, at least, I would say that those 1000 years are a small sample. That being said, do you not know that we had a mini ice age around the time that this all so important historical data was collected. So the start temperature, the median, the average etc ... Is skewed. Therefore, the findings are flawed and do not represent a true baseline. So, before you lecture me on auto emissions, asphalt parking lots and plastic lead based painted toy factories, let me say this....we are ants on this beautiful rock and I couldn't give a cow fart what you think I should do to improve your world in which you and your talking head friends fly around in chartered jets lecturing us on how to minimize our carbon footprint. In short, take a large leap off a concrete and steel barnacle covered bridge into the crap and trash infested San Francisco bay.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Please follow the science and not the "They are trying to control us" rhetoric. Earth's temperature has risen by an average of 0.14° Fahrenheit per decade since 1880, or about 2° F in total. The rate of warming since 1981 is more than twice as fast: 0.32° F per decade. That is a pure and simple fact.
Look at it like a stock price, the trend is upwards and hotter, temperatures might rise and fall in the short term but the trend is upwards. If this was your 401k you would be happy but the heat rising it is bad. I just filmed a documentary in Bangladesh in a village effected by the rising sea levels. We you have to leave your home because of it you realise it exists.
Throughout history, people have been displaced by changing water levels. The science you follow is based on funding so follow the money to get the true answer
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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LtColClemson is correct. But you climate deniers dont have to worry, we'll pay for your mess and pick up after you.
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Re: Number One cause for
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Following the same science, we can draw a similar conclusion about the warming and cooling of the earth's temperature since the beginning of time. Before civilization existed, the earth warmed and cooled.
Pretending that you know the root causes because your can read a thermometer makes about as much sense as claiming that you can control the power of the sun by putting on sunblock.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Sums it up. It's the exact reason. It will only get worse too. There is no fixing the prob. Just adapting.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
Aug 27, 2023, 11:55 AM
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Maybe you should help the cause out by offering your family and all of your relatives up to ease the problem. The absurdity of my statement is only replaced by how absurd yours is.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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According to a lot of very smart people (like Elon Musk, Jordan Peterson, Vivek Ramaswamy and many more) we are in serious danger of population decline. In fact they say it's reaching a crisis.
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Ok. You step off this train 1st. Then we get all your
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Leftist pals, and all their Leftist pals to get off this train...pretty quickly we should get to that 25%.
Bye.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
Aug 30, 2023, 8:07 AM
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I think you need to brush up on current demographic trends… this is certainly not the case. Most countries are on the verge to moderate to severe population decline. Over the next 10-50 years we will see a significant reduction in populations. As for the CO2.. no actual scientist will argue that CO2 causes temp increases- there may be correlation but not proof of causation. Increased CO2 does however have one absolute beneficiary… plants. As long as CO2 continues to rise, plants will become more efficient and grow faster. In terms of earth history, we are still at on the low end of CO2 at around 400ppm. Most plants do best in 1200 to 2000ppm (just ask any greenhouse farmer).
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Growing up in SC, we never had AC. We had an attic fan which did the job at night
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Actually the #1 cause is natural variation
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I appreciate what you're saying, but...
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Aug 27, 2023, 10:21 AM
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climate change advocates are talking about the global average temperature, not local fluctuations.
As a summer job in high school, I would install HVAC units in houses in South Carolina. Avg attic temps would be around 130°F, and you could only stay up there for about 5min before you had to come down for a break, absolutely pouring sweat. That was almost 25yrs ago, and nothing I've ever felt temp-wise has compared to that.
But it seems foolish to ignore actual data and evidence-based research suggesting a global temp increase -- and the potential impact that could have on water levels and dangerous weather patterns.
http://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature
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Re: I appreciate what you're saying, but...
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I have often wondered why we dont have light colored roofing materials and light covered roads and parking lots more than we have now... not for global warming but to save ac cost and prevent feet burn in summer.
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Or head burn...
Aug 27, 2023, 10:41 AM
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I definitely remember standing up too tall in an attic once with a metal roof and having the top of my head touch against that thing. Oooh boy.
It was like a scene in a looney toons cartoon where someone's looking around saying, "yall smell something cooking?" 😂
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Re: I appreciate what you're saying, but...
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Except that there is not any proof of it. All the proof was either computer generated predictions or scientist flat lying. We have climate change and it’s called winter and spring and summer and fall!
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I mean, maybe read the article that I posted?
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It's filled with legitimate research and maybe the "proof" that you might be seeking.
Also, it's trend data. It's not a matter of saying definitely that something is or isn't. It's about monitoring patterns and trying to protect ourselves no matter which way the data is moving.
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Re: I mean, maybe read the article that I posted?
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It's filled with legitimate research and maybe the "proof" that you might be seeking.
Also, it's trend data. It's not a matter of saying definitely that something is or isn't. It's about monitoring patterns and trying to protect ourselves no matter which way the data is moving.
Legit research? Legit research does not leave out data or finesse data points which point to a different conclusion or stifle different conclusions. True science has always been open to debate (theory of relativity has been attacked from day one) but with global warming the science is somehow settled which is a first
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Re: I mean, maybe read the article that I posted?
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It's filled with legitimate research and maybe the "proof" that you might be seeking.
Also, it's trend data. It's not a matter of saying definitely that something is or isn't. It's about monitoring patterns and trying to protect ourselves no matter which way the data is moving.
Legit research? Legit research does not leave out data or finesse data points which point to a different conclusion or stifle different conclusions. True science has always been open to debate (theory of relativity has been attacked from day one) but with global warming the science is somehow settled which is a first
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There’s a lot of proof of it…
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And you don’t even have to do ‘research’ you just have to look at a long-term record of temperature or sea-level.
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Shoveling cotton seed out of a cotton seed house down into
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open topped trailers on one of those near 100 degree days is the hottest I have even been in South Carolina.
My all time personal worst day temperature wise was 126 degrees in Phoenix, Arizona in Desert Valley Auto Parts junkyard. This was the same yard that was featured on the TV series Desert Car Kings.
I was in the yard for about 30 minutes, left wife and 2 year old son in our brand new (two week old) 1994 Suburban, with the engine running and the A/C on, since their office had no waiting area that was air conditioned.
When I returned to the vehicle, the temp gauge was at TWO THIRTY FIVE, and the solution was boiling out of the windshield washer nozzles onto the windshield. Thank God for brand new belts and hoses, and how the engine was not ruined was a major miracle. (As soon as I got the engine off idle, it cooled right down to normal.)
Anyone who says "It's a dry heat" can kiss my big obese hiney parts. 126 degrees is hot enough to make you pant for air, dry, wet, or otherwise. Been there, done that.
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Re: I appreciate what you're saying, but...
Aug 28, 2023, 6:40 PM
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I find it very humorous that real estate values haven't taking a nose dive in Hilton Head and other ocean front locations due to these "rising seas" warnings. Wonder why that is???
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It’s not climate change now? How about
Aug 27, 2023, 10:45 AM
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the mysterious depletion of the ozone layer. Hottest I’ve ever been in Death Valley was the 13-3 Clemson win over UGA that propelled us to the NC.
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Re: It’s not climate change now? How about
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It's really not a mystery at all. CFCs were depleting the ozone layer so they were banned and now it's not a problem anymore.
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Re: It’s not climate change now? How about
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When CFC was banned in the late eighties the world was saved. Yet the level of CFC in the atmosphere continued to rise well into the nineties and beyond. Mysteriously the Ozone Layer began to recover in the early nineties. So lets talk about the "science" factor here. It took a hundred years of CFC abuse to destroy the Ozone Layer, but within several years of the ban the Ozone Layer magically healed itself. Go figure. Exit Ozone enter global warming the next cause.
So the junk "science" that was preached by Al Gore and swallowed hook line and sinker by the likes of you is once again proved to be wrong.
Two entities profited greatly from the CFC ban, Al Gore and Dupont. Did you ever stop to think that every time a refrigerant is banned, there is always a new one waiting in the wings at a much greater price than the old one.
BTW, there never was an Ozone problem to begin with. The Ozone level today is statistically no greater now than it was in the eighties. Ozone holes have always opened over both poles and will continue to do so until the end of time.
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Half just believe what their TV tells them TO
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Re: Half just believe what their TV tells them TO
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You seem like you go with the internet, your gut, and an imaginary man in the sky.
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Do you same the same about the MAGA cult and Fox News
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Millions of people have bought the kool-aid from a snake oil salesman and the propaganda channel know as Fox "News".
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Ummm no.
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We are in an overall warming phase that started at the end of the 19th century. There have been periods of multi decade oscillations of ENSO resulting in cold periods like the 60s through the 80s.
We will likely see a relatively warm phase for another decade before a colder ENSO takes hold. Do not be led astray. The earth has been much warmer and much colder than it is now.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Aug 27, 2023, 11:29 AM
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Yep! Global warming is the biggest hoax that has ever been pulled. Green is the new red.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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It would be nice if the people who think they know better than 99% of climatologists stated their credentials before stating their opinions.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
Aug 27, 2023, 12:07 PM
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Are you a climatologist?
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You aren't very Woke
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Aug 27, 2023, 11:45 AM
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the current term is climate change since "global warming" took a pause in the mid 1990s. Up until then the satellite temp. data was the greatest "indicator" of global warming. When that data started to show no longer "warming" the term was changed to climate change. The "climate changers" pick and choose the data they use and all their fear mongering is based on computer simulations.
If you have ever done a computer simulation the first time you realize you can't have all the knowledge about all the variables so you have to make assumptions about many of the 'possible" variables, and obviously the assumptions made will mean different results if the assumptions are not correct. I have done a few simulations with only up to 5 variables changing and assumed all the other factors were constant. With something with as many variables as the climate the number of factors that must be assumed as constant are a very large number. The second time you do a simulation the first thing you do is find out what the desired result is, because you will keep doing simulations until you get one that gives you the desired result.
How many of their deadlines have already past? If you want a contrarian view visit climatedepot.com
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Re: You aren't very Woke
Aug 27, 2023, 12:06 PM
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Sorta like in the 70s when we were headed into the new ice age. The pointed heads were devising ways to place mirrors in orbit to reflect more sun light and placing charcoal and other items on the two poles to warm them up.
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Re: You aren't very Woke
Aug 27, 2023, 12:20 PM
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When that data started to show no longer "warming" the term was changed to climate change.
Global warming is still happening, regardless of what people want to call it. The last 8 years are the 8 hottest years in recorded history. Polar ice levels are pretty much at all-time lows. Sea levels are indeed slowly rising. The oceans are also warming and acidifying, killing off sea life en masse in some places.
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Re: You aren't very Woke
Aug 27, 2023, 12:30 PM
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They are dumb. Just let it go. Let them pray about it. Thoughts and prayers. Truth is, maybe it is worthless to try and contain things. The rest of the world isn't on the same page. I am not sold we should even try. Man is a factor and it is a problem. That part is fact, but it might be out of our control at this stage though. No way the world will unite. The transition would destroy millions of people.
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Re: You aren't very Woke
Aug 30, 2023, 8:31 PM
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There is only about 200 years of real data to go off of so 8 years in a span of thousands or billions in which ever you believe is not much to go off of.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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This whole thread is a great example of how data can be manipulated to support any point or position. I don’t know who is right or wrong in this argument, but I do know a lot of predictions on the subject have not come to fruition and they certainly look and sound like fear mongering scare tactics - more and more so as more of the predictions fail to happen….
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Re: The link says Greenville's high temp was December 31, 1983
Aug 28, 2023, 7:02 AM
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Summer of '86 in Greenville we had a string of three or four days over a hundred degrees.
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Follow the money on global warming
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China benefits from the lie
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Re: Follow the money on global warming
Aug 27, 2023, 9:09 PM
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is your world really that simple?
good luck.
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which media?
Aug 28, 2023, 6:15 PM
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The ones you don't agree with or all?
There are legitimate research studies if you really want to know.
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Re: which media?
Aug 28, 2023, 8:13 PM
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I'm not a fan of any of the media, they all have their issues.
We'll see which studies turn out to be correct. 40 years ago we were supposedly entering an ice age.
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All I am saying is that there is a lot of research done by..
Aug 29, 2023, 6:31 AM
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..some really smart people and it's out there.
If you wanted to leave the politics and media of it aside and research it yourself, you could.
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The #1 cause is more energy in the atmosphere
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And that’s in the form of heat.
More energy means more motion, more variation, wilder swings in temperatures in places that used to not experience such swings.
I wonder if that plant maps database includes 2023 data, a year in which records were set all across the country.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/08/22/record-breaking-summer-denver-dallas-wichita-break-daily-high-temperature-records-after-hottest-july-ever/
The link above includes us in Florida too…from Pensacola to Tallahassee to Jacksonville and more.
The wilder swings also means a place could set its record low too…and people point at that as a means to try to discredit the arguments.
A one-day record isn’t much of a concern…a one-month record…that’s a problem. Homeless populations can’t deal with that, electrical grids and utilities, that’s a problem cities and counties continue to struggle with.
Oh and there’s sea-level rise coming along with that too.
You can argue the causes of it, they all play a part, natural and man-made. Doesn’t really matter…the engineers have to deal with it.
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Re: The #1 cause is more energy in the atmosphere
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“ the engineers have to deal with it.”
That is the worst idea yet. Just look at what the engineers did with the canals in the Everglades in South Florida. They ruined the Everglades and Lake Okeechobee. Some day we will learn to let nature take its course.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Aug 27, 2023, 7:28 PM
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I've always held fast to the fact the Sun is 1.5 degrees warmer -- some climate experts dismiss my hypothesis.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
Aug 27, 2023, 9:07 PM
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Some folks seem to propose that since climate change is not caused by humans then we're off the hook. They say the planet is warming due to natural changes and we shouldn't blame humans.
I'm happy to not blame humans. Blame game doesnt help. But if the planet is warming naturally, that doesn't change the need to reduce the warming.
The state of Florida will be interesting to watch over the next 20 years. Note I'm not saying the next 40 years. The market for homeowners insurance is a mess in FL. If FL was my primary residence, ok I woudl likely stay, just not close to the coast. But I would never have a second home in FL.
But that's just me cuz I had the rental agency come board up our beachfront rental in the panhandle the night before mandatory evacuation. The next morning I dropped the keys in the rental agency drop box and left town. No sweat for me. Big problem for the homeowner. It was more than two years before that house was inhabitable again.
Dont tell me FL has always had hurricanees. Yes, they have, but the beach is getting smaller and houses are gradually getting gobbled up by the surf. Similar situation on parts of NC coast. I'm not a climate alarmist. I'm just a dude that goes to the beach and rents instead of buys. LMAO at the folks that buy beachfront. I see it every time we go down there. Smaller beach every time. More houses abandoned. But thats ok, us "climate alarmists" will keep payimg federal taxes that will compenste the climate deniers when their house falls into the ocean and they can't rebuild so they file a hefty insurance claim. You're welcome.
More financial darwinism. LMFAO.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Aug 28, 2023, 7:30 AM
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Has it ever occurred to you that when one builds a structure on a spit of sand four or five feet above sea level, that they are playing the game of Russian Roulette. So the answer to the above is take away my gas stove, rip down my ceiling fan, tear out my hot water heater, stop me from driving fuel powered vehicles and on and on it goes.
The real answer is the fool who built his house twenty five feet from the ocean.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
Aug 30, 2023, 8:42 AM
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You know that you can actually find shells, shark teeth, and ancient oyster shells as far inland as the Congaree? Recency bias is real and the reality is that geologic time and history is difficult for most people to understand. Trying to use 200 years worth of data to convince people of impending Armageddon of a 4.5 billion year old earth seems like a stretch.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
Aug 27, 2023, 9:10 PM
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bizarro world dinosaurs calling and want their planet back
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
Aug 28, 2023, 12:41 PM
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The number one cause for global warming is a keyboard.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
Aug 28, 2023, 2:17 PM
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Almost the exact words I told the better half and others. Also, everyone wants to turn AC too cold. Set it on 78 to 80 and use the ceiling fans. That is until Brandon makes them unaffordable.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Aug 28, 2023, 4:51 PM
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The earth has an expiration date. Only God knows when that is. People want to play God and control the environment. Why would God place billions of barrels of oil under the earth and give man the ability to use it as fuel if He didn't want us to use it? Yes we are supposed to use common sense and take care of the earth. You can't force things to happen before it's time. When God wants the world to be all electric or some other fuel it will happen.
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What does this have to do with beating Duke?
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Aug 28, 2023, 6:06 PM
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Science does not make sense to everyone, ...it's OK
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I was going to guess…the Sun.
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Aug 28, 2023, 6:19 PM
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It would be super cold without that thing.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
Aug 28, 2023, 6:48 PM
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I think the number one cause is conference reorganization and all the hot air that brings with it.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
Aug 28, 2023, 6:52 PM
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I was thinking the same thing about THE VIEW.
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You may think I’m lying but..
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BRAKE DUST is roughly 20% of the air pollution they speak of. WAYYYY more than exhaust. Sounds crazy but it’s true. You can make all the electrical vehicles you want, but they gotta have brakes.
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You may think I’m lying but..
Aug 28, 2023, 6:52 PM
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BRAKE DUST is roughly 20% of the air pollution they speak of. WAYYYY more than exhaust. Sounds crazy but it’s true. You can make all the electrical vehicles you want, but they gotta have brakes.
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Re: You may think I’m lying but..
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Imagine how much methane comes out of Whoopie's butt after a bowl full of chitterlings
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Funny post! Upvoted.
However a serious response to number one cause for "Global Warming" or recent climate change may be mostly influenced, in part, by changes occurring in the Earth's core, specifically the changes in the structure and phase of nickel-iron that releases latent heat. This perspective challenges the prevailing view that human activity is the sole driver of climate change.
Supporting evidence for this theory includes several anomalies that are not adequately explained by current models. For example, there has been a pause in CO2 rise during northern hemisphere winters, record CO2 decreases during economic shutdowns in 2020, and faster ocean warming than models predict, especially at abyssal depths. It is argued that these anomalies, along with others like consistent global patterns of heat migration, changes in Earth's rotation and magnetic field, disproportionate polar warming, and mismatches between CO2 and temperatures, are better explained by this perspective. (This explanation was recently reinforced for me while visiting NASM this weekend and discussing why certain planets are so hot and cold.)
The Earth's core undergoing exothermic change could release heat to the asthenosphere, which in turn could increase deep ocean currents, raise sea levels, melt ice, release methane, and ultimately warm the atmosphere. This explains the climate observations that current models fail to account for.
Changes in the Earth's core may release significant heat that impacts climate change through deep ocean current temps, challenging the widely accepted view that human activity is the sole driver of climate change. This perspective explains climate anomalies better than current models and that it necessitates considering an additional cause of warming beside human activity. Ignoring this perspective without proper investigation would be willful ignorance, IMHO.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
Aug 28, 2023, 10:18 PM
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Got 2 words for ya Tiger...hunga tonga... one more for the TU, Thanks
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True story from our beloved SC.
As a kid I would play on my grandfathers farm just outside of Lake City. Our favorite thing to do was climb to the top of the hills beside the irrigation pond and dig for sharks teeth. This farm was west of Lake City and I’m guessing 50+\- miles from myrtle beach. I believe the altitude there is about 60 feet above sea level.
There is a strip of Sandhills stretching from Augusta Ga through Columbia SC to Fayetteville NC. This used to be Myrtle Beach for 300 of the last 500 million years. I believe Columbia is 200 feet above sea level. That would put Lake City under 140 feet of sea water for 300 of the last 500 million years. Easily explaining the sharks teeth we used to collect.
During that 300 million years there were no polar ice caps and the average global temperature was about 20-30 degrees higher than today.
So please spare me your drama about 2 degrees of increase in temps and one foot sea rise. Those statements are born from the statistically insignificant 100 years of “records” you claim.
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I wonder if horse face farts....HEEHAWHEEHAW
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
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Amazing the mileage a topic like this can get. Sorry, but I'm adding to it. Whenever approached about climate change what seems to be missing is perspective.
Generational Perspective: You'll have to be patient with those of us considered "Boomers". Anyone over the age of 50 has been hearing global warming and climate change since the 70's. When I was at Clemson back in the dark ages, we were hearing that cities such as Charleston, Boston, etc. would be underwater by the year 2000. The data changes, the bar changes, the definitions change and it goes on and on. So forgive us if we raise a skeptical eye.
Science perspective: Early in this thread some very "hard" data and eyewitness accounts have been presented. Can't argue with the data. Also, the phrase 'short term" was used. On a planet that is roughly 4 billion years old, define "short term". It has been widely accepted that the weather has consistently been measured since the 1880's. What happened in 1879? The point being, we have been collecting weather data for less that 150 years. The whole thing is short term (in perspective). The phrase "you can't argue with science" has been tossed around a lot these days. I contend that science is one of those things that MUST be argued. Anyone can publish a paper and cite all the data that can be collected to support a theory. Once published, the theory remains just that until it can be disproven. But in todays world, to argue a theory is heresy. You win when the argument is shut down. The published theory becomes the gospel as long as it follows the agenda. Which beings me too...
Agenda perspective: Unfortunately in today's socio-political climate (pun intended) climate change is an issue that gets it's fair share of overlapping agendas. Anti-capitalist use it, Anti-western civilization-ist use it, It makes its way into the politics of race and gender. It's a foreign policy issue, International trade issue and it goes on. All under the guise of protecting the environment. Look at the news, the Burning Man festival is being held up by a so-called environmentalist group that also happens to be a largely anti-capitalism group. What does gluing yourself to a master work of art do to resolve the use of oil? What does running out onto a golf tournament creating chaos have to do with the use of oil? Other than to create chaos? Sadly, the face of some very serious concerns has become the nutjobs.
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Re: Number One cause for "Global Warming"?
Aug 29, 2023, 9:22 PM
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HEAT
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