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The impact of not having Sammy Watkins.
May 6, 2012, 2:40 PM
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Last year's NC State game has been used as an example of what happens to Clemson's offense when Sammy is out. But I would contend that the bigger player (literally and figuratively) missing that night was Phillip Price.
Our biggest problem on offense was getting trashed on the line. Tajh was being constantly harassed and our WR corps was made obsolete by this.
Our WR corps is a strength even without Sammy Watkins. I do not see his loss as a death blow to our chances against Auburn. I may be a optimistic nutjob, but I still expect our WR's to be successful. I am more worried about our offensive line and our defense than I am about missing Sammy.
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Sammy wasn't on the defense.***
May 6, 2012, 2:46 PM
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If I remember correctly our offense was at least as much to
May 6, 2012, 2:48 PM
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blame for the loss that night. We handed them perfect field position over and over and over again.
But yeah, Sammy wasn't on defense.
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Oculus Spirit [94275]
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You do, and it was.
May 6, 2012, 3:36 PM
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Our primary problem last year was the youth of our team. 42 red shirts and true freshmen brought the team's average age down to 19-20 yrs old. The new offensive scheme made it harder on the mature players too. It was a growing process for all the players one way or another. This year we should make a much better showing. I hope we can win the conference and the state championship and Death Valley can be the difference in the latter.
This year we face a different change. I understand the defensive scheme is not so much dependent on complicated reads by the linebackers. I'm expecting the transition to be much easier to the new system for the D.
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Not having Sammy did make a difference, but you're
May 6, 2012, 3:04 PM
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right when you say Phillip Price was the real difference. We sucked without Phillip.
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Re: Not having Sammy did make a difference, but you're
May 6, 2012, 3:18 PM
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HOPPER MAYBE ABLE TO COME IN AND HELP OUT IN SAMMY'S ABSENCE.
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Maybe. I'm actually quite confident in Adam. He avoided
May 6, 2012, 3:35 PM
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a red shirt to play back up to Sammy. Had Sammy not been here, he might have started. The kid has game.
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Re: Maybe. I'm actually quite confident in Adam. He avoided
May 6, 2012, 4:57 PM
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Adam is probably one of the more under appreciated players by some of the fans
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Re: Maybe. I'm actually quite confident in Adam. He avoided
May 6, 2012, 5:37 PM
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I see Adam as an in traffic sure handed receiver. I think he will be our short yardage receiver. AKA money over the middle!!!
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Re: Not having Sammy did make a difference, but you're
May 6, 2012, 5:30 PM
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Sammy isn't going to be out for any game. The rule states that for a first offense possession of Marijuana. Being that the pills were found at the same time. I would think it all runs together. 30 hours of COMMUNITY service, and a tongue beating every day by Dabo and Chad Morris. And team mates picking at him at every chance they get....
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Oculus Spirit [83199]
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Not having Boyd would be the most negative impact. Sammy is
May 6, 2012, 3:22 PM
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2nd.
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Re: The impact of not having Sammy Watkins.
May 6, 2012, 3:22 PM
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Bryant,peake,and humphries will help the loss of sammy
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dont forget
May 6, 2012, 3:27 PM
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the impact he makes on special teams
sammy brings to our special teams what cj brought a few years back..
great field position and a fear to kick us the ball
anytime you are without your best player it is a huge deal especially when we open with a team like auburn instead of someone like furman
and as good as our receivers are none of them can run the jet sweep as effectively as sammy with his speed which opens up our offense so much
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Re: dont forget
May 6, 2012, 3:45 PM
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I am not so worried about our offensive skill players. Chad will have plenty of time to work with them and have them ready, if Sammy is out. Our o-line is the concern, and EVERYONE knows this, especially Auburn. The idea is going to be the "Pistol" formation and whether it will be able to truly help us. If the o-line is going to be a major problem, the biggest chance we will have is misdirection and Tahj being on target with a short game.
And our d-line. Hopefully the linebackers will be up to shutting down the line.
Not too much to worry about, right?
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Re: dont forget
May 6, 2012, 4:54 PM
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Maybe they could use Bryant more in the jet sweep seeing as how he is the second fastest player behind Sammy not to mention a big target to take down.
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Re: dont forget
May 6, 2012, 5:39 PM
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Use Bellamy in the Jet sweep.
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The fact is "if the punt return team is a part of special
May 6, 2012, 5:52 PM
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teams" all we did was fair catch the vast majority of punts all last season.
I'll assume you are referring to the kickoff team.
We certainly aren't a better team without Sammy.
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NUKE
May 6, 2012, 4:52 PM
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amazing to me how folks so underestimate our receiving corps...and our rb's......one player does not make a team....and one player should not make our team....
in the past when they have....and we did.....team struggled.......
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Re: NUKE
May 6, 2012, 5:04 PM
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I agree, I'm not really concerned with Sammy's absence. Having Sammy on board is a definte bonus, but his absence will not cripple our offense. There are far too many weapons at WR for this to be a concern. The more than capable Humphries will fill Sammy's shoes. Nuk will be a consistent target this season and Jaron will continue to get better. Both Peake and Bryant could make a big statement in the Auburn game since Tajh will be forced to look for other recievers rather than trying to force the ball to Sammy. Nuk will do just fine on speacial teams returning kicks as well. I'd be curious to see what he can do with a little extra muscle.
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Re: The impact of not having Sammy Watkins.
May 6, 2012, 5:15 PM
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And you could be spot on.
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I think that a larger issue i havent seen posted yet...
May 6, 2012, 5:39 PM
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Was that Sammy took pressure off of other WR's by drawing double coverage some of the time. Even if Sammy didn't catch a pass in a game, his presence alone would have an impact on how the DB's covered.
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Re: I think that a larger issue i havent seen posted yet...
May 6, 2012, 5:43 PM
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this is absolutely true and a huge part of how we played..we have lots of other very good receivers but Sammy made the game different
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Agreed. Watkins is probably our single "best" player, and
May 6, 2012, 5:44 PM
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any team that loses it's best player is gonna feel it. However, not many teams can lose their best player and still be one of the strongest teams in the country at that position.
If we lose Sammy, we lose one of the most dynamic players in the country - a true game-changer. We will definitely miss him and it will impact us adversely, but we still have one of the best group of receivers in the country without him.
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Re: The impact of not having Sammy Watkins.
May 6, 2012, 7:00 PM
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Agree with this assessment. Plus our WR corp is going to know the situation all of fall camp, it could help motivate the others including the special teams play. The bigger issue will be o-line play improving so we can run and throw the ball.
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He is an all American
May 6, 2012, 8:01 PM
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Hard to replace
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Re: The impact of not having Sammy Watkins.
May 6, 2012, 9:12 PM
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Obviously having sammy is always a plus. However, if their is one position where yall can afford to miss someone its wr. Nuke is excellent and would get much more recognition if sammy were not so good. Plenty of talent behind them too. His absence may affect the game somewhat but not to the point that it will lose the game. If AU wins it will be because they beat yall somewhere else on the field. It wont be because their secondary shuts yalls receivers down.
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Re: The impact of not having Sammy Watkins.
May 6, 2012, 9:53 PM
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I feel so much better having Coach Spurrier come on our board and speak.....
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Re: The impact of not having Sammy Watkins.
May 7, 2012, 12:20 AM
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You can say what you want!Losing Sammy will make a big diffrence.It give the D coordinator 1 huge player not to defend,most of the the time with a doubleteam.Having Sammy makes them decide on the the lesser of two poisons,DT him or let Nuc or the or the rest of our recievers have a possible mismatch.To say we will not miss him is ludicris.He does so much more than the fans know about.I do agree that PPrice was a MAJOR blow to our O last year though.Basically, WE NEED SAMMY!
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I'd trade Sammy...
May 7, 2012, 10:14 AM
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..for an O-line that gives Boyd enough time to throw any day of the week.
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I think
May 7, 2012, 9:06 AM
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that the receiving corps can be, and most likely still will be the strongest component on Clemsons team. Even with out Watkins. Most are looking at Nuke and Watkins, but who is underrated is Tae Bryant.
And Phillip P. was the missing puzzle piece for Clemsons offense last year when
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I think
May 7, 2012, 9:08 AM
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that the receiving corps can be, and most likely still will be the strongest component on Clemsons team. Even with out Watkins. Most are looking at Nuke and Watkins, but who is underrated is Tae Bryant.
And Phillip P. was the missing puzzle piece for Clemsons offense last year when It lost a few steps. Depth was shallow, so once he was hurt, the starting left guard was slid over making in essence two backups on the left side of the OLine. CM offense requires development, not just shoot ya straight plays.
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Not worried
May 7, 2012, 10:00 AM
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Had a dream last night that we stomped Auburn 50+ to around 20 even without Sammy. Nuk went crazy and Tajh was playing like a pro, and trucking people when he ran the ball.
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Re: The impact of not having Sammy Watkins.
May 7, 2012, 12:42 PM
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It always comes down to the line.
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Re: The impact of not having Sammy Watkins.
May 7, 2012, 12:49 PM
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I agree, I never liked that comparison. A road game without Price and against a team that in the preseason was projected to finish 2nd in the Atlantic. I think they won 5 of their last 6. Price was a big factor in the late season swoon.
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How about...
May 7, 2012, 2:16 PM
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We take sammy's touches and hand them off the ellington...Hope he has a killer season. Hope he is fully healthy and ready to go...Hope we see a run like he did in GT/Clem game in two years ago on the first hand off...or like Bellamy's run against Troy...
Spot the ball!!!!!!!!
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The biggest impact will be the attitude of the...
May 7, 2012, 2:23 PM
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rest of the team. If they believe we can win without Sammy I think we'll do well. These guys are pretty young still, so that could be a problem.
Last year Dabo struggled to keep them focused.
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Loss to GT was devastating
May 7, 2012, 2:27 PM
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You could see it on the faces of the players during and after the game. They looked crushed. They said that they didn't let being 8-0 go to their heads but as normal people it is almost impossible to not listen to the hype, at least a little, especially with such a young team. Hopefully they can rely on one another to keep themslevs up during the tough times that will come during every season.
Auburn, MD, FSU showed that we can take some adversity and stil fight but the debacles at NC ST and SC and WVU show that we still have a ways to go.
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Well said.
May 7, 2012, 3:44 PM
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The lows seemed worse than the highs last season. How the devil does a team stomp a greasy spot out of VT then furnish butt like we did to WV?
It has to be between the ears.
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Three of those losses can be put on Steele
May 7, 2012, 3:52 PM
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GT, SC, WVU. Steele hasn't been able to stop the option since he got here. SC has known since 09 that a running QB or wildcat would beat us. WVU was a complete and utter breakdown on a defensive level that I have not seen in my life. You could see that Tajh and our O had NO faith in the D being able to stop WVu and thus they panicked and tried to press the issue, which is how the 3-3-5 beats you in the first place.
NC ST was a complete breakdown as a team and that falls on everyone, especially Dabo.
We have a young coach and a very young team and all will have to grow and learn together. Problem is that there are so many impatient fans that will be staisfied by nothing less then a NC.
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Can't replace that type of talent.
May 7, 2012, 6:41 PM
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What if we don't need to. With blocking, we have more than
May 9, 2012, 7:33 PM
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enough talent to beat Auburn on offense.
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If walk-on 1-yr starter Price was key to 2011, no wonder we
May 7, 2012, 9:43 PM
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had problems with blocking and inconsistency last year. Loved Price's toughness and relentless effort, but his talent level was not all-ACC caliber. We need talented all-conf players to beat SC and finish Top 10.
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Talent level < blocking people***
May 9, 2012, 7:32 PM
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